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Horse profile

Not For You (IRE)

10yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2018) · Last trainer C Byrnes · Last owner Byrnsey Boys Syndicate
by Beneficial (GB) out of Bonnie Thynes (IRE) (Good Thyne)
23 runs · 14 courses · from Feb 2013
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 5 Sep 2018 — 2,968 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2018 2 wins · Killarney & Wexford Last raced off OR 105
KTB Profile

Not For You (IRE) is 2 from 23. Hasn't won since Jul 2018. Last raced off a career-high mark of 105.

Based on 23 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR at career high
Official rating105At career-high mark
105 88–105

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 117 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Killarney, 14 May 2017

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 6 figures · best 117B · median 79.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good4117B79.5—
Good to Soft1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f5117B98—
Over 3m1———

Of 9 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (3).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 9 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 115A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Killarney, 19 Jul 2018 Official rating 105 at the last run, 5 Sep 2018

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 18 figures · best 138A · median 107
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good7121A109—
Soft5138A106—
Heavy5121A102—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f10121A103—
1m5f – 2m6138A105.5—
Over 3m2109A108.5—

Of 23 runs looked at, 5 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (5).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 18 figures from 23 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Beneficial (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 17,043 runs since Jan 2008 (1,155 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm6657.6%−2.9—
Good to Firm93910711.4%+0.9—
Good5,29554910.4%−0.11 from 11
Good to Soft2,46626710.8%+0.30 from 1
Soft5,05751910.3%−0.21 from 6
Heavy3,15932810.4%−0.10 from 5
Standard (AW)6169.8%−0.7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f200%−10.5—
1m – 1m1f10110%−0.5—
1m2f – 1m4f6457.8%−2.7—
1m5f – 2m4,89050210.3%−0.21 from 7
2m1f – 2m4f6,35566110.4%−0.11 from 13
2m5f – 3m4,70052211.1%+0.60 from 1
Over 3m1,022908.8%−1.70 from 2

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Bonnie Thynes (IRE) (Good Thyne)

3 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Ruben Cotter (IRE) (4 wins).

The wins came over 2m½f–3m2f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Ruben Cotter (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Ruben Cotter (IRE)1942m3½f–3m2fClass 2
Leading Authority (IRE)2342m1f–3m1½fClass 3
General Kutuzov (IRE)1932m½f–2m5fClass 4

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 11 1 9% −2.00
Soft 6 1 17% −4.38
Heavy 5 0 0% −5.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Killarney 4 1 25% +5.00
Wexford 3 1 33% −1.38
Listowel 2 0 0% −2.00
Chepstow 2 0 0% −2.00
Naas 2 0 0% −2.00
Limerick 2 0 0% −2.00
Southwell 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00
Clonmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Kilbeggan (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Tipperary 1 0 0% −1.00
Bangor-on-Dee 1 0 0% −1.00
Hexham 1 0 0% −1.00
Thurles 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 13 1 8% −4.00
1m5f – 2m 7 1 14% −5.38
Over 3m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Phillip Enright 4 0 0% −4.00
Davy Russell 4 1 25% −2.38
Robert Jones 4 0 0% −4.00
Paul Moloney 3 0 0% −3.00
Donal McInerney 2 1 50% +7.00
Kevin Brouder 1 0 0% −1.00
A E Lynch 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr Derek O'Connor 1 0 0% −1.00
R Walsh 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr R O Harding 1 0 0% −1.00
Paddy Brennan 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 14 2 14% −3.38
Hood 7 0 0% −7.00
Tongue tie 1 0 0% −1.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2018 5 1 20% +4.00
2017 1 0 0% −1.00
2016 8 0 0% −8.00
2015 1 0 0% −1.00
2014 3 0 0% −3.00
2013 5 1 20% −3.38

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 20 1 5% −11.00
Hurdle 3 1 33% −1.38

