Horse profile
Saxon Lil (IRE)
6yo mare (at last run, Oct 2008) · Last trainer Thomas P O'Connor · Last owner Mama L Papa J Syndicate
by Second Empire (IRE) out of Salva (GB) (Grand Lodge)
33 runs · 18 courses · from Jan 2005
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 23 Oct 2008 — 6,579 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2008 · 13th of 14
6 wins · 5 courses
New yard
Headgear returns LTO
KTB Profile
Saxon Lil (IRE) is 6 from 33. Hasn't won since Aug 2006. All 6 wins have come on turf — 0 from 4 on the all-weather. All 6 wins have come over 6f – 7f.
Based on 33 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance
All wins on turf
- 6–33Wins / Runs
- 18.2%Strike rate
- 13 (39.4%)Placed
- +10.50£1 level staken=33 at SP
- 1.84Fair A/E n=33 · 1.52 incl. margin
- 77Highest OR
- 43dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating71↓ 6lb off peak
71
50–77
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Second Empire (IRE)
Progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 644 runs since Jan 2008 (55 horses).
Strongest on good going: 13.4% from 172. Strongest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 14.9% from 134.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 8 | 0 | 0% | −10.1 | 1 from 3 |
| Good to Firm | 106 | 10 | 9.4% | −0.7 | 3 from 9 |
| Good | 172 | 23 | 13.4% | +3.3 | 1 from 6 |
| Good to Soft | 93 | 9 | 9.7% | −0.4 | 1 from 7 |
| Soft | 127 | 12 | 9.4% | −0.7 | 0 from 3 |
| Heavy | 48 | 2 | 4.2% | −5.9 | 0 from 1 |
| Standard (AW) | 90 | 9 | 10% | −0.1 | 0 from 4 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 4 | 0 | 0% | −10.1 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 156 | 12 | 7.7% | −2.4 | 6 from 27 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 62 | 3 | 4.8% | −5.3 | 0 from 4 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 28 | 0 | 0% | −10.1 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 179 | 21 | 11.7% | +1.6 | 0 from 1 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 134 | 20 | 14.9% | +4.8 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 69 | 8 | 11.6% | +1.5 | — |
| Over 3m | 12 | 1 | 8.3% | −1.8 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Dam
Salva (GB) (Grand Lodge)
4 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Mash Potato (IRE) (5 wins).
The wins came over 5f–2m5f; the highest grade won is Group 3 (Philario (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mash Potato (IRE) | 65 | 5 | 1m–2m5f | Class 5 |
| Philario (IRE) | 23 | 3 | 5f–1m | Group 3 |
| Battling Lil (IRE) | 8 | 0 | — | — |
| Salorpen (IRE) | 12 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 9 | 3 | 33% | +12.00 |
| Good to Soft | 7 | 1 | 14% | +4.00 |
| Good | 6 | 1 | 17% | +2.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Soft | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Firm | 3 | 1 | 33% | +0.50 |
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 5 | 13 | 4 | 31% | +13.50 |
| Class 4 | 12 | 1 | 8% | −4.00 |
| Class 6 | 6 | 1 | 17% | +3.00 |
| Class 3 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Lingfield | 4 | 1 | 25% | +5.00 |
| Leicester | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Beverley | 3 | 2 | 67% | +16.00 |
