We'llhavewan (IRE)
We'llhavewan won six of 25 starts on turf, including a Listed handicap hurdle at Navan over 3m on heavy ground in Dec 2023. He gained five of those wins in handicaps, with two over 1m5f – 2m and two over 2m5f – 3m, three on soft and two on good. The gelding, aged 9 at his last run in Dec 2024, finished second of four having led in a Class 5 selling handicap hurdle at Market Rasen. He last won in Dec 2023.
- 6–25Wins / Runs
- 24%Strike rate
- 8 (32%)Placed
- +45.68£1 level staken=25 at SP
- 1.76Fair A/E n=25 · 1.42 incl. margin
- 135Highest OR
- 60dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 158
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was.
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 15 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 5 | 100B | 86 | — |
| Soft | 5 | 138A | 85 | — |
| Good to Soft | 4 | 128C | 94 | — |
| Heavy | 3 | 158B | 77 | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 15 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m5f – 3m | 6 | 138A | 107.5 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 5 | 100B | 77 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 4 | 86C | 68.5 | — |
| Over 3m | 2 | 158B | 95.5 | — |
Of 25 runs looked at, 8 have no figure: did not complete (4) · obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (2) · not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (2).
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 17 figures from 25 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style from 3 analysed runs
- Led 1 (33%) · 0 wins
- Prominent 1 (33%) · 0 wins
- Held up 1 (33%) · 0 wins
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 8.3% of 1,584 runs since Jan 2008 (172 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 11 | 4 | 36.4% | +28.1 | — |
| Good | 488 | 47 | 9.6% | +1.3 | 2 from 8 |
| Good to Soft | 328 | 26 | 7.9% | −0.4 | 0 from 4 |
| Soft | 533 | 42 | 7.9% | −0.4 | 3 from 8 |
| Heavy | 217 | 12 | 5.5% | −2.8 | 1 from 5 |
| Standard (AW) | 7 | 0 | 0% | −8.3 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 1 | 1 | 100% | +91.7 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 456 | 32 | 7% | −1.3 | 2 from 7 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 610 | 42 | 6.9% | −1.4 | 1 from 6 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 432 | 45 | 10.4% | +2.1 | 2 from 7 |
| Over 3m | 85 | 11 | 12.9% | +4.6 | 1 from 5 |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 15 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
4 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Wouldubewell (IRE) (4 wins).
The wins came over 2m–3m2f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Wouldubewell (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wouldubewell (IRE) | 13 | 4 | 2m7½f–3m2f | Class 3 |
| Back Bar (IRE) | 17 | 2 | 2m–2m6½f | Class 5 |
| Red Tortue (IRE) | 15 | 1 | 2m4f | Class 4 |
| Rwegoinhigh (IRE) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 8 | 3 | 38% | +36.93 |
| Good | 8 | 2 | 25% | +6.75 |
| Heavy | 5 | 1 | 20% | +6.00 |
| Good to Soft | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 3 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class 2 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class 5 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class 1 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fairyhouse | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Uttoxeter | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Ballinrobe | 2 | 1 | 50% | +1.75 |
| Galway | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Tipperary | 2 | 1 | 50% | +0.20 |
| Kilbeggan | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Thurles | 2 | 1 | 50% | +39.00 |
| Market Rasen | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sedgefield | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ayr | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Punchestown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Navan | 1 | 1 | 100% | +10.00 |
| Cheltenham | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Killarney | 1 | 1 | 100% | +0.73 |
| Limerick | 1 | 1 | 100% | +10.00 |
| Clonmel | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Naas | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 7 | 2 | 29% | +37.75 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 7 | 2 | 29% | +5.73 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 6 | 1 | 17% | −3.80 |
