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Horse profile

Whynotgiveup (IRE)

8yo mare (at last run, Jul 2014) · Last trainer P G Fahey · Last owner Seamus Deering John A Breen P G Fahey
by King Cheetah (USA) out of High Rose (IRE) (High Estate)
16 runs · 11 courses · from Jul 2011
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 4 Jul 2014 — 4,493 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2014 · 13th of 15 Last raced off OR 47
KTB Profile

Whynotgiveup (IRE) is yet to win from 16 starts, though has placed twice. Best effort: 2nd of 13 at Ballinrobe (Jul 2011). Last raced off 47, 38lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 16 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 38lb off peak
Official rating47↓ 38lb off peak
47 47–85

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 44A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Dundalk (AW), 7 Dec 2012 Official rating 47 at the last flat run, 4 Jul 2014

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 81C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Clonmel, 14 Jun 2013 Official rating 83 at the last jumps run, 6 Sep 2013

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 6 figures · best 47C · median 43.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)346A44—
Good1———
Good to Firm1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f447C45—
1m5f – 2m1———
1m – 1m1f1———
Jumps 9 figures · best 106A · median 81
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Good3106A90—
Soft284A82.5—
Heavy272C71.5—
Good to Firm1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m9106A81—

Of 16 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 15 figures from 16 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
King Cheetah (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 0% of 44 runs since Jan 2008 (6 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm400%00 from 3
Good1100%00 from 4
Good to Soft500%00 from 1
Soft1100%00 from 3
Heavy800%00 from 2
Standard (AW)500%00 from 3
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f300%0—
6f – 7f500%0—
1m – 1m1f300%00 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f500%00 from 4
1m5f – 2m1300%00 from 11
2m1f – 2m4f900%0—
2m5f – 3m500%0—
Over 3m100%0—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
High Rose (IRE) (High Estate)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 4 0 0% −4.00
Good to Firm 3 0 0% −3.00
Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Standard (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Dundalk (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Roscommon 2 0 0% −2.00
Down Royal 2 0 0% −2.00
Tramore 2 0 0% −2.00
Bellewstown 1 0 0% −1.00
Kilbeggan 1 0 0% −1.00
Clonmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Sligo 1 0 0% −1.00
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00
Ballinrobe 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 11 0 0% −11.00
1m2f – 1m4f 4 0 0% −4.00
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Ross Coakley 4 0 0% −4.00
Shane Butler 3 0 0% −3.00
Mr M Fahey 3 0 0% −3.00
Shane Kelly 1 0 0% −1.00
Ian McCarthy 1 0 0% −1.00
Conor Brassil 1 0 0% −1.00
L P Dempsey 1 0 0% −1.00
Miss A O'Brien 1 0 0% −1.00
Miss C L Fahey 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2014 1 0 0% −1.00
2013 4 0 0% −4.00
2012 6 0 0% −6.00
2011 5 0 0% −5.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 6 0 0% −6.00
Hurdle 5 0 0% −5.00
NH Flat 5 0 0% −5.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
04 Jul 14+301d Bellewstown Meath Farm Machinery Handicap (47-65) 14f · Good · 15 ran 13/15 18 8-7 4742C Shane Kelly 22/1
06 Sep 13+59d Kilbeggan Kilbeggan Maiden Hurdle 16f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 7/10 ¾ 10-8 8371C Ian McCarthy 50/1
09 Jul 13+25d Roscommon Pyramid Bookmakers Handicap Hurdle (80-95) (Div 2) 16f · Good To Firm · 17 ran PU/17 — 10-9 85— Conor Brassil 20/1
14 Jun 13+23d Clonmel Mr Mister Menswear Maiden Hurdle 16.5f · Yielding · 18 ran 6/18 ½ 11-0 —81C Shane Butler 33/1
22 May 13+147d Sligo June 18th At Sligo Mares Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft To Heavy · 11 ran 7/11 20 10-8 —71A Shane Butler 20/1
26 Dec 12+19d Down Royal Sean Graham Bookmakers Maiden Hurdle 16f · Heavy · 12 ran 8/12 2½ 10-4 —72C Shane Butler 20/1
07 Dec 12+188d Dundalk (AW) Christmas Race & Dine Packages Apprentice Handicap (47-65) (Div 2) 10.5f · Standard · 14 ran 11/14 1 8-6 4744A L P Dempsey 9/1
02 Jun 12+31d Tramore Book Online At tramore-racecourse.com Handicap (47-65) 12f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 9/13 2¾ 8-5 4943C Ross Coakley 10/1
02 May 12+20d Dundalk (AW) Follow Dundalk On Facebook Maiden 10.5f · Standard · 13 ran 8/13 3 8-9 —46A Ross Coakley 66/1
12 Apr 12+13d Gowran Park Thomastown Maiden 12f · Soft · 16 ran 11/16 hd 8-10 —47C Ross Coakley 66/1
30 Mar 12+176d Dundalk (AW) www.thetote.com Maiden 8f · Standard · 14 ran 13/14 ¾ 8-9 —39C Ross Coakley 33/1
06 Oct 11+14d Tramore Tramore Racecourse 1912 - 2012 Centenary Ladies Flat Race 16f · Yielding · 9 ran 5/9 1½ 11-0 —84A Miss A O'Brien 5/1
22 Sep 11+27d Fairyhouse Bobbyjo Restaurant At Fairyhouse (Ladies) Flat Race 16f · Good · 14 ran 11/14 35 11-2 —80C Miss C L Fahey 9/1
26 Aug 11+24d Down Royal Mirror Flat Race 16f · Good · 13 ran 3/13 7 11-4 —106A Mr M Fahey 5/1
02 Aug 11+14d Roscommon Boyle Flat Race 16f · Good · 11 ran 5/11 11 11-4 —90A Mr M Fahey 4/1
19 Jul 11 Ballinrobe Ballinrobe Bookmakers Flat Race 16f · Good To Yielding · 13 ran 2/13 1½ 11-4 —98A Mr M Fahey 12/1

Quick answers

How many races has Whynotgiveup (IRE) won?
Whynotgiveup (IRE) has yet to win, from 16 archived starts between 2011 and 2014. Placed 2 times in total (12.5% of starts).
Who trained Whynotgiveup (IRE)?
Whynotgiveup (IRE) was trained by P G Fahey on the most recent run on record, at Bellewstown on 4 July 2014.
Who is Whynotgiveup (IRE)'s sire?
Whynotgiveup (IRE) is by King Cheetah (USA) out of High Rose (IRE), whose sire is High Estate.
What is Whynotgiveup (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 47, from the run on 4 July 2014. The highest on record is 85.
What is Whynotgiveup (IRE)'s sire's record?
King Cheetah (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 0% of 44 runs since Jan 2008 (6 horses), Flat and jumps together.

Record shown from July 2011. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.