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Cloudy Too (IRE)

12yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2018) · Last trainer Sue Smith · Last owner Formulated Polymer Products Ltd
by Cloudings (IRE) out of Curra Citizen (IRE) (Phardante)
47 runs · 16 courses · from Oct 2010
As at 13 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 31 Mar 2018 — 3,118 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2018 9 wins · 6 courses Last raced off OR 128
KTB Profile

Cloudy Too (IRE) is 9 from 47, including a Grade 2 win. The biggest win we hold: the Peter Marsh Chase at Haydock (Jan 2016). Hasn't won since Nov 2016. Last raced off 128, 29lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 47 archived runs · updated 13 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 29lb off peak
Official rating128↓ 29lb off peak
128 121–157

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 75 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Sandown, 6 Jan 2018

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was.

Jumps 11 figures · best 104A · median 84
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 13 Oct 2025
Good to Soft4104A75—
Soft4100C87—
Heavy375B45—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 13 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m8104A87—
Over 3m351B45—

Of 12 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 11 figures from 12 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 125A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Sandown, 6 Jan 2018 Official rating 128 at the last run, 31 Mar 2018

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Jumps 39 figures · best 144B · median 124
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 13 Oct 2025
Good to Soft12140A123—
Soft12142B121.5—
Heavy9144B125—
Good6138A123—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 13 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m22144B124.5—
Over 3m8142B117—
2m1f – 2m4f8141B132.5—
1m5f – 2m1———

Of 47 runs looked at, 8 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (8).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 39 figures from 47 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Cloudings (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 3,882 runs since Jan 2008 (309 horses).

Strongest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 14.6% from 410. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.5% from 815.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm9222.2%+11.7—
Good to Firm2603312.7%+2.2—
Good1,19512310.3%−0.21 from 11
Good to Soft738668.9%−1.61 from 12
Soft1,04411711.2%+0.73 from 15
Heavy5966811.4%+0.94 from 9
Standard (AW)4000%−10.5—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f100%−10.5—
6f – 7f1218.3%−2.2—
1m – 1m1f2100%−10.5—
1m2f – 1m4f27414.8%+4.3—
1m5f – 2m815617.5%−30 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f1,32614811.2%+0.75 from 11
2m5f – 3m1,27013510.6%+0.13 from 23
Over 3m4106014.6%+4.11 from 12

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 13 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Curra Citizen (IRE) (Phardante)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Indian Citizen (IRE) (1 win).

The wins came over 3m; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Indian Citizen (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Indian Citizen (IRE)1213mClass 5
Present Citizen (IRE)100——
Citizen Shan (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 15 3 20% −2.75
Good to Soft 12 1 8% −4.00
Good 11 1 9% −6.50
Heavy 9 4 44% +14.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 2 16 1 6% −10.50
Class 1 14 3 21% +1.75
Class 3 12 4 33% +6.50
Class 4 5 1 20% +3.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Haydock 9 2 22% +3.00
Kelso 4 0 0% −4.00
Bangor-on-Dee 4 0 0% −4.00
Wetherby 4 2 50% +5.25
Ayr 3 0 0% −3.00
Aintree 3 0 0% −3.00
Carlisle 3 2 67% +8.00
Sedgefield 3 1 33% +5.00
Sandown 2 0 0% −2.00
Uttoxeter 2 1 50% +1.00
Newbury 2 0 0% −2.00
Ascot 2 0 0% −2.00
Newcastle 2 1 50% +2.50
Cheltenham 2 0 0% −2.00
Catterick 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 23 3 13% −8.50
Over 3m 12 1 8% −8.25
2m1f – 2m4f 11 5 45% +18.50
1m5f – 2m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Danny Cook 13 2 15% −3.00
Jonathan England 12 4 33% +7.25
Shane Byrne 6 1 17% +2.00
Sean Quinlan 4 0 0% −4.00
Wayne Hutchinson 3 1 33% +2.00
Henry Oliver 3 0 0% −3.00
Henry Brooke 1 0 0% −1.00
Leighton Aspell 1 0 0% −1.00
Derek Fox 1 0 0% −1.00
Richard Johnson 1 0 0% −1.00
Timmy Murphy 1 1 100% +4.50
Tjade Collier 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2018 3 0 0% −3.00
2017 6 0 0% −6.00
2016 7 2 29% +3.00
2015 6 0 0% −6.00
2014 3 0 0% −3.00
2013 8 4 50% +11.25
2012 5 2 40% +5.50
2011 8 1 13% +0.00
2010 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 35 6 17% −2.75
Hurdle 12 3 25% +3.50

