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Horse profile

You Never Can Tell (IRE)

3yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2019) · Last trainer Richard Spencer · Last owner Six Amigos
by Elzaam (AUS) out of Zanida (IRE) (Mujadil)
12 runs · 10 courses · from Jun 2018
As at 6 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 24 Aug 2019 — 2,630 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2019 · 8th of 8 2 wins · Newcastle (AW) & Thirsk Last raced off OR 85
KTB Profile

You Never Can Tell (IRE) is 2 from 12. Hasn't won since Nov 2018. Last raced off 85, 11lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 12 archived runs · updated 6 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 11lb off peak
Official rating85↓ 11lb off peak
85 85–96

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 99 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Kempton (AW), 4 Jan 2019

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 11 figures · best 103A · median 76
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Standard (AW)6103A90.5—
Good to Firm273A68—
Good to Soft277C76.5—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
6f – 7f11103A76—

Of 12 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 11 figures from 12 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 84B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Lingfield (AW), 2 Mar 2019 Official rating 85 at the last run, 24 Aug 2019

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 11 figures · best 85A · median 70
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Standard (AW)684B74.5—
Good to Firm285A64—
Good to Soft282A74.5—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
6f – 7f1185A70—

Of 12 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 11 figures from 12 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 4,530 runs since Apr 2016 (374 horses).

Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 4.9% from 327.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm10110%+0.8—
Good to Firm4645411.6%+2.41 from 2
Good1,115867.7%−1.50 from 1
Good to Soft4644710.1%+0.90 from 2
Soft873758.6%−0.6—
Heavy291258.6%−0.6—
Standard (AW)1,3131309.9%+0.71 from 7
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f4084711.5%+2.3—
6f – 7f1,7731659.3%+0.12 from 12
1m – 1m1f1,120998.8%−0.4—
1m2f – 1m4f7037510.7%+1.5—
1m5f – 2m327164.9%−4.3—
2m1f – 2m4f153159.8%+0.6—
2m5f – 3m3900%−9.2—
Over 3m7114.3%+5.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2016 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Zanida (IRE) (Mujadil)

4 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Crimson Sunrise (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 6f–1m2f; the highest grade won is Class 6 (Man About Town (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Crimson Sunrise (IRE)1126f–1m½f—
Storm Ranger (IRE)3421m1f–1m2f—
Man About Town (IRE)1026f–7fClass 6
My Beauty (IRE)100——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 7 1 14% −5.50
Good to Firm 2 1 50% +7.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 2 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 1 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 6 1 1 100% +0.50
Class 5 1 1 100% +8.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Lingfield (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Newcastle (AW) 2 1 50% −0.50
Chelmsford City (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Lingfield 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Newmarket 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Thirsk 1 1 100% +8.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Tom Queally 5 0 0% −5.00
Graham Lee 4 2 50% +6.50
Sean Kirrane 1 0 0% −1.00
Luke Morris 1 0 0% −1.00
Adam Kirby 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 7 2 29% +3.50
Blinkers 3 0 0% −3.00
Cheekpieces 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2019 6 0 0% −6.00
2018 6 2 33% +4.50

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2019 · 6 runs
24 Aug 19+31d Chelmsford City (AW) Bet toteswinger At totesport.com Handicap Class 4 · 7f · Standard · 8 ran 8/8 49 9-0 85-7C43C Sean Kirrane 25/1
24 Jul 19+96d Lingfield Stratum5 - Digitalising The Shipping Industry Classified Stakes Class 3 · 7½f · Good To Firm · 5 ran 5/5 22 9-0 9063C43C Luke Morris 16/1
19 Apr 19+48d Lingfield (AW) Ladbrokes 3 Year Old All-weather Championships Conditions Stakes Class 2 · 6f · Standard · 12 ran PU/12 — 9-5 91—— Tom Queally 20/1
02 Mar 19+10d Lingfield (AW) Ladbrokes Spring Cup Stakes (Listed) Class 1 · 7f · Standard · 6 ran 3/6 2 9-2 9196A84B Tom Queally 20/1
20 Feb 19+47d Newcastle (AW) Ladbrokes Home Of The Odds Boost Conditions Stakes (Plus 10) Class 2 · 6f · Standard To Slow · 7 ran 6/7 1 9-0 9285B70A Graham Lee 6/1
04 Jan 19+27d Kempton (AW) 32Red Conditions Stakes (Plus 10) Class 2 · 6f · Standard To Slow · 7 ran 7/7 1¼ 9-2 9399A69A Adam Kirby 9/4F
2018 · 6 runs
08 Dec 18+35d Wolverhampton (AW) Ladbrokes Conditions Stakes (All-Weather Championships Fast-Track Qualifier) (Plus 10) Class 2 · 6f · Standard · 7 ran 3/7 1¼ 9-2 94103A79A Graham Lee 9/2
03 Nov 18+7d Newcastle (AW) Ladbrokes Home Of The Odds Boost Novice Median Auction Stakes Class 6 · 6f · Standard · 6 ran 1/6 9-8 9461A83B Graham Lee 1/2F
27 Oct 18+30d Newbury Molson Coors Stakes (Group 3) (Str) (Registered As The Horris Hill Stakes) Class 1 · 7f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 8/8 1¾ 9-0 9677C67C Tom Queally 20/1
27 Sep 18+13d Newmarket Tattersalls Stakes (Group 3) (Registered As The Somerville Tattersall Stakes) Class 1 · 7f · Good · 7 ran 7/7 9 9-0 —71C56C Tom Queally 20/1
14 Sep 18+94d Doncaster Weatherbys Global Stallions App Flying Scotsman Stakes (Listed) Class 1 · 7f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 4/8 ½ 9-0 —76A82A Tom Queally 20/1
12 Jun 18 Thirsk Racing To School Novice Auction Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Good To Firm · 12 ran 1/12 9-2 —73A85A Graham Lee 8/1

Quick answers

How many races has You Never Can Tell won?
You Never Can Tell (IRE) won 2 of 12 archived starts between 2018 and 2019, a strike rate of 16.7%. Placed 2 times in total (16.7% of starts).
Who trained You Never Can Tell?
You Never Can Tell (IRE) was trained by Richard Spencer on the most recent run on record, at Chelmsford City (AW) on 24 August 2019.
Who is You Never Can Tell's sire?
You Never Can Tell (IRE) is by Elzaam (AUS) out of Zanida (IRE), whose sire is Mujadil.
What going does You Never Can Tell prefer?
You Never Can Tell (IRE) has the best record on standard (aw) going: 1 win from 7 starts (14.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is You Never Can Tell's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 85, from the run on 24 August 2019. The highest on record is 96.
What is You Never Can Tell's sire's record?
Elzaam (AUS)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 4,530 runs since Apr 2016 (374 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 4.9% from 327.
Who are You Never Can Tell's siblings?
Out of Zanida (IRE), You Never Can Tell (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Crimson Sunrise (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 6 (Man About Town (IRE)). The wins came over 6f–1m2f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from June 2018. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.