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Horse profile

Who Not What (GB)

3yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2023) · Last trainer A Oliver · Last owner J P Ledwidge
by Camacho (GB) out of Bahamian Bird (GB) (Bahamian Bounty)
11 runs · 5 courses · from Jun 2022
As at 6 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 8 Sep 2023 — 1,154 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2023 · 8th of 13 Last raced off OR 69
KTB Profile

Who Not What is a maiden who ran 11 times on turf between Jun 2022 and Sep 2023 without winning. He placed once, his best effort coming when second of 17 at Leopardstown in Jun 2023. The gelding, by Camacho out of a Bahamian Bounty mare, raced off an official rating of 69 at Down Royal in Sep 2023 when he finished eighth of 13 in a handicap, 9lb below his highest ever mark.

Based on 11 archived runs · updated 6 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 9lb off peak
Official rating69↓ 9lb off peak
69 69–78

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 92 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Cork, 5 May 2023

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 11 figures · best 116C · median 83
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Good5116C83—
Heavy392A67—
Soft1———
Good to Soft1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
6f – 7f687A76—
1m2f – 1m4f386C84—
1m – 1m1f2116C104—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 11 figures from 11 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 74A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Leopardstown, 17 Aug 2023 Official rating 69 at the last run, 8 Sep 2023

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 11 figures · best 83A · median 65
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Good583A74—
Heavy364A63—
Soft1———
Good to Soft1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
6f – 7f683A68.5—
1m2f – 1m4f372A65—
1m – 1m1f280A69.5—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 11 figures from 11 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 8.1% of 9,325 runs since Mar 2009 (596 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm5323.8%−4.3—
Good to Firm1,5741338.4%+0.30 from 1
Good1,9521507.7%−0.40 from 5
Good to Soft913748.1%00 from 1
Soft1,102948.5%+0.40 from 1
Heavy356267.3%−0.80 from 3
Standard (AW)3,3752808.3%+0.2—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f2,2792229.7%+1.6—
6f – 7f4,2503568.4%+0.30 from 6
1m – 1m1f1,578996.3%−1.80 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f700446.3%−1.80 from 3
1m5f – 2m370236.2%−1.9—
2m1f – 2m4f11797.7%−0.4—
2m5f – 3m27518.5%+10.4—
Over 3m4125%+16.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Mar 2009 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Bahamian Bird (GB) (Bahamian Bounty)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

Family form: Sergei Breeze (GB) finished 3rd of 12 at Bath, 29 Oct 2026.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Sergei Breeze (GB)60——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 5 0 0% −5.00
Heavy 3 0 0% −3.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Leopardstown 6 0 0% −6.00
Cork 2 0 0% −2.00
Down Royal 1 0 0% −1.00
Curragh 1 0 0% −1.00
Roscommon 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 6 0 0% −6.00
1m2f – 1m4f 3 0 0% −3.00
1m – 1m1f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Dylan Browne McMonagle 2 0 0% −2.00
Ronan Whelan 2 0 0% −2.00
Jamie Powell 1 0 0% −1.00
Scott McCullagh 1 0 0% −1.00
Wayne Lordan 1 0 0% −1.00
Robert Whearty 1 0 0% −1.00
Gary Carroll 1 0 0% −1.00
Ben Coen 1 0 0% −1.00
W J Lee 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 7 0 0% −7.00
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 3 0 0% −3.00
Tongue tie 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2023 8 0 0% −8.00
2022 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2023 · 8 runs
08 Sep 23+15d Down Royal Children's Heartbeat Trust Handicap (50-70) 1m2½f · Good · 13 ran 8/13 1¼ 9-11 6986C65A Dylan Browne McMonagle 14/1
24 Aug 23+7d Leopardstown Whistlin' Donkeys Playing Live After Racing Handicap 7f · Good · 16 ran 13/16 ½ 9-7 7379C60A Jamie Powell 7/1
17 Aug 23+28d Leopardstown Unio Employee Benefits Handicap 7f · Good · 15 ran 5/15 1¼ 9-7 7383C74A Dylan Browne McMonagle 8/1
20 Jul 23+42d Leopardstown Ryan's Cleaning Apprentice Handicap 7f · Yielding To Soft · 10 ran 5/10 ¾ 9-5 7387A72A Scott McCullagh 9/1
08 Jun 23+34d Leopardstown Skippio Express Collection Handicap (50-80) 1m · Good · 17 ran 2/17 nk 8-12 72116C80A Wayne Lordan 16/1
05 May 23+14d Cork Racing Again Tomorrow Apprentice Handicap 1m · Soft To Heavy · 11 ran 8/11 ¾ 8-8 7592A59A Robert Whearty 16/1
21 Apr 23+19d Cork GAIN The Advantage Series Handicap 1m2f · Good To Yielding · 13 ran 7/13 2½ 10-0 7784C72A Gary Carroll 16/1
02 Apr 23+239d Leopardstown Porsche Centre Dublin In Support Of Breast Cancer Ireland Handicap 1m2f · Heavy · 12 ran 9/12 1¼ 9-0 7867C63C Ben Coen 50/1
2022 · 3 runs
06 Aug 22+39d Curragh John Ormonde Wexford Sand Irish EBF Maiden 7f · Good · 11 ran 4/11 2¾ 9-7 —73A83A W J Lee 40/1
28 Jun 22+12d Roscommon Irish EBF Auction Series Maiden 7½f · Soft To Heavy · 9 ran 5/9 nk 9-1 —64A64A Ronan Whelan 8/1
16 Jun 22 Leopardstown Irish EBF Auction Series Race 7f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 4/7 1¾ 9-1 —44A65A Ronan Whelan 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Who Not What won?
Who Not What (GB) has yet to win, from 11 archived starts between 2022 and 2023. Placed 1 time in total (9.1% of starts).
Who trained Who Not What?
Who Not What (GB) was trained by A Oliver on the most recent run on record, at Down Royal on 8 September 2023.
Who is Who Not What's sire?
Who Not What (GB) is by Camacho (GB) out of Bahamian Bird (GB), whose sire is Bahamian Bounty.
What is Who Not What's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 69, from the run on 8 September 2023. The highest on record is 78.
What is Who Not What's sire's record?
Camacho (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.1% of 9,325 runs since Mar 2009 (596 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Who Not What's siblings?
Out of Bahamian Bird (GB), Who Not What (GB) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from June 2022. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.