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
31 Mar 18+21d Haydock Smarkets Tim Molony Handicap Chase Class 3 · 28.5f · Soft · 9 ran PU/9 — 11-12 128—— Danny Cook 11/1
10 Mar 18+63d Ayr Magners Irish Cider Handicap Chase Class 3 · 24f · Heavy · 6 ran 3/6 68 11-5 13019C99C Danny Cook 5/1
06 Jan 18+42d Sandown 32Red Veterans' Handicap Chase (Final of the 2017 Veterans' Chase Series) Class 2 · 24f · Heavy · 14 ran 4/14 shd 10-0 12975B125A Henry Brooke 8/1
25 Nov 17+27d Haydock Best Odds Guaranteed With Betfair Handicap Chase Class 2 · 25.5f · Heavy · 8 ran 3/8 24 11-0 13245A104B Danny Cook 8/1
29 Oct 17+10d Aintree Play Betting At 188Bet Veterans' Handicap Chase Class 2 · 25f · Good To Soft · 16 ran 11/16 14 11-3 13643C114C Danny Cook 14/1
19 Oct 17+208d Uttoxeter Selectequip Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 23.5f · Soft · 8 ran 6/8 8 11-4 12684C102C Danny Cook 7/1
25 Mar 17+35d Newbury Be Wiser Insurance Handicap Chase Class 3 · 26f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 3/10 hd 11-10 13651B131A Leighton Aspell 10/1
18 Feb 17+42d Ascot Keltbray Swinley Chase (Limited Handicap) (Listed) Class 1 · 24f · Soft · 7 ran 4/7 ½ 10-7 13889C113C Sean Quinlan 12/1
07 Jan 17+34d Sandown 32Red Veterans' Handicap Chase (The Final Of The 2016 Veterans' Chase Series) Class 2 · 24f · Soft · 16 ran 5/16 7 11-3 14085B132A Danny Cook 8/1
04 Dec 16+14d Kelso Scotty Brand Veterans' Handicap Chase (Last Qualifying Leg Of The 2016 Veterans' Chase Series) Class 2 · 22.5f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 2/8 11 11-4 142104A140A Danny Cook 9/1
20 Nov 16+11d Uttoxeter Marston's Saddle Tank Handicap Hurdle (Qualifier For The Challenger Staying Hurdle Series Final) Class 3 · 23.5f · Soft · 5 ran 1/5 11-1 122100C130B Danny Cook 2/1F
09 Nov 16+214d Bangor-on-Dee Anne Duchess Of Westminster Memorial Handicap Chase Class 2 · 24f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 10/13 8 11-8 14499C114C Sean Quinlan 20/1
09 Apr 16+27d Aintree Betfred Handicap Chase (Listed) Class 1 · 25f · Soft · 14 ran 6/14 5 11-1 146—114C Derek Fox 14/1
13 Mar 16+22d Kelso totepoolliveinfo.com Premier Chase (Listed) Class 1 · 23.5f · Soft · 7 ran 5/7 6 11-4 148—125A Danny Cook 14/1
20 Feb 16+28d Haydock Betfred Grand National Trial (Grade 3 Handicap Chase) Class 1 · 28.5f · Heavy · 8 ran 3/8 22 11-12 149—110C Danny Cook 11/2
23 Jan 16+35d Haydock Peter Marsh Chase (Grade 2 Limited Handicap) Class 1 · 24f · Heavy · 12 ran 1/12 10-4 137—144B Danny Cook 6/1
19 Dec 15+21d Haydock Tommy Whittle Handicap Chase (Sponsored By Nationwide Vehicle Contracts) Class 2 · 23f · Heavy · 10 ran 3/10 6 11-5 138—124B Sean Quinlan 8/1
28 Nov 15+17d Newcastle At The Races Rehearsal Chase (Listed Handicap) Class 1 · 23.5f · Soft · 12 ran 8/12 1 11-1 142—115A Sean Quinlan 20/1
11 Nov 15+11d Bangor-on-Dee Anne Duchess Of Westminster Memorial Handicap Chase Class 2 · 24f · Soft · 13 ran PU/13 — 11-12 145—— Danny Cook 11/1
31 Oct 15+224d Ayr Tennent's Cup Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 16f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 9/11 6 10-10 133—103A Danny Cook 11/1
21 Mar 15+21d Kelso Liz Adam Memorial Handicap Chase Class 2 · 26f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 5/10 2¼ 11-9 150—127A Jonathan England 13/2
28 Feb 15+315d Kelso totepool Premier Chase (Listed) Class 1 · 23.5f · Good To Soft · 6 ran 4/6 2 11-8 156—122B Jonathan England 7/2
19 Apr 14+36d Haydock Bet At corbettsports.com Levy Board Handicap Chase Class 2 · 23f · Good · 11 ran 6/11 shd 11-9 157—138A Jonathan England 10/1
14 Mar 14+27d Cheltenham Betfred Cheltenham Gold Cup Chase (Grade 1) Class 1 · 26.5f · Good · 13 ran UR/13 — 11-10 157—— Jonathan England 50/1
15 Feb 14+51d Ascot Betfair Ascot Chase (Grade 1) Class 1 · 21f · Soft · 8 ran 2/8 19 11-7 157—136B Jonathan England 7/1
26 Dec 13+26d Wetherby William Hill Rowland Meyrick Handicap Chase (Grade 3) Class 1 · 25f · Soft · 8 ran 1/8 11-0 148—142B Jonathan England 11/4
30 Nov 13+27d Newbury Hennessy Gold Cup Chase (Grade 3 Handicap) Class 1 · 26f · Good · 21 ran 12/21 1¼ 11-4 150—120A Richard Johnson 20/1
03 Nov 13+218d Carlisle Colin Parker Memorial Intermediate Chase (Listed) Class 1 · 20f · Heavy · 5 ran 1/5 11-6 147—141B Jonathan England 4/1
