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Why But Why (USA)

10yo gelding (at last run, Jan 2018) · Last trainer William Young Jnr · Last owner W G Young
by Whywhywhy (USA) out of Miss Orah (GB) (Unfuwain)
42 runs · 21 courses · from Oct 2010
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 2 Jan 2018 — 3,215 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jan 2018 2 wins · Tramore & Fairyhouse Last raced off OR 81
KTB Profile

Why But Why (USA) is 2 from 42. Hasn't won since Aug 2013. Both wins came on good or faster ground (0 from 19 on softer). Last raced off 81, 34lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 42 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Wins on good or faster OR ↓ 34lb off peak
Official rating81↓ 34lb off peak
81 60–115

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 4 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (2) · did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 1 figure from 4 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 83A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Perth, 21 Apr 2016 Official rating 81 at the last jumps run, 2 Jan 2018

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 74A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Limerick, 5 May 2013 Official rating 63 at the last flat run, 5 May 2013

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 25 figures · best 130A · median 97
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Good12130A112.5—
Soft6107A99—
Heavy494C85.5—
Good to Soft295A85.5—
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m18130A98—
2m1f – 2m4f7116A97—
Flat 13 figures · best 81A · median 64
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Good679A69—
Standard (AW)355A54—
Good to Soft281A70.5—
Heavy1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f981A72—
1m – 1m1f256A55.5—
6f – 7f264A59—

Of 42 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (4).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 38 figures from 42 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Whywhywhy (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.4% of 95 runs since Jan 2008 (8 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm200%−7.4—
Good to Firm14214.3%+6.90 from 2
Good30413.3%+5.92 from 18
Good to Soft900%−7.40 from 4
Soft1300%−7.40 from 8
Heavy700%−7.40 from 7
Standard (AW)2015%−2.40 from 3
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f700%−7.4—
6f – 7f29413.8%+6.40 from 2
1m – 1m1f800%−7.40 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f1317.7%+0.31 from 9
1m5f – 2m2827.1%−0.31 from 21
2m1f – 2m4f1000%−7.40 from 8

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Miss Orah (GB) (Unfuwain)

2 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Parc des Princes (USA) (7 wins).

The wins came over 7f–2m3½f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Parc des Princes (USA)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Parc des Princes (USA)5671m3f–2m3½fClass 3
Miss Mousey (IRE)617f—

