Lion Sands (GB)
Lion Sands (GB) is 3 from 15 in our archive, including 2 Listed wins. The biggest win we hold: the betinternet.com Fred Archer Stakes at Newmarket (Jun 2008). Hasn't won since Jun 2008. Every win has come on good or faster ground (0 from 4 on softer).
- 3–15Wins / Runs
- 20%Strike rate
- 5 (33.3%)Placed
- −3.17£1 level staken=15 at SP
- 1.13Fair A/E n=15 · 0.98 incl. margin
- 111Highest OR
- 55dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 12.3% of 7,971 runs since Jan 2008 (665 horses).
Strongest on heavy going: 16.3% from 686.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 57 | 4 | 7% | −5.3 | 1 from 1 |
| Good to Firm | 1,242 | 159 | 12.8% | +0.5 | 1 from 3 |
| Good | 2,141 | 262 | 12.2% | −0.1 | 1 from 5 |
| Good to Soft | 1,110 | 148 | 13.3% | +1 | 0 from 3 |
| Soft | 1,682 | 194 | 11.5% | −0.8 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 686 | 112 | 16.3% | +4 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 1,053 | 100 | 9.5% | −2.8 | 0 from 2 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 6 | 0 | 0% | −12.3 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 330 | 31 | 9.4% | −2.9 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 813 | 97 | 11.9% | −0.4 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 2,724 | 360 | 13.2% | +0.9 | 2 from 10 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 2,426 | 313 | 12.9% | +0.6 | 1 from 3 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 1,157 | 122 | 10.5% | −1.8 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 414 | 45 | 10.9% | −1.4 | — |
| Over 3m | 101 | 11 | 10.9% | −1.4 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
5 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Pukka (IRE) (1 win).
The wins came over 1m1½f–1m7½f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Pukka (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pukka (IRE) | 7 | 1 | 1m7½f | Class 5 |
| Celt (GB) | 10 | 1 | 1m1½f | Class 5 |
| Garhoud (GB) | 11 | 1 | 1m4f | Class 6 |
| Durante Alighieri (GB) | 4 | 1 | 1m4f | Class 5 |
| Phebe (GB) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 5 | 1 | 20% | −2.50 |
| Good to Soft | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Good to Firm | 3 | 1 | 33% | +2.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Firm | 1 | 1 | 100% | +3.33 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 1 | 12 | 2 | 17% | −5.17 |
| Class 5 | 2 | 1 | 50% | +3.00 |
| Class 4 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Newmarket | 4 | 2 | 50% | +2.83 |
| Ascot | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Kempton (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Goodwood | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Newbury | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| York | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Haydock | 1 | 1 | 100% | +4.00 |
| Yarmouth | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 10 | 2 | 20% | −0.67 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 3 | 1 | 33% | −0.50 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 6f – 7f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nicky Mackay | 4 | 1 | 25% | +1.00 |
| Ryan Moore | 3 | 1 | 33% | −0.50 |
| Dane O'Neill | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Richard Hughes | 2 | 1 | 50% | +2.33 |
| Jimmy Fortune | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Neil Callan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jamie Spencer | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Frankie Dettori | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2008 | 8 | 1 | 13% | −3.67 |
| 2007 | 5 | 2 | 40% | +2.50 |
| 2006 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2008 · 8 runs | |||||||||
| 28 Sep 08+22d | Ascot | Grosvenor Casinos Cumberland Lodge Stakes (Group 3) | 5/5 | hd | 9-0 | 109 | 83B | Dane O'Neill | 13/2 |
| 06 Sep 08+21d | Kempton (AW) | totesport.com September Stakes (Group 3) | 5/12 | 1 | 9-4 | 111 | 91A | Jimmy Fortune | 9/1 |
| 16 Aug 08+15d | Newbury | CGA Geoffrey Freer Stakes (Group 3) | 8/10 | 4 | 9-3 | 109 | 76A | Ryan Moore | 9/1 |
| 01 Aug 08+22d | Goodwood | Coutts Glorious Stakes (Group 3) | 3/12 | nk | 9-0 | 109 | 93A | Richard Hughes | 15/2 |
| 10 Jul 08+12d | Newmarket | Princess Of Wales's WBX.com Stakes (Group 2) | 4/6 | 6 | 9-2 | 109 | 80B | Dane O'Neill | 8/1 |
| 28 Jun 08+28d | Newmarket | betinternet.com Fred Archer Stakes (Listed) | 1/5 | 9-3 | 110 | 96B | Richard Hughes | 10/3 | |
| 31 May 08+21d | York | Stowe Family Law LLP Grand Cup (Listed) | 4/12 | 1¾ | 9-3 | 110 | 87A | Neil Callan | 9/2 |
| 10 May 08+219d | Ascot | John Doyle Buckhounds Stakes (Listed) | 5/10 | nk | 9-1 | 110 | 86A | Jamie Spencer | 11/4F |
| 2007 · 5 runs | |||||||||
| 04 Oct 07+26d | Newmarket | Grove Farm Stud Noel Murless Stakes (Listed) | 1/8 | 9-0 | 109 | 89C | Ryan Moore | 6/4F | |
| 08 Sep 07+39d | Kempton (AW) | totepool September Stakes (Group 3) | 3/7 | shd | 8-9 | 109 | 76C | Nicky Mackay | 10/3 |
| 31 Jul 07+39d | Goodwood | Gordon Stakes (Group 3) | 5/9 | 1 | 9-0 | 109 | 84C | Ryan Moore | 6/1 |
| 22 Jun 07+28d | Ascot | King Edward VII Stakes (Group 2) | 4/9 | 1½ | 8-12 | 100 | 84C | Frankie Dettori | 4/1 |
| 25 May 07+253d | Haydock | Renault Liverpool Maiden Stakes | 1/15 | 8-9 | — | 79C | Nicky Mackay | 4/1 | |
| 2006 · 2 runs | |||||||||
| 14 Sep 06+20d | Yarmouth | E.B.F. Maiden Stakes | 4/9 | 1¾ | 9-3 | — | 75C | Nicky Mackay | 4/5F |
| 25 Aug 06 | Newmarket | Renault Master E.B.F. Maiden Stakes | 3/13 | 1¾ | 9-0 | — | 91C | Nicky Mackay | 10/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Lion Sands won?
- Lion Sands (GB) won 3 of 15 archived starts between 2006 and 2008, a strike rate of 20%. Placed 5 times in total (33.3% of starts).
- Who trained Lion Sands?
- Lion Sands (GB) was trained by Luca Cumani on the most recent run on record, at Ascot on 28 September 2008.
- Who is Lion Sands's sire?
- Lion Sands (GB) is by Montjeu (IRE) out of Puce (GB), whose sire is Darshaan.
- What going does Lion Sands prefer?
- Lion Sands (GB) has the best record on good to firm going: 1 win from 3 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Lion Sands's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 109, from the run on 28 September 2008. The highest on record is 111.
- What is Lion Sands's sire's record?
- Montjeu (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.3% of 7,971 runs since Jan 2008 (665 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on heavy going: 16.3% from 686.
- Who are Lion Sands's siblings?
- Out of Puce (GB), Lion Sands (GB) has 5 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Pukka (IRE) (1). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Pukka (IRE)). The wins came over 1m1½f–1m7½f. As at Oct 2026.