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
05 Sep 18+40d Southwell Jigsaw Sports Branding Handicap Chase Class 4 · 24f · Good · 11 ran PU/11 — 11-3 105—— Kevin Brouder 8/1
27 Jul 18+8d Wexford Opel 182 Handicap Chase 20f · Good To Yielding · 9 ran 5/9 4 10-11 1025A94A Donal McInerney 4/1
19 Jul 18+43d Killarney Dawn Omega Milk Handicap Chase (0-102) 20.5f · Good · 15 ran 1/15 11-4 97—115A Donal McInerney 8/1
06 Jun 18+24d Wexford View Results Immediately After Passing The Post With The Brand New BoyleSports App Handicap Chase (0-116) 20f · Good · 9 ran 7/9 4½ 10-12 9861A87A A E Lynch 8/1
13 May 18+364d Killarney Irish Examiner Handicap Chase (0-102) 20.5f · Yielding · 10 ran F/10 — 11-8 98—— Phillip Enright 10/1
14 May 17+213d Killarney Irish Examiner Handicap Chase (0-102) 20.5f · Good · 14 ran 2/14 1½ 11-4 94117B121A Davy Russell 9/2F
13 Oct 16+14d Punchestown Ingoldsby (Q.R.) Handicap Chase 25f · Good · 10 ran 4/10 2¾ 10-13 9450A108A Mr Derek O'Connor 10/3F
29 Sep 16+12d Clonmel Tickincor Handicap Chase (0-102) 18.5f · Good · 14 ran 3/14 5½ 11-4 9498B114A R Walsh 2/1F
17 Sep 16+30d Listowel Chutehall International Ltd. (Q.R.) Handicap Chase 17f · Yielding · 10 ran 2/10 1¾ 10-1 88105A106A Mr R O Harding 5/2F
18 Aug 16+12d Killarney Malton Hotel Handicap Chase (0-102) 20.5f · Good · 14 ran CO/14 — 11-1 88—— Davy Russell 9/4F
06 Aug 16+20d Kilbeggan (IRE) Pig 'N' Whistle Pubs & Restaurants New York Handicap Chase 25f · Good · 14 ran 3/14 7½ 10-12 88—109A Davy Russell 4/1F
17 Jul 16+137d Tipperary Packie Downey Memorial Handicap Chase (0-109) 17f · Good · 15 ran F/15 — 10-7 88—— Phillip Enright 8/1
02 Mar 16+4d Bangor-on-Dee Broxton Gates Handicap Chase Class 4 · 17.5f · Heavy · 6 ran 3/6 2½ 10-1 90—97B Paul Moloney EvensF
27 Feb 16+150d Chepstow Pertemps Network Handicap Chase Class 5 · 16f · Soft · 12 ran 2/12 1½ 11-2 90—125A Paul Moloney 9/4F
30 Sep 15+473d Chepstow Paul's Place Handicap Chase Class 4 · 16f · Good · 8 ran F/8 — 10-11 90—— Paddy Brennan 11/8F
14 Jun 14+126d Hexham Hadrian Healthcare Handicap Chase Class 5 · 15.5f · Good · 9 ran 8/9 69 11-6 94—74C Paul Moloney 7/2
08 Feb 14+23d Naas Tote Account 50 Free Bets Beginners Chase 16f · Soft To Heavy · 16 ran 14/16 15 11-12 ——102C Robert Jones 25/1
16 Jan 14+19d Thurles Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Beginners Chase 16f · Soft · 16 ran 6/16 18 11-12 ——101C Robert Jones 33/1
28 Dec 13+98d Limerick Irish Independent Beginners Chase 17f · Heavy · 13 ran 8/13 2¾ 11-12 ——100C Robert Jones 12/1
21 Sep 13+155d Listowel Allman Contracts Limited Beginners Chase 17f · Yielding To Soft · 16 ran 14/16 14 11-7 ——96C Robert Jones 12/1
19 Apr 13+34d Wexford Ingard Point Maiden Hurdle (Div 2) 16f · Soft · 16 ran 1/16 11-4 ——138A Davy Russell 8/13F
16 Mar 13+20d Limerick Tote Jackpot (c & G) Maiden Hurdle 19f · Heavy · 11 ran 2/11 9 11-12 ——121A Phillip Enright 13/2
24 Feb 13 Naas Paddy Power Dial-A-Bet 1800 721 821 Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft To Heavy · 17 ran 8/17 5½ 11-11 ——109A Phillip Enright 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Not For You (IRE) won?
Not For You (IRE) won 2 of 23 archived starts between 2013 and 2018, a strike rate of 8.7%. Placed 8 times in total (34.8% of starts).
Who trained Not For You (IRE)?
Not For You (IRE) was trained by C Byrnes on the most recent run on record, at Southwell on 5 September 2018.
Who is Not For You (IRE)'s sire?
Not For You (IRE) is by Beneficial (GB) out of Bonnie Thynes (IRE), whose sire is Good Thyne.
What going does Not For You (IRE) prefer?
Not For You (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 1 win from 6 starts (16.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Not For You (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 105, from the run on 5 September 2018. That is also the highest on record.
What is Not For You (IRE)'s sire's record?
Beneficial (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.5% of 17,043 runs since Jan 2008 (1,155 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Not For You (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Bonnie Thynes (IRE), Not For You (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Ruben Cotter (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Ruben Cotter (IRE)). The wins came over 2m½f–3m2f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from February 2013. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.