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 18 2 11% +2.00
Soft 8 0 0% −8.00
Heavy 7 0 0% −7.00
Good to Soft 4 0 0% −4.00
Standard (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 8 0 0% −8.00
Class 5 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 3 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Ayr 5 0 0% −5.00
Musselburgh 5 0 0% −5.00
Killarney 4 0 0% −4.00
Wexford 3 0 0% −3.00
Fairyhouse 3 1 33% +4.00
Dundalk (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Listowel 2 0 0% −2.00
Ballinrobe 2 0 0% −2.00
Leopardstown 2 0 0% −2.00
Punchestown 2 0 0% −2.00
Hexham 1 0 0% −1.00
Carlisle 1 0 0% −1.00
Perth 1 0 0% −1.00
Kilbeggan 1 0 0% −1.00
Tramore 1 1 100% +12.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00
Thurles 1 0 0% −1.00
Roscommon 1 0 0% −1.00
Down Royal 1 0 0% −1.00
Naas 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 21 1 5% −8.00
1m2f – 1m4f 9 1 11% −2.00
2m1f – 2m4f 8 0 0% −8.00
1m – 1m1f 2 0 0% −2.00
6f – 7f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Robbie Power 12 0 0% −12.00
Fran Berry 7 0 0% −7.00
Graham Watters 4 0 0% −4.00
Mr Kit Alexander 4 0 0% −4.00
Thomas Willmott 2 0 0% −2.00
Stephen Mulqueen 2 0 0% −2.00
Mark Bolger 2 1 50% +11.00
Charlie Elliott 2 0 0% −2.00
Shane Foley 2 1 50% +5.00
Dale Irving 1 0 0% −1.00
Paddy Kennedy 1 0 0% −1.00
Barry Geraghty 1 0 0% −1.00
Ronan Whelan 1 0 0% −1.00
Kevin Sexton 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 25 2 8% −5.00
Cheekpieces 13 0 0% −13.00
Blinkers 4 0 0% −4.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2018 1 0 0% −1.00
2017 3 0 0% −3.00
2016 3 0 0% −3.00
2015 4 0 0% −4.00
2014 5 0 0% −5.00
2013 6 1 17% +7.00
2012 7 0 0% −7.00
2011 11 1 9% −4.00
2010 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 17 0 0% −17.00
Flat 13 1 8% −6.00
Chase 12 1 8% +1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
02 Jan 18+11d Ayr Winter Weddings At Western House Hotel Handicap Chase Class 5 · 16.5f · Heavy · 7 ran PU/7 — 10-0 81—— Thomas Willmott 80/1
22 Dec 17+42d Ayr Book Tickets For Racing On 2nd January Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Heavy · 8 ran 8/8 32 9-7 7553C55C Thomas Willmott 100/1
10 Nov 17+22d Hexham Follow Hexham Racecourse On Facebook Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 16f · Soft · 16 ran 14/16 18 10-5 82—67C Dale Irving 80/1
19 Oct 17+546d Carlisle Get Daily Tips At Racinguk.com Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 17f · Soft · 13 ran PU/13 — 10-2 86—— Stephen Mulqueen 200/1
21 Apr 16+65d Perth Mackies Of Scotland Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 16f · Good · 18 ran 16/18 ½ 11-6 95—83A Graham Watters 28/1
16 Feb 16+45d Ayr Dawn Homes Future Developments Handicap Chase Class 4 · 15.5f · Heavy · 11 ran 9/11 35 11-5 108—79C Graham Watters 50/1
02 Jan 16+36d Ayr 32red.com Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Heavy · 8 ran F/8 — 11-7 103—— Graham Watters 33/1
27 Nov 15+290d Musselburgh Semichem Handicap Chase Class 4 · 16f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 9/12 4½ 11-7 113—95A Graham Watters 28/1
10 Feb 15+25d Ayr Steven & Tracy James's Silver Anniversary Today Handicap Chase Class 4 · 16.5f · Soft · 5 ran F/5 — 11-5 113—— Mr Kit Alexander 20/1
16 Jan 15+15d Musselburgh Andrew Maclennan Is 21 Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 15.5f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 8/9 14 10-5 111—76C Mr Kit Alexander 50/1
01 Jan 15+34d Musselburgh totequadpot Scottish Premier Chase (Handicap) Class 3 · 20f · Soft · 9 ran 8/9 26 9-13 115—79C Mr Kit Alexander 12/1
28 Nov 14+22d Musselburgh Bam Construction St Andrews Day Handicap Chase Class 4 · 16f · Good · 10 ran 4/10 2¼ 11-5 115—113A Mr Kit Alexander 20/1
06 Nov 14+47d Musselburgh Bespoke Event Management Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 15.5f · Good · 8 ran 5/8 4½ 10-5 115—78C Stephen Mulqueen 7/1
20 Sep 14+78d Listowel Charlie Chute Memorial Handicap Chase (0-109) 17f · Good · 13 ran 4/13 3 11-12 109—116A Robbie Power 20/1
04 Jul 14+33d Wexford Hook Head Chase 17f · Yielding To Soft · 6 ran 6/6 22 11-8 112—97C Robbie Power 25/1
01 Jun 14+232d Kilbeggan Athlone Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 16f · Good · 14 ran 9/14 2½ 11-7 109—90C Paddy Kennedy 16/1
12 Oct 13+46d Fairyhouse Become A Member Of Fairyhouse 2014 Handicap Hurdle (80-116) 16f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 8/15 1¾ 11-5 109—115A Robbie Power 12/1
