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Horse profile

No Second Thoughts (IRE)

3yo filly (at last run, Dec 2014) · Last trainer James G Sheehan · Last owner Ms V Hancock
by Oratorio (IRE) out of Margot (GB) (Sadler's Wells)
11 runs · 9 courses · from Aug 2013
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 28 Dec 2014 — 4,315 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Dec 2014 Headgear returns LTO
KTB Profile

No Second Thoughts (IRE) is yet to win from 11 starts.

Based on 11 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 80C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Gowran Park, 22 Nov 2014

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 27C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Yarmouth, 11 Jun 2014 Official rating 45 at the last flat run, 11 Jun 2014

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 80C · median 79
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Soft1———
Heavy1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m380C79—
Flat 7 figures · best 43C · median 28
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good to Firm228C27.5—
Good243C35—
Standard (AW)236C35—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
6f – 7f443C32—
1m – 1m1f234C30.5—
1m5f – 2m1———

Of 11 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 10 figures from 11 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 10.6% of 5,063 runs since Jan 2008 (370 horses).

Weakest on good to soft going: 7.3% from 455.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm44715.9%+5.3—
Good to Firm870869.9%−0.70 from 2
Good1,010929.1%−1.50 from 3
Good to Soft455337.3%−3.30 from 1
Soft7027610.8%+0.20 from 1
Heavy215219.8%−0.80 from 2
Standard (AW)1,76522012.5%+1.90 from 2
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f791012.7%+2.1—
6f – 7f1,35013610.1%−0.50 from 4
1m – 1m1f1,50517611.7%+1.10 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f1,36914210.4%−0.2—
1m5f – 2m545499%−1.60 from 5
2m1f – 2m4f1682011.9%+1.3—
2m5f – 3m3912.6%−8—
Over 3m8112.5%+1.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Margot (GB) (Sadler's Wells)

6 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Strolling Home (IRE) (4 wins).

The wins came over 7f–2m7f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Strolling Home (IRE)4042m–2m7f—
Jackmel (IRE)3247f–1m—
Priors Coppice (GB)40——
Im Waiting (IRE)210——
Mesmerized (IRE)90——
Gusher (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 3 0 0% −3.00
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Standard (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 5 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Yarmouth 2 0 0% −2.00
Lingfield 2 0 0% −2.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00
Stratford 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Lingfield (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Salisbury 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 5 0 0% −5.00
6f – 7f 4 0 0% −4.00
1m – 1m1f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Patrick Corbett 2 0 0% −2.00
Patrick Mangan 1 0 0% −1.00
Jack Quinlan 1 0 0% −1.00
Noel Garbutt 1 0 0% −1.00
M J Kenneally 1 0 0% −1.00
Ryan Powell 1 0 0% −1.00
Fergus Sweeney 1 0 0% −1.00
Liam Keniry 1 0 0% −1.00
Kirsty Milczarek 1 0 0% −1.00
William Twiston-Davies 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 7 0 0% −7.00
Blinkers 2 0 0% −2.00
Cheekpieces 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2014 7 0 0% −7.00
2013 4 0 0% −4.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 7 0 0% −7.00
Hurdle 4 0 0% −4.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
28 Dec 14+8d Limerick Irish Field 3-y-o Maiden Hurdle 16f · Heavy · 9 ran PU/9 — 10-2 —— Patrick Corbett 100/1
20 Dec 14+28d Fairyhouse Book Online At Fairyhouse.ie 3-y-o Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft · 15 ran 13/15 1¼ 10-7 —79C Patrick Mangan 100/1
22 Nov 14+132d Gowran Park Santa Train Bookings At www.gowranpark.ie 3-y-o Maiden Hurdle 16f · Heavy · 20 ran 15/20 1¼ 10-2 —80C Patrick Corbett 100/1
13 Jul 14+32d Stratford Birmingham Mail Juvenile Hurdle Class 4 · 16.5f · Good · 12 ran 6/12 8 10-2 —79C Jack Quinlan 150/1
11 Jun 14+6d Yarmouth Eastern Daily Press Handicap Class 5 · 14f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 6/7 13 7-11 4527C Noel Garbutt 100/1
05 Jun 14+13d Lingfield 32Red Tomb Raider Slot Handicap Class 6 · 9f · Good · 13 ran 10/13 17 8-0 4527C M J Kenneally 50/1
23 May 14+234d Yarmouth Norfolk Chamber Of Commerce Handicap Class 6 · 7f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 8/11 6 8-4 4518C Ryan Powell 50/1
01 Oct 13+28d Kempton (AW) Kempton Park Reindeer Racing Christmas Parties Maiden Auction Stakes (Div 1) Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 11 ran 10/11 8 8-8 2536C Fergus Sweeney 100/1
03 Sep 13+19d Lingfield (AW) Breathe Spa At Lingfield Marriott Maiden Auction Stakes (AWT) Class 5 · 8f · Standard · 12 ran 10/12 3¼ 8-10 —34C Liam Keniry 33/1
15 Aug 13+12d Salisbury totesuperscoop6 Available At The Ebor Festival Maiden Auction Stakes (Div 2) Class 5 · 7f · Good · 11 ran 8/11 5 8-6 —43C Kirsty Milczarek 100/1
03 Aug 13 Lingfield Danny And Pip's 30th Anniversary Median Auction Maiden Stakes Class 6 · 7.5f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 10/10 1½ 8-11 —28C William Twiston-Davies 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has No Second Thoughts (IRE) won?
No Second Thoughts (IRE) has yet to win, from 11 archived starts between 2013 and 2014.
Who trained No Second Thoughts (IRE)?
No Second Thoughts (IRE) was trained by James G Sheehan on the most recent run on record, at Limerick on 28 December 2014.
Who is No Second Thoughts (IRE)'s sire?
No Second Thoughts (IRE) is by Oratorio (IRE) out of Margot (GB), whose sire is Sadler's Wells.
What is No Second Thoughts (IRE)'s official rating?
No Second Thoughts (IRE)'s highest official rating on record is 45.
What is No Second Thoughts (IRE)'s sire's record?
Oratorio (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.6% of 5,063 runs since Jan 2008 (370 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to soft going: 7.3% from 455.
Who are No Second Thoughts (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Margot (GB), No Second Thoughts (IRE) has 6 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Strolling Home (IRE) (4). The wins came over 7f–2m7f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from August 2013. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.