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Horse profile

Elusive Deal (USA)

3yo filly (at last run, Oct 2008) · Last trainer Lisa Williamson · Last owner Rob Lloyd Racing Limited
by Elusive Quality (USA) out of Peacefally (IRE) (Grand Lodge)
15 runs · 9 courses · from May 2007
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 23 Oct 2008 — 6,586 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2008 · 9th of 9 Last raced off OR 52
KTB Profile

Elusive Deal (USA) is yet to win from 15 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 2nd of 12 at Wolverhampton (AW) (Oct 2007). Last raced off 52, 11lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 15 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 11lb off peak

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, Elusive Deal (USA) has 3 produce in the archive, 2 winners — most wins Chester Deal (GB) (2 wins).

The wins came over 7½f–1m2½f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Chester Deal (GB)927½f—
Multideal (GB)1211m2½f—
Marilyn Marquessa (GB)130——
Official rating52↓ 11lb off peak
52 52–63

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 47A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Chester, 27 Sep 2008 Official rating 52 at the last run, 23 Oct 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 15 figures · best 66C · median 45
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Standard (AW)666C52—
Good to Firm652C44.5—
Good242C41.5—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
1m2f – 1m4f548A42—
1m – 1m1f459C52—
6f – 7f466C46.5—
Under 6f245C43.5—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 15 figures from 15 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Elusive Quality (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 12.3% of 3,387 runs since Jan 2008 (333 horses).

Weakest on good to soft going: 7.9% from 280. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 16% from 319.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm25312%−0.3—
Good to Firm5916911.7%−0.60 from 6
Good7209012.5%+0.20 from 2
Good to Soft280227.9%−4.4—
Soft3773810.1%−2.2—
Heavy9177.7%−4.60 from 1
Standard (AW)1,30318814.4%+2.10 from 6
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f3195116%+3.70 from 2
6f – 7f1,33316212.2%−0.10 from 4
1m – 1m1f94212112.8%+0.50 from 4
1m2f – 1m4f5405810.7%−1.60 from 5
1m5f – 2m1491912.8%+0.5—
2m1f – 2m4f7534%−8.3—
2m5f – 3m29310.3%−2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Peacefally (IRE) (Grand Lodge)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 6 0 0% −6.00
Good to Firm 6 0 0% −6.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 6 0 0% −6.00
Class 5 5 0 0% −5.00
Class 4 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 2 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Wolverhampton (AW) 4 0 0% −4.00
Chester 3 0 0% −3.00
Haydock 2 0 0% −2.00
Chelmsford (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Pontefract 1 0 0% −1.00
Hamilton 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Redcar 1 0 0% −1.00
Ripon 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m2f – 1m4f 5 0 0% −5.00
1m – 1m1f 4 0 0% −4.00
6f – 7f 4 0 0% −4.00
Under 6f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Paul Hanagan 4 0 0% −4.00
Russ Kennemore 2 0 0% −2.00
Pat Cosgrave 2 0 0% −2.00
Dale Gibson 2 0 0% −2.00
Jamie Moriarty 2 0 0% −2.00
Paul Quinn 1 0 0% −1.00
Tony Hamilton 1 0 0% −1.00
Joe Fanning 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 11 0 0% −11.00
Cheekpieces 4 0 0% −4.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2008 5 0 0% −5.00
2007 10 0 0% −10.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2008 · 5 runs
23 Oct 08+17d Chelmsford (AW) Banqueting At Great Leighs Handicap Class 6 · 1m2f · Standard · 9 ran 9/9 5 8-7 5234C Russ Kennemore 66/1
06 Oct 08+9d Pontefract Dem Window Solutions Handicap Class 5 · 1m4f · Good · 12 ran 12/12 30 8-4 5341C Paul Quinn 66/1
27 Sep 08+88d Chester M&S Money Maiden Fillies' Stakes Class 4 · 1m2½f · Good To Firm · 11 ran 8/11 2 8-9 5347A Russ Kennemore 33/1
01 Jul 08+21d Hamilton Daily Record Handicap Class 6 · 1m4f · Good · 11 ran 9/11 3¾ 9-1 5442C Pat Cosgrave 16/1
10 Jun 08+190d Chester Daniel Stewart Handicap Class 5 · 1m2½f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 5/9 2¼ 8-9 5648A Pat Cosgrave 25/1
2007 · 10 runs
03 Dec 07+24d Wolverhampton (AW) Go Pontin's Holidays Nursery Handicap (Div 1) Class 6 · 1m½f · Standard · 10 ran 8/10 2½ 9-1 5927C Dale Gibson 10/1
09 Nov 07+14d Wolverhampton (AW) Stay At The Wolverhampton Holiday Inn Nursery Handicap Class 5 · 1m½f · Standard · 12 ran 9/12 1 8-9 6148C Tony Hamilton 14/1
26 Oct 07+18d Wolverhampton (AW) Play Monopoly At skybetvegas.com Casino Nursery Handicap Class 6 · 1m½f · Standard · 10 ran 4/10 ¾ 9-0 6156C Jamie Moriarty 9/2
08 Oct 07+23d Wolverhampton (AW) wolverhampton-racecourse.co.uk Nursery Handicap Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 12 ran 2/12 6 9-2 6066C Paul Hanagan 6/1
15 Sep 07+9d Kempton (AW) Digibet Nursery Handicap Class 6 · 1m · Standard · 14 ran 6/14 nk 8-13 6059C Jamie Moriarty 9/1
06 Sep 07+34d Redcar Weddings At Redcar Nursery Handicap Class 5 · 7f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 5/13 hd 7-13 5952C Paul Hanagan 25/1
03 Aug 07+13d Haydock Jeremy Fox Cancer Research UK Nursery Handicap Class 4 · 6f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 7/9 ¾ 7-12 6341C Dale Gibson 14/1
21 Jul 07+56d Ripon E.B.F. Dobsons Gaskets Maiden Fillies' Stakes Class 4 · 5f · Heavy · 9 ran 4/9 5 8-11 —45C Paul Hanagan 7/1
26 May 07+17d Haydock E B F Nobby Edwards 65th Birthday Maiden Fillies' Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Good To Firm · 12 ran 12/12 ¾ 9-0 —18C Joe Fanning 7/2
09 May 07 Chester turftv.co.uk E.B.F. Maiden Stakes Class 2 · 5f · Good To Firm · 5 ran 3/5 2½ 8-12 —42C Paul Hanagan 7/1

Quick answers

How many races has Elusive Deal won?
Elusive Deal (USA) has yet to win, from 15 archived starts between 2007 and 2008. Placed 1 time in total (6.7% of starts).
Who trained Elusive Deal?
Elusive Deal (USA) was trained by Lisa Williamson on the most recent run on record, at Chelmsford (AW) on 23 October 2008.
Who is Elusive Deal's sire?
Elusive Deal (USA) is by Elusive Quality (USA) out of Peacefally (IRE), whose sire is Grand Lodge.
What is Elusive Deal's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 52, from the run on 23 October 2008. The highest on record is 63.
What is Elusive Deal's sire's record?
Elusive Quality (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.3% of 3,387 runs since Jan 2008 (333 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to soft going: 7.9% from 280. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 16% from 319.
Has Elusive Deal produced winners?
As a dam, Elusive Deal (USA) has 3 produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Chester Deal (GB) (2). The wins came over 7½f–1m2½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from May 2007. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.