27 Aug 13+12d Ballinrobe Corrib Oil Handicap Chase (0-116) 17f · Good · 11 ran 7/11 7½ 11-3 112—91C Mark Bolger 4/1
15 Aug 13+102d Tramore Sunnybank Hotel Beginners Chase 16f · Good · 13 ran 1/13 11-6 ——130A Mark Bolger 12/1
05 May 13+79d Limerick Follow Limerick Racecourse On Facebook Handicap (47-65) 11.5f · Soft To Heavy · 15 ran 5/15 shd 9-2 63—74A Charlie Elliott 14/1
15 Feb 13+19d Dundalk (AW) Irish Stablestaff Association Awards 23rd February Apprentice Handicap 12f · Standard · 14 ran 13/14 13 8-12 66—54C Charlie Elliott 20/1
27 Jan 13+120d Leopardstown Leopardstown Beginners Chase 17f · Heavy · 7 ran 7/7 53 11-2 ——94C Robbie Power 25/1
29 Sep 12+47d Navan Kells Beginners Chase 20f · Soft · 11 ran 5/11 13 10-11 ——101A Robbie Power 20/1
13 Aug 12+17d Ballinrobe E.p.s. Pumps Handicap Hurdle 16f · Yielding · 8 ran 5/8 9½ 10-11 111—101A Robbie Power 14/1
27 Jul 12+37d Wexford Slaney Handicap (50-80) 11.5f · Good To Firm · 11 ran 11/11 6½ 9-4 70—55C Fran Berry 7/1
20 Jun 12+14d Wexford Ladies Free On Littlewoods Ladies Day July 28th Maiden Hurdle 16f · Good · 16 ran 2/16 4½ 11-7 108—120A Robbie Power 10/1
06 Jun 12+7d Fairyhouse Fairyhouse Summer Series Handicap (50-80) 12f · Good To Yielding · 15 ran 6/15 ½ 9-7 70—81A Fran Berry 5/1
30 May 12+17d Punchestown www.irishracehorseowners.com (c & G) Maiden Hurdle 16f · Good · 22 ran 5/22 2 11-4 108—116A Robbie Power 12/1
13 May 12+206d Killarney Killarney Towers Hotel Maiden Hurdle 17f · Good · 15 ran 9/15 2¾ 11-7 108—98A Robbie Power 7/1
20 Oct 11+8d Thurles Killinan 3-y-o Maiden Hurdle 16f · Good · 18 ran 4/18 2¾ 10-12 ——112A Robbie Power 4/1
12 Oct 11+31d Punchestown Go Racing In Kildare Festival 3-Y-O Maiden Hurdle 16f · Yielding To Soft · 18 ran 5/18 3¾ 10-12 ——107A Robbie Power 3/1
11 Sep 11+19d Listowel Dawn Omega Milk 3-Y-O Hurdle 16f · Soft To Heavy · 18 ran 7/18 2¼ 10-12 ——92C Robbie Power 9/4F
23 Aug 11+21d Killarney Tadgh Clifford Groundcare Handicap (50-80) 11f · Good · 12 ran 7/12 1¼ 9-5 74—66A Fran Berry 9/2
02 Aug 11+11d Roscommon Railway Bar 3-Y-O Maiden Hurdle 16f · Good · 16 ran 2/16 ¾ 10-12 ——124A Barry Geraghty 5/2F
22 Jul 11+11d Down Royal Bushmills Irish Whiskey Handicap (50-80) 10.5f · Good · 7 ran 2/7 1¾ 9-4 72—74A Fran Berry 9/4F
11 Jul 11+12d Killarney Killarney Avenue/Munster Joinery Handicap 11f · Good · 7 ran 3/7 1 8-6 72—72A Shane Foley 4/1
29 Jun 11+20d Fairyhouse 'Tote Trifecta Rollover' Handicap (47-75) 10f · Good · 17 ran 1/17 8-6 60—79A Shane Foley 6/1J
09 Jun 11+23d Leopardstown Sharon Shannon Big Band Handicap (47-70) 10f · Good To Yielding · 14 ran 4/14 3½ 8-7 60—60A Ronan Whelan 14/1
17 May 11+39d Killarney Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Median Auction Maiden 8.5f · Good · 15 ran 8/15 nk 8-9 60—56A Kevin Sexton 50/1
08 Apr 11+173d Dundalk (AW) Fund Raising Made Easy At Dundalk Maiden 7f · Standard · 14 ran 12/14 3 9-5 ——54A Fran Berry 25/1
17 Oct 10+16d Naas Tifrums E.B.F. (c & G) Maiden 6f · Good · 10 ran 4/10 7 9-0 ——64A Fran Berry 11/2
01 Oct 10 Dundalk (AW) Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Auction Maiden 8f · Standard · 10 ran 7/10 1¾ 9-0 ——55A Fran Berry 4/1

Quick answers

How many races has Why But Why (USA) won?
Why But Why (USA) won 2 of 42 archived starts between 2010 and 2018, a strike rate of 4.8%. Placed 5 times in total (11.9% of starts).
Who trained Why But Why (USA)?
Why But Why (USA) was trained by William Young Jnr on the most recent run on record, at Ayr on 2 January 2018.
Who is Why But Why (USA)'s sire?
Why But Why (USA) is by Whywhywhy (USA) out of Miss Orah (GB), whose sire is Unfuwain.
What going does Why But Why (USA) prefer?
Why But Why (USA) has the best record on good going: 2 wins from 18 starts (11.1%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Why But Why (USA)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 81, from the run on 2 January 2018. The highest on record is 115.
What is Why But Why (USA)'s sire's record?
Whywhywhy (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.4% of 95 runs since Jan 2008 (8 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Why But Why (USA)'s siblings?
Out of Miss Orah (GB), Why But Why (USA) has 2 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Parc des Princes (USA) (7). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Parc des Princes (USA)). The wins came over 7f–2m3½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2010. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.