There And Then (GB)
There And Then (GB) is 2 from 14. Hasn't won since Apr 2011. Each win came on a first visit to the course.
- 2–14Wins / Runs
- 14.3%Strike rate
- 4 (28.6%)Placed
- +19.50£1 level staken=14 at SP
- 1.71Fair A/E n=14 · 1.49 incl. margin
- 117Highest OR
- 64dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 1,578 runs since Jan 2008 (124 horses).
Weakest on soft going: 4.1% from 217. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 4.6% from 151.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 18 | 2 | 11.1% | +1.9 | — |
| Good to Firm | 258 | 23 | 8.9% | −0.3 | 0 from 1 |
| Good | 365 | 35 | 9.6% | +0.4 | 1 from 5 |
| Good to Soft | 193 | 22 | 11.4% | +2.2 | 0 from 2 |
| Soft | 217 | 9 | 4.1% | −5.1 | 0 from 3 |
| Heavy | 84 | 10 | 11.9% | +2.7 | 0 from 2 |
| Standard (AW) | 443 | 44 | 9.9% | +0.7 | 1 from 1 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 53 | 8 | 15.1% | +5.9 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 151 | 7 | 4.6% | −4.6 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 209 | 15 | 7.2% | −2 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 522 | 62 | 11.9% | +2.7 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 391 | 35 | 9% | −0.2 | 2 from 3 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 174 | 12 | 6.9% | −2.3 | 0 from 8 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 71 | 6 | 8.5% | −0.7 | 0 from 3 |
| Over 3m | 7 | 0 | 0% | −9.2 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
7 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Cousin Khee (GB) (12 wins).
The wins came over 1m4f–2m2½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Cousin Khee (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cousin Khee (GB) | 75 | 12 | 1m4f–2m2½f | Class 4 |
| Brother Khee (GB) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
| Collateral (GB) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
| Coup D'oeil (GB) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
| Cosimo Primo (GB) | 6 | 0 | — | — |
| Inigo Montoya (GB) | 7 | 0 | — | — |
| Millie Khee (GB) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 5 | 1 | 20% | +21.00 |
| Soft | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Heavy | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 1 | 1 | 100% | +6.50 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 11 | 1 | 9% | −3.50 |
| Class 3 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class 5 | 1 | 1 | 100% | +25.00 |
| Class 6 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Towcester | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Fontwell | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Exeter | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Chepstow | 1 | 1 | 100% | +25.00 |
| Kempton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Hereford | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Southwell (AW) | 1 | 1 | 100% | +6.50 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 3 | 2 | 67% | +30.50 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Andrew Thornton | 7 | 1 | 14% | +19.00 |
| Miss C L Brown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Noel Fehily | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Danny Mullins | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Wayne Kavanagh | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Barry Keniry | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Mr Darren O'Keeffe | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Dougie Costello | 1 | 1 | 100% | +6.50 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 13 | 2 | 15% | +20.50 |
| Visor | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2012 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| 2011 | 8 | 1 | 13% | +18.00 |
| 2010 | 1 | 1 | 100% | +6.50 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 7 | 1 | 14% | +19.00 |
| Chase | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| NH Flat | 2 | 1 | 50% | +5.50 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has There And Then won?
- There And Then (GB) won 2 of 14 archived starts between 2010 and 2012, a strike rate of 14.3%. Placed 4 times in total (28.6% of starts).
- Who trained There And Then?
- There And Then (GB) was trained by Seamus Mullins on the most recent run on record, at Towcester on 22 May 2012.
- Who is There And Then's sire?
- There And Then (GB) is by Where Or When (IRE) out of Cugina (GB), whose sire is Distant Relative.
- What going does There And Then prefer?
- There And Then (GB) has the best record on good going: 1 win from 5 starts (20%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is There And Then's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 112, from the run on 22 May 2012. The highest on record is 117.
- What is There And Then's sire's record?
- Where Or When (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 1,578 runs since Jan 2008 (124 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on soft going: 4.1% from 217. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 4.6% from 151.
- Who are There And Then's siblings?
- Out of Cugina (GB), There And Then (GB) has 7 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Cousin Khee (GB) (12). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Cousin Khee (GB)). The wins came over 1m4f–2m2½f. As at Oct 2026.