30 Mar 13+18d Haydock Betvictor.com Levy Board Handicap Chase Class 2 · 19f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 3/12 hd 11-12 145—138A Wayne Hutchinson 12/1
12 Mar 13+24d Cheltenham Jlt Specialty Handicap Chase (Grade 3) Class 1 · 24.5f · Soft · 24 ran 10/24 5 11-5 146—118C Wayne Hutchinson 16/1
16 Feb 13+14d Haydock Betfred Treble Odds On Lucky 15's Novices' Handicap Chase Class 3 · 19f · Heavy · 7 ran 1/7 11-11 137—138B Wayne Hutchinson 4/1
02 Feb 13+23d Wetherby Play Totescoop6 At Totepool.com Handicap Chase Class 2 · 19.5f · Soft · 10 ran 1/10 10-10 129—139A Timmy Murphy 9/2
10 Jan 13+26d Catterick North Yorkshire Grand National Handicap Chase Class 3 · 30f · Soft · 14 ran F/14 — 11-0 129—— Jonathan England 10/1
15 Dec 12+41d Doncaster Healthwatch Doncaster Novices' Chase Class 4 · 24f · Good To Soft · 5 ran 4/5 ½ 11-1 129—116B Jonathan England 12/1
04 Nov 12+197d Carlisle Edinburgh Woollen Mill Beginners' Chase Class 3 · 20f · Heavy · 8 ran 1/8 10-9 125—127B Jonathan England 5/1
21 Apr 12+35d Ayr Ayrshire Hospice Making Today Matter Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 21.5f · Good · 10 ran 6/10 17 10-9 135—104C Jonathan England 7/1
17 Mar 12+17d Newcastle Guinness Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 24f · Good · 10 ran 1/10 10-13 121—136A Jonathan England 7/2F
29 Feb 12+77d Bangor-on-Dee Weatherbys Bank Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 23f · Good · 17 ran 4/17 3¼ 11-7 122—126A Henry Oliver 10/1
14 Dec 11+25d Bangor-on-Dee Alfa Aggregates Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 23f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 3/12 2 11-6 122—130A Henry Oliver 16/1
19 Nov 11+11d Haydock Listen To Timeform Radio Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 20f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 8/12 1½ 10-0 124—107A Henry Oliver 40/1
08 Nov 11+10d Sedgefield John Smith's C & Iu 150th Anniversary Novices' Limited Handicap Chase Class 3 · 19.5f · Good · 5 ran PU/5 — 10-13 124—— Shane Byrne 7/2
29 Oct 11+22d Wetherby bet365.com Novices' Chase Class 3 · 25f · Good · 9 ran UR/9 — 10-13 ——— Shane Byrne 7/2
07 Oct 11+182d Carlisle Wilson And Joan Garnett Novices' Chase Class 4 · 20f · Good · 8 ran UR/8 — 10-13 ——— Shane Byrne 8/1
08 Apr 11+33d Aintree John Smith's Sefton Novices' Hurdle (Grade 1) Class 1 · 24.5f · Good · 19 ran 9/19 14 11-4 124—112C Shane Byrne 100/1
06 Mar 11+26d Sedgefield Kiel & Baldvin Novices' Hurdle (Qualifier) (Part Of The John Wade Novice Hurdle Series) Class 4 · 19f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 1/11 10-11 ——124A Shane Byrne 7/1
08 Feb 11+102d Sedgefield John Wade Novices' Hurdle (Qualifier) Class 4 · 19f · Soft · 12 ran 3/12 5 11-4 ——101A Tjade Collier 16/1
29 Oct 10 Wetherby Wetherby Racecourse & Conference Centre 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Good · 11 ran PU/11 — 10-7 ——— Shane Byrne 10/1

Quick answers

How many races has Cloudy Too (IRE) won?
Cloudy Too (IRE) won 9 of 47 archived starts between 2010 and 2018, a strike rate of 19.1%. Placed 19 times in total (40.4% of starts).
Who trained Cloudy Too (IRE)?
Cloudy Too (IRE) was trained by Sue Smith on the most recent run on record, at Haydock on 31 March 2018.
Who is Cloudy Too (IRE)'s sire?
Cloudy Too (IRE) is by Cloudings (IRE) out of Curra Citizen (IRE), whose sire is Phardante.
What going does Cloudy Too (IRE) prefer?
Cloudy Too (IRE) has the best record on heavy going: 4 wins from 9 starts (44.4%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Cloudy Too (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 128, from the run on 31 March 2018. The highest on record is 157.
What is Cloudy Too (IRE)'s sire's record?
Cloudings (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 3,882 runs since Jan 2008 (309 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 14.6% from 410. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.5% from 815.
Who are Cloudy Too (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Curra Citizen (IRE), Cloudy Too (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Indian Citizen (IRE) (1). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Indian Citizen (IRE)). The wins came over 3m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2010. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.