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Horse profile

Talking Hands (GB)

3yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2009) · Last trainer Sylvester Kirk · Last owner Deauville Daze Partnership
by Mujahid (USA) out of With Distinction (GB) (Zafonic)
13 runs · 9 courses · from May 2008
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 19 Sep 2009 — 6,234 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2009 · 20th of 20 3 wins · Ascot & Wolverhampton (AW) Last raced off OR 94
KTB Profile

Talking Hands (GB) is 3 from 13, including a Listed win. The biggest win we hold: the Andrex Winkfield Stakes at Ascot (Jul 2008). Hasn't won since Jul 2008. All 3 wins have come over 6f – 7f. Last raced off 94, 12lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 13 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 12lb off peak
Official rating94↓ 12lb off peak
94 81–106

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Sep 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 72A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Kempton (AW), 18 Mar 2009 Official rating 94 at the last run, 19 Sep 2009

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Flat 13 figures · best 101A · median 81
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)491A84.5—
Good to Firm387B63—
Good to Soft387A77—
Good284A71.5—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
6f – 7f9101A87—
1m – 1m1f381B77—
1m2f – 1m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 13 figures from 13 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Mujahid (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 2,375 runs since Jan 2008 (131 horses).

Weakest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 6.3% from 333.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm39615.4%+5.7—
Good to Firm4705411.5%+1.81 from 3
Good535448.2%−1.50 from 2
Good to Soft242208.3%−1.41 from 3
Soft263197.2%−2.50 from 1
Heavy8433.6%−6.1—
Standard (AW)7428411.3%+1.61 from 4
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f199168%−1.7—
6f – 7f7027210.3%+0.63 from 9
1m – 1m1f5436211.4%+1.70 from 3
1m2f – 1m4f333216.3%−3.40 from 1
1m5f – 2m334298.7%−1—
2m1f – 2m4f1992311.6%+1.9—
2m5f – 3m58610.3%+0.6—
Over 3m7114.3%+4.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
With Distinction (GB) (Zafonic)

7 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them The Craftymaster (GB) (12 wins).

The wins came over 5f–2m½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Palladius (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
The Craftymaster (GB)49121m6f–2m½fClass 5
Herbert Crescent (GB)3927f–1mClass 6
Palladius (GB)1315fClass 4
Royal Distinction (GB)60——
World Without End (GB)40——
Rose Zafonic (GB)20——
Talking Back (GB)60——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 4 1 25% −2.50
Good to Firm 3 1 33% +2.50
Good to Soft 3 1 33% +2.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 2 5 0 0% −5.00
Class 1 4 1 25% +1.50
Class 5 2 1 50% −0.50
Class 3 1 1 100% +4.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Ascot 3 2 67% +7.50
Newbury 2 0 0% −2.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 2 1 50% −0.50
Goodwood 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Chelmsford (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Sandown 1 0 0% −1.00
Ripon 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 9 3 33% +3.00
1m – 1m1f 3 0 0% −3.00
1m2f – 1m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Jamie Spencer 4 2 50% +6.50
George Baker 2 0 0% −2.00
Ted Durcan 1 0 0% −1.00
Liam Keniry 1 0 0% −1.00
Richard Hughes 1 0 0% −1.00
Adam Kirby 1 0 0% −1.00
Paul Hanagan 1 0 0% −1.00
Seb Sanders 1 1 100% +0.50
Hadden Frost 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2009 3 0 0% −3.00
2008 10 3 30% +2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
19 Sep 09+20d Newbury John Smith's Heritage Handicap Class 2 · 10f · Good To Firm · 20 ran 20/20 11 8-13 9463C Ted Durcan 100/1
30 Aug 09+165d Goodwood Turftv.co.uk Handicap Class 2 · 7f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 10/10 7 8-10 9449C Liam Keniry 33/1
18 Mar 09+158d Kempton (AW) Kentucky Derby Challenge Stakes (Conditions Stakes) Class 2 · 9f · Standard · 14 ran 11/14 hd 9-3 9772A George Baker 25/1
11 Oct 08+14d Ascot Deloitte Autumn Stakes (Group 3) (Round) Class 1 · 8f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 6/8 2½ 9-0 9477A Richard Hughes 14/1
27 Sep 08+16d Chelmsford (AW) New Holland Thoroughbred Open Juvenile (Conditions Stakes) Class 2 · 8f · Standard · 6 ran 3/6 2¾ 9-0 10681B Jamie Spencer 3/1
11 Sep 08+12d Doncaster Weatherbys Insurance 300,000 2-y-o Stakes Class 2 · 6.5f · Soft · 21 ran 5/21 nk 8-9 94101A Jamie Spencer 7/1
30 Aug 08+5d Sandown betinternet.Com Solario Stakes (Group 3) Class 1 · 7f · Good · 11 ran 4/11 1¼ 9-0 9484A Adam Kirby 25/1
25 Aug 08+30d Ripon Ripon Champion Two Yrs Old Trophy, 2008 (Listed) Class 1 · 6f · Good To Soft · 6 ran 5/6 6 9-5 9460B Paul Hanagan 4/1
26 Jul 08+14d Ascot Andrex Winkfield Stakes (Listed) Class 1 · 7f · Good To Firm · 6 ran 1/6 9-2 9787B Jamie Spencer 9/2
12 Jul 08+12d Ascot Kelly Group Nursery Handicap Class 3 · 6f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 1/7 9-2 8187A Jamie Spencer 4/1
30 Jun 08+7d Wolverhampton (AW) E.B.F. Register Now at betdaqpoker.co.uk Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 7f · Standard · 11 ran 1/11 9-3 9788A Seb Sanders 1/2F
23 Jun 08+38d Wolverhampton (AW) betdaq.co.uk E.B.F. Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Standard · 9 ran 2/9 ½ 8-12 9791A Hadden Frost 7/1
16 May 08 Newbury Sanderson Weatherall Maiden Stakes (Div 1) Class 4 · 6f · Good · 13 ran 7/13 1½ 9-3 9459A George Baker 12/1

Quick answers

How many races has Talking Hands (GB) won?
Talking Hands (GB) won 3 of 13 archived starts between 2008 and 2009, a strike rate of 23.1%. Placed 4 times in total (30.8% of starts).
Who trained Talking Hands (GB)?
Talking Hands (GB) was trained by Sylvester Kirk on the most recent run on record, at Newbury on 19 September 2009.
Who is Talking Hands (GB)'s sire?
Talking Hands (GB) is by Mujahid (USA) out of With Distinction (GB), whose sire is Zafonic.
What going does Talking Hands (GB) prefer?
Talking Hands (GB) has the best record on good to firm going: 1 win from 3 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Talking Hands (GB)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 94, from the run on 19 September 2009. The highest on record is 106.
What is Talking Hands (GB)'s sire's record?
Mujahid (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 2,375 runs since Jan 2008 (131 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 6.3% from 333.
Who are Talking Hands (GB)'s siblings?
Out of With Distinction (GB), Talking Hands (GB) has 7 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: The Craftymaster (GB) (12). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Palladius (GB)). The wins came over 5f–2m½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.