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Debater (GB)

3yo filly (at last run, Oct 2023) · Last trainer Hugo Palmer · Last owner Isa Salman Al Khalifa
8 runs · 8 courses · from Jun 2022
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 12 Oct 2023 — 1,104 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2023 · 9th of 10 Last raced off OR 54
KTB Profile

Debater (GB) is yet to win from 8 starts. Best effort: 4th of 9 at Nottingham (Jun 2022). Last raced off 54, 13lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 8 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 13lb off peak
Official rating54↓ 13lb off peak
54 54–67

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 95 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Wolverhampton (AW), 15 May 2023

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 8 figures · best 95A · median 72
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)395A66—
Good to Firm283A80.5—
Heavy1———
Good to Soft1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
6f – 7f795A78—
Under 6f1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 8 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 46A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Windsor, 4 Sep 2023 Official rating 54 at the last run, 12 Oct 2023

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 8 figures · best 74A · median 47.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)354A49—
Good to Firm272A59—
Heavy1———
Good to Soft1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
6f – 7f774A49—
Under 6f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 8 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,310 runs since Jan 2008 (705 horses).

Weakest on good to soft going: 9% from 612. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 185.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm16531.3%+19.2—
Good to Firm92712213.2%+1.10 from 2
Good1,48918112.2%+0.10 from 1
Good to Soft612559%−3.10 from 1
Soft84310912.9%+0.8—
Heavy2763613%+0.90 from 1
Standard (AW)2,14725311.8%−0.30 from 3
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f91012213.4%+1.30 from 1
6f – 7f3,37443713%+0.90 from 7
1m – 1m1f1,17712911%−1.1—
1m2f – 1m4f582549.3%−2.8—
1m5f – 2m185147.6%−4.5—
2m1f – 2m4f7756.5%−5.6—
2m5f – 3m500%−12.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

1 sibling in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Biographer (GB) (1 win).

The wins came over 6f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Biographer (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Biographer (GB)1316fClass 5

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 5 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 4 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Ayr 1 0 0% −1.00
Windsor 1 0 0% −1.00
Carlisle 1 0 0% −1.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Newcastle (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Yarmouth 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 7 0 0% −7.00
Under 6f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Harry Davies 2 0 0% −2.00
Ben Curtis 1 0 0% −1.00
Oisin Murphy 1 0 0% −1.00
Joe Fanning 1 0 0% −1.00
Andrew Mullen 1 0 0% −1.00
Rossa Ryan 1 0 0% −1.00
Ross Coakley 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 4 0 0% −4.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00
Visor 1 0 0% −1.00
Tongue tie 1 0 0% −1.00
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2023 4 0 0% −4.00
2022 4 0 0% −4.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
12 Oct 23+38d Ayr Virgin Bet Every Saturday Money Back Handicap Class 6 · 7f · Heavy · 10 ran 9/10 3 9-3 5445C38C Ben Curtis 40/1
04 Sep 23+77d Windsor CAE & SBS In Partnership Handicap Class 6 · 6f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 12/13 2¾ 9-9 5778C46A Oisin Murphy 8/1
19 Jun 23+35d Carlisle racingtv.com Fillies' Handicap Class 5 · 7f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 7/8 5½ 9-0 6162C36C Joe Fanning 8/1
15 May 23+206d Wolverhampton (AW) Racing Welfare - Mental Health Awareness Week Handicap Class 5 · 6f · Standard · 10 ran 6/10 ½ 8-10 6495A54A Harry Davies 15/2
21 Oct 22+36d Newcastle (AW) talkSPORT Download The App Nursery Class 6 · 5f · Standard To Slow · 8 ran 6/8 1¼ 9-11 6766A45A Andrew Mullen 6/1
15 Sep 22+71d Yarmouth British EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes (GBB Race) (Div 1) Class 4 · 6f · Good · 10 ran 5/10 shd 9-2 —86A74A Rossa Ryan 11/1
06 Jul 22+23d Kempton (AW) Unibet/British Stallion Studs EBF Fillies' Novice Stakes (GBB Race) Class 4 · 6f · Standard To Slow · 9 ran 5/9 1½ 8-11 —62A49A Harry Davies 4/1
13 Jun 22 Nottingham EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (GBB Race) Class 5 · 6f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 4/9 2¼ 9-2 —83A72A Ross Coakley 5/2F

Quick answers

How many races has Debater (GB) won?
Debater (GB) has yet to win, from 8 archived starts between 2022 and 2023.
Who trained Debater (GB)?
Debater (GB) was trained by Hugo Palmer on the most recent run on record, at Ayr on 12 October 2023.
Who is Debater (GB)'s sire?
Debater (GB) is by No Nay Never (USA) out of Now You're Talking (IRE), whose sire is Zoffany.
What is Debater (GB)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 54, from the run on 12 October 2023. The highest on record is 67.
What is Debater (GB)'s sire's record?
No Nay Never (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,310 runs since Jan 2008 (705 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to soft going: 9% from 612. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 185.
Who are Debater (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Now You're Talking (IRE), Debater (GB) has 1 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Biographer (GB) (1). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Biographer (GB)). The wins came over 6f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from June 2022. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.