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Horse profile

Pappa Louis (GB)

3yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2025) · Last trainer Tom Dascombe · Last owner Laurence Bellman
by Showcasing (GB) out of Orange Sun (GB) (Duke Of Marmalade)
13 runs · 10 courses · from May 2024
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 5 Sep 2025 — 411 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2025 · 2nd of 11 Won at Newmarket Last raced off OR 71
KTB Profile

Pappa Louis won the JenningsBet Newmarket Nursery at Class 4 level over 6f – 7f on good to firm in Aug 2024 off a mark of 76. The gelding, who raced 13 times on turf for one win and six places, has not won since. He finished second of 11 in the Betfair Exchange Handicap at Haydock in Sep 2025 off an official rating of 71. His highest ever mark was 78.

Based on 13 archived runs · run-style from 10 commented runs since Aug 2024 · updated 22 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Typically held up Win at Class 4
Official rating71↓ 7lb off peak
71 71–78

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 100 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Haydock, 5 Sep 2025

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 13 figures · best 100A · median 86
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Good7100A86—
Good to Firm596B86—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f5100A86—
6f – 7f596B78—
1m – 1m1f395A92—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 13 figures from 13 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 80A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Haydock, 5 Sep 2025 Official rating 71 at the last run, 5 Sep 2025

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 13 figures · best 85A · median 73
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Good780A63—
Good to Firm585A75—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f580A79—
6f – 7f585A72—
1m – 1m1f373A61—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 13 figures from 13 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style from 10 analysed runs since Aug 2024

  • Held up 7 (70%) · 1 win
  • Mid-division 2 (20%) · 0 wins
  • Prominent 1 (10%) · 0 wins

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 10.2% of 11,587 runs since Jan 2008 (997 horses).

Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 5.6% from 108.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm921010.9%+0.7—
Good to Firm1,9111879.8%−0.41 from 5
Good2,27623210.2%00 from 7
Good to Soft1,13811610.2%0—
Soft1,26013210.5%+0.30 from 1
Heavy323288.7%−1.5—
Standard (AW)4,58747210.3%+0.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f2,27927011.8%+1.6—
6f – 7f5,89663110.7%+0.51 from 5
1m – 1m1f2,1661888.7%−1.50 from 3
1m2f – 1m4f889606.7%−3.50 from 5
1m5f – 2m217156.9%−3.3—
2m1f – 2m4f10865.6%−4.6—
2m5f – 3m24416.7%+6.5—
Over 3m8337.5%+27.3—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Orange Sun (GB) (Duke Of Marmalade)

2 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Almosh'her (GB) (3 wins).