| Newbury | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Warwick | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Folkestone | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Lingfield (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Catterick | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Sandown | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Brighton | 2 | 1 | 50% | +1.50 |
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Thurles | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Thirsk | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Goodwood | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Redcar | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Chepstow | 1 | 1 | 100% | +4.00 |
| Doncaster | 1 | 1 | 100% | +6.00 |
| Nottingham | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 27 | 6 | 22% | +16.50 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Steve Drowne | 10 | 2 | 20% | +0.50 |
| Sam Hitchcott | 8 | 3 | 38% | +14.00 |
| Franny Norton | 5 | 1 | 20% | +6.00 |
| Liam Keniry | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Andrew P Thornton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Kerrin McEvoy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Robbie Fitzpatrick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Chris Catlin | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ben Swarbrick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jamie Spencer | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Lisa Jones | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Richard Kingscote | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 31 | 6 | 19% | +12.50 |
| Cheekpieces | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2008 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2006 | 14 | 1 | 7% | −3.00 |
| 2005 | 18 | 5 | 28% | +14.50 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 32 | 6 | 19% | +11.50 |
| Hurdle | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2008 · 1 run | |||||||||
| 23 Oct 08+744d | Thurles | Cashel Maiden Hurdle | 13/14 | 13 | 11-0 | — | 75C | Andrew P Thornton | 16/1 |
| 2006 · 14 runs | |||||||||
| 10 Oct 06+22d | Newbury | Electrolux Professional Handicap | 11/16 | 4 | 9-0 | 71 | 55C | Kerrin McEvoy | 16/1 |
| 18 Sep 06+22d | Leicester | Ladbrokes.com Highfields Handicap | 7/12 | ¾ | 9-5 | 72 | 61C | Franny Norton | 10/1 |
| 27 Aug 06+14d | Beverley | totecourse to course Handicap | 1/16 | 9-7 | 68 | 73C | Franny Norton | 10/1 | |
| 13 Aug 06+9d | Lingfield | Lingfield Park 0870 2200022 Handicap | 6/8 | shd | 9-8 | 69 | 58C | Steve Drowne | 4/1 |
| 04 Aug 06+15d | Thirsk | Weatherbys Bank Handicap | 2/15 | ¾ | 9-11 | 68 | 79C | Franny Norton | 14/1 |
| 20 Jul 06+7d | Leicester | Free Tips at gg.com Handicap | 8/10 | 1 | 9-0 | 67 | 31C | Steve Drowne | 5/1 |
| 13 Jul 06+16d | Warwick | E.B.F. Fillies' Handicap | 2/9 | 1 | 9-2 | 67 | 66C | Franny Norton | 6/1 |
| 27 Jun 06+4d | Beverley | Y.W.M. Waste Handicap | 6/15 | 1 | 9-11 | 65 | 68C | Franny Norton | 7/2J |
| 23 Jun 06+13d | Goodwood | Peters PLC Fillies' Handicap | 2/7 | 1 | 9-6 | 65 | 45C | Sam Hitchcott | 13/2 |
| 10 Jun 06+7d | Newbury | BBC Radio Berkshire Fillies' Handicap | 10/14 | hd | 9-8 | 67 | 50C | Liam Keniry | 8/1 |
| 03 Jun 06+9d | Folkestone | intercasino.co.uk Handicap | 6/9 | ¾ | 8-12 | 69 | 56C | Sam Hitchcott | 6/1 |
| 25 May 06+43d | Lingfield (AW) | Arena Leisure PLC Fillies' Handicap | 7/7 | 3 | 10-0 | 72 | — | Steve Drowne | 16/1 |
| 12 Apr 06+6d | Catterick | Gods Solution Handicap | 12/16 | hd | 9-4 | 75 | 56C | Robbie Fitzpatrick | 25/1 |
