Never Said That (IRE)
Never Said That (IRE) is 3 from 13. Hasn't won since Apr 2015. All 3 wins have come over 2m5f – 3m.
- 3–13Wins / Runs
- 23.1%Strike rate
- 5 (38.5%)Placed
- +10.00£1 level staken=13 at SP
- 3.17Fair A/E n=13 · 2.52 incl. margin
- 112Highest OR
- 66dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 12.2% of 5,648 runs since Jan 2008 (363 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 124 | 14 | 11.3% | −0.9 | 0 from 1 |
| Good | 1,752 | 220 | 12.6% | +0.4 | 2 from 3 |
| Good to Soft | 980 | 121 | 12.3% | +0.1 | — |
| Soft | 1,792 | 194 | 10.8% | −1.4 | 1 from 7 |
| Heavy | 967 | 137 | 14.2% | +2 | 0 from 2 |
| Standard (AW) | 33 | 1 | 3% | −9.2 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −12.2 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 19 | 0 | 0% | −12.2 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 14 | 0 | 0% | −12.2 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1,213 | 146 | 12% | −0.2 | 0 from 1 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 1,898 | 243 | 12.8% | +0.6 | 0 from 3 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 1,967 | 229 | 11.6% | −0.6 | 3 from 9 |
| Over 3m | 535 | 69 | 12.9% | +0.7 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
6 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Forever Gold (IRE) (4 wins).
The wins came over 2m5f–3m5f; the highest grade won is Class 1 (Forever Gold (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Forever Gold (IRE) | 53 | 4 | 2m5f–3m5f | Class 1 |
| Saddler's Lass (IRE) | 12 | 0 | — | — |
| Thefruitman (IRE) | 8 | 0 | — | — |
| Forever Charmer (IRE) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
| Forever Smiling (IRE) | 7 | 0 | — | — |
| Forever On Fire (IRE) | 7 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 7 | 1 | 14% | +4.00 |
| Good | 3 | 2 | 67% | +9.00 |
| Heavy | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fairyhouse | 4 | 1 | 25% | −1.00 |
| Punchestown | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Navan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Thurles | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Galway | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Down Royal | 1 | 1 | 100% | +10.00 |
| Bellewstown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tramore | 1 | 1 | 100% | +8.00 |
| Wexford | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m5f – 3m | 9 | 3 | 33% | +14.00 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Phillip Enright | 5 | 1 | 20% | +4.00 |
| A E Lynch | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Robbie Moran | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Robbie Colgan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ger Fox | 1 | 1 | 100% | +2.00 |
| Davy Russell | 1 | 1 | 100% | +10.00 |
| Paul Townend | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 11 | 3 | 27% | +12.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2015 | 7 | 1 | 14% | −4.00 |
| 2014 | 3 | 2 | 67% | +17.00 |
| 2013 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 11 | 3 | 27% | +12.00 |
| Chase | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has Never Said That won?
- Never Said That (IRE) won 3 of 13 archived starts between 2013 and 2015, a strike rate of 23.1%. Placed 5 times in total (38.5% of starts).
- Who trained Never Said That?
- Never Said That (IRE) was trained by Edward Cawley on the most recent run on record, at Navan on 13 December 2015.
- Who is Never Said That's sire?
- Never Said That (IRE) is by Gold Well (GB) out of Clonbrook Lass (IRE), whose sire is Lord Americo.
- What going does Never Said That prefer?
- Never Said That (IRE) has the best record on good going: 2 wins from 3 starts (66.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Never Said That's official rating?
- Never Said That (IRE)'s highest official rating on record is 112.
- What is Never Said That's sire's record?
- Gold Well (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.2% of 5,648 runs since Jan 2008 (363 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Never Said That's siblings?
- Out of Clonbrook Lass (IRE), Never Said That (IRE) has 6 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Forever Gold (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Class 1 (Forever Gold (IRE)). The wins came over 2m5f–3m5f. As at Oct 2026.