The wins came over 1m–1m4f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Almosh'her (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Almosh'her (GB)731m–1m4fClass 2
Sunnie Jim (GB)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 7 0 0% −7.00
Good to Firm 5 1 20% −2.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 10 1 10% −7.00
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 2 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Haydock 2 0 0% −2.00
Newmarket 2 1 50% +1.00
Salisbury 2 0 0% −2.00
Yarmouth 1 0 0% −1.00
Catterick 1 0 0% −1.00
Epsom Downs 1 0 0% −1.00
Musselburgh 1 0 0% −1.00
Chester 1 0 0% −1.00
Sandown 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m2f – 1m4f 5 0 0% −5.00
6f – 7f 5 1 20% −2.00
1m – 1m1f 3 0 0% −3.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Pierre-Louis Jamin 5 0 0% −5.00
Alistair Rawlinson 3 0 0% −3.00
Jason Hart 1 0 0% −1.00
Rhys Elliott 1 0 0% −1.00
Finley Marsh 1 0 0% −1.00
Billy Loughnane 1 0 0% −1.00
Oisin Murphy 1 1 100% +2.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 5 1 20% −2.00
Cheekpieces 4 0 0% −4.00
Visor 3 0 0% −3.00
Tongue tie + visor 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2025 8 0 0% −8.00
2024 5 1 20% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
05 Sep 25+21d Haydock Betfair Exchange Handicap Class 5 · 11.5f · Good · 11 ran Settled in the pack - urged forward with 2f left - stayed on late to grab second close home - unable to get past the winner 2/11 3¼ 9-4 71100A80A Pierre-Louis Jamin 17/2
15 Aug 25+23d Yarmouth Richard Delf Memorial Handicap Class 5 · 11.5f · Good To Firm · 7 ran Held up early - made ground from 7f out to hit the front over 3f out - lost that advantage inside 2f out - came back at the leader inside the final furlong but couldn't find more - held for 2nd 2/7 1¼ 9-4 7186B80A Pierre-Louis Jamin 8/1
23 Jul 25+21d Catterick Sky Bet Go-Racing-In-Yorkshire Summer Festival Handicap (GBBPlus Race) Class 4 · 12f · Soft · 5 ran Slow into stride and bumped early - settled towards back - improved into 3rd approaching straight - drifted right then left inside final 2f - driven and stayed on late - nabbed 2nd close home but never landed the runner-up spot in time to trouble winner 2/5 3½ 9-0 7275C73B Jason Hart 8/1
02 Jul 25+25d Epsom Downs Betfred 'The Classic Bookmaker' Handicap (GBBPlus Race) Class 4 · 12f · Good · 6 ran Held up at the back - driven approaching final 3f but lost touch - no impression thereafter - finished 5th 5/6 11 8-12 7486C52C Pierre-Louis Jamin 14/1
07 Jun 25+7d Musselburgh Edinburgh Cup Handicap Class 2 · 9f · Good · 8 ran Sluggish start - fought for control early - trailed the field throughout - finished sixth 6/8 1¼ 8-1 7595A61A Rhys Elliott 25/1
31 May 25+21d Chester Going Is Good Handicap (GBBPlus Race) (Div 2) Class 4 · 10.5f · Good · 8 ran Held up towards the back - driven to improve inside final furlong - closed on the front-runner near the finish - unable to get on terms and beaten 3.5 lengths in 2nd 2/8 3½ 9-5 7496A79A Pierre-Louis Jamin 28/1
10 May 25+23d Haydock Pertemps Network Handicap Class 4 · 8f · Good To Firm · 8 ran Settled at the back early - pushed along with 2f left - angled off to the right approaching final furlong - stayed on to snatch 4th close home 4/8 3½ 9-5 7692C73A Finley Marsh 22/1
17 Apr 25+229d Newmarket Never Ordinary At bet365 Handicap Class 4 · 8f · Good · 10 ran Settled towards the stands rail - off the pace throughout - under pressure and finding little from 3f out - beaten a distance into 9th 9/10 6½ 9-2 7785C54C Pierre-Louis Jamin 66/1
31 Aug 24+21d Sandown Sky Bet Acca Freeze Nursery Class 4 · 7f · Good · 9 ran Settled just behind the pace on the rail - pressed for effort inside final furlong and dropped away - finished eighth 8/9 2½ 9-7 7846A63A Billy Loughnane 16/1
10 Aug 24+17d Newmarket JenningsBet Newmarket Nursery Class 4 · 7f · Good To Firm · 4 ran Drifted left and clipped a neighbour at the start - settled towards the back of the field - made progress over 2f out under urgings - picked up approaching the final furlong - nudged to the front near the line - got up to score 1/4 9-2 7678C75B Oisin Murphy 2/1
24 Jul 24+43d Salisbury George Smith Horseboxes British Ebf Novice Stakes Class 4 · 6f · Good To Firm · 8 ran 2/8 1½ 9-2 —96B85A Alistair Rawlinson 66/1
11 Jun 24+25d Salisbury Danny McNab Bookmakers British EBF Restricted Novice Stakes (GBB Race) (Div 1) Class 4 · 6f · Good To Firm · 12 ran 10/12 ¾ 9-4 —78A60A Alistair Rawlinson 16/1
17 May 24 Newbury ARC & Sky Sports Racing Support Starlight Maiden Stakes (GBB Race) Class 4 · 6f · Good · 20 ran 13/20 ¾ 9-7 —60C72A Alistair Rawlinson 8/1

Quick answers

How many races has Pappa Louis (GB) won?
Pappa Louis (GB) won 1 of 13 archived starts between 2024 and 2025, a strike rate of 7.7%. Placed 6 times in total (46.2% of starts).
Who trained Pappa Louis (GB)?
Pappa Louis (GB) was trained by Tom Dascombe on the most recent run on record, at Haydock on 5 September 2025.
Who is Pappa Louis (GB)'s sire?
Pappa Louis (GB) is by Showcasing (GB) out of Orange Sun (GB), whose sire is Duke Of Marmalade.
What going does Pappa Louis (GB) prefer?
Pappa Louis (GB) has the best record on good to firm going: 1 win from 5 starts (20%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Pappa Louis (GB)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 71, from the run on 5 September 2025. The highest on record is 78.
What is Pappa Louis (GB)'s sire's record?
Showcasing (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.2% of 11,587 runs since Jan 2008 (997 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 5.6% from 108.
Who are Pappa Louis (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Orange Sun (GB), Pappa Louis (GB) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Almosh'her (GB) (3). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Almosh'her (GB)). The wins came over 1m–1m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2024. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.