| 06 Apr 06+195d | Leicester | Levy Board Handicap | 11/16 | 9 | 8-10 | 75 | 47C | Steve Drowne | 25/1 |
| 2005 · 18 runs | |||||||||
| 23 Sep 05+34d | Lingfield | Betfredcasino.com Handicap | 6/15 | nk | 8-9 | 76 | 52C | Steve Drowne | 14/1 |
| 20 Aug 05+10d | Redcar | 'Best Dressed Lady' Handicap | 9/12 | 2½ | 8-13 | 76 | 48C | Sam Hitchcott | 8/1 |
| 10 Aug 05+14d | Sandown | Sterling Handicap | 3/8 | 2½ | 8-8 | 77 | 55C | Steve Drowne | 8/1 |
| 27 Jul 05+5d | Sandown | Bristol & West Property Finance Handicap | 3/10 | ½ | 8-7 | 71 | 75C | Sam Hitchcott | 7/1 |
| 22 Jul 05+4d | Chepstow | 32red Online Casino Handicap | 1/17 | 10-0 | 74 | 83C | Sam Hitchcott | 4/1J | |
| 18 Jul 05+20d | Beverley | MKM Building Supplies Handicap | 1/8 | 8-11 | 68 | 65C | Sam Hitchcott | 7/1 | |
| 28 Jun 05+3d | Brighton | Bet365 Call 08000 322 365 Handicap | 1/9 | 9-2 | 65 | 60C | Steve Drowne | 5/2J | |
| 25 Jun 05+7d | Doncaster | Branton Fillies' Handicap | 1/15 | 8-6 | 60 | 73C | Steve Drowne | 6/1 | |
| 18 Jun 05+9d | Lingfield | Listen To The Band After Racing Handicap | 4/12 | nk | 8-6 | 59 | 69C | Chris Catlin | 6/1 |
| 09 Jun 05+5d | Brighton | Rendezvous Casino At Brighton Marina Handicap | 3/18 | ¾ | 9-1 | 57 | 53C | Ben Swarbrick | 11/2J |
| 04 Jun 05+30d | Lingfield | Entertain At Lingfield Handicap | 1/18 | 9-4 | 51 | 73C | Sam Hitchcott | 8/1 | |
| 05 May 05+15d | Folkestone | United Hunts Handicap | 4/13 | 1½ | 8-9 | 51 | 56C | Steve Drowne | 11/2 |
| 20 Apr 05+4d | Catterick | Levy Board Spring Handicap | 5/17 | 2 | 8-10 | 52 | 48C | Jamie Spencer | 4/1F |
| 16 Apr 05+18d | Nottingham | Midlands Racing Handicap | 6/16 | ½ | 8-4 | 52 | 48C | Liam Keniry | 5/1 |
| 29 Mar 05+38d | Warwick | Kineton Handicap | 3/14 | ½ | 8-8 | 50 | 37C | Steve Drowne | 16/1 |
| 19 Feb 05+24d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Maiden Stakes | 8/12 | 7 | 7-12 | 53 | 15C | Lisa Jones | 33/1 |
| 26 Jan 05+16d | Lingfield (AW) | Bet Direct Handicap | 13/14 | 9 | 8-8 | 58 | 27C | Sam Hitchcott | 20/1 |
| 10 Jan 05 | Wolverhampton (AW) | Maiden Stakes (Div 2) | 5/12 | ¾ | 7-9 | — | 77C | Richard Kingscote | 11/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Saxon Lil won?
- Saxon Lil (IRE) won 6 of 33 archived starts between 2005 and 2008, a strike rate of 18.2%. Placed 13 times in total (39.4% of starts).
- Who trained Saxon Lil?
- Saxon Lil (IRE) was trained by Thomas P O'Connor on the most recent run on record, at Thurles on 23 October 2008.
- Who is Saxon Lil's sire?
- Saxon Lil (IRE) is by Second Empire (IRE) out of Salva (GB), whose sire is Grand Lodge.
- What going does Saxon Lil prefer?
- Saxon Lil (IRE) has the best record on good to firm going: 3 wins from 9 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Saxon Lil's official rating?
- Saxon Lil (IRE)'s highest official rating on record is 77.
- What is Saxon Lil's sire's record?
- Second Empire (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 644 runs since Jan 2008 (55 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good going: 13.4% from 172. Strongest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 14.9% from 134.
- Who are Saxon Lil's siblings?
- Out of Salva (GB), Saxon Lil (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Mash Potato (IRE) (5). Highest grade won: Group 3 (Philario (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–2m5f. As at Oct 2026.