| Over 3m | 5 | 1 | 20% | +6.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Miss J Townend | 7 | 2 | 29% | +45.00 |
| Paul Townend | 6 | 3 | 50% | +8.93 |
| Kieran Callaghan | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Jamie Hamilton | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Brian Hayes | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Mr P W Mullins | 2 | 1 | 50% | +1.75 |
| Aaron Anderson | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Charlie Maggs | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Mr C Mullins | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tongue tie | 10 | 3 | 30% | −2.32 |
| Tongue tie + cheekpieces | 8 | 3 | 38% | +55.00 |
| None | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Tongue tie + visor | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2024 | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| 2023 | 6 | 3 | 50% | +10.48 |
| 2022 | 7 | 3 | 43% | +47.20 |
| 2021 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 17 | 5 | 29% | +51.48 |
| Chase | 8 | 1 | 13% | −5.80 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 26 Dec 24+32d | Market Rasen | Rand Farm Park Stocking Filler Thriller Selling Handicap Hurdle Set the pace early - pushed along and challenged before two out - overtaken approaching that point - fought back after the last to edge in front near the line - just failed in a photo finish | 2/4 | shd | 11-9 | 125 | 72C | 123B | Aaron Anderson | 5/4 |
| 24 Nov 24+35d | Uttoxeter | Uttoxeter Racecourse New Year's Eve Raceday Handicap Hurdle Handy early - hit front 2nd - sluggish approaching 8th - overtaken and dropped away three out | 6/7 | 6 | 11-5 | 128 | — | 111B | Charlie Maggs | 40/1 |
| 20 Oct 24+14d | Sedgefield | bet365 Durham National Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Raced wide behind the front group - lost touch from the 15th and dropped right out - eased down and pulled up three from home | PU/7 | — | 10-5 | 121 | — | — | Jamie Hamilton | 25/1 |
| 06 Oct 24+132d | Uttoxeter | 4 Oaks Roofing & Facades Handicap Hurdle Sat close to pace early - asked for effort approaching 2 out - dropped away fast after that - finished 5th | 5/5 | ¾ | 12-0 | 135 | 82C | 125B | Jamie Hamilton | 40/1 |
| 27 May 24+37d | Ballinrobe | Mchale Mayo National Handicap Chase (listed) | 12/16 | 7 | 9-9 | 123 | 99C | 98C | Kieran Callaghan | 5/1 |
| 20 Apr 24+19d | Ayr | Coral Scottish Grand National Handicap Chase (Premier Handicap) (GBB Race) | UR/26 | — | 9-11 | 127 | — | — | Kieran Callaghan | 25/1 |
| 01 Apr 24+43d | Fairyhouse | BoyleSports Irish Grand National Chase (Extended Handicap Chase) (Grade 3) | 6/20 | 8 | 9-10 | 123 | 33B | 100A | Kieran Callaghan | 13/2 |
| 18 Feb 24+71d | Punchestown | QuinnBet Grand National Trial Handicap Chase (Listed) | 2/15 | 16 | 10-0 | 115 | 158B | 117A | Paul Townend | 5/4F |
| 09 Dec 23+42d | Navan | Bective Stud, Tea Rooms & Apartments Handicap Hurdle (Listed) | 1/16 | 10-8 | 124 | — | 135A | Paul Townend | 10/1 | |
| 28 Oct 23+63d | Cheltenham | Pertemps Network Handicap Hurdle (GBB Race) | 6/20 | nse | 11-1 | 129 | 116B | 131A | Paul Townend | 11/1 |
| 26 Aug 23+22d | Killarney | International Hotel Handicap Hurdle | 1/7 | 10-7 | 116 | 138A | 131A | Paul Townend | 8/11F | |
| 04 Aug 23+2d | Galway | Guinness Galway Tribes Handicap Hurdle | 9/20 | nse | 10-6 | 116 | — | 121A | Brian Hayes | 11/1 |
| 02 Aug 23+64d | Galway | Tote Always SP Or Better At Galway Handicap Hurdle | 6/20 | 2 | 11-6 | 116 | 128C | 127A | Mr P W Mullins | 13/8F |
| 30 May 23+196d | Ballinrobe | Portwest Handicap Hurdle (80-109) | 1/15 | 11-9 | 104 | 100B | 138A | Mr P W Mullins | 11/4F | |
| 15 Nov 22+43d | Fairyhouse | John Thomas Mcnamara Series (Q.R.) Handicap Hurdle (80-102) | 2/15 | 4½ | 12-2 | 99 | — | 127A | Mr C Mullins | 7/2F |
| 03 Oct 22+31d | Tipperary | Schooling At Tipperary Rated Novice Chase | 4/5 | 28 | 11-7 | 116 | 52C | 100C | Brian Hayes | 13/2 |
| 02 Sep 22+47d | Kilbeggan | Kilsaran Handicap Chase | 7/10 | ¾ | 10-12 | 116 | 31A | 112A | Paul Townend | 15/8F |
| 17 Jul 22+101d | Tipperary | Racing Again August 5th Beginners Chase | 1/12 | 11-12 | — | 85A | 126B | Paul Townend | 6/5F | |
| 07 Apr 22+28d | Limerick | Newcastlewest Handicap Hurdle (80-95) (Div 2) | 1/15 | 11-3 | 89 | 86B | 116A | Miss J Townend | 10/1 | |
| 10 Mar 22+63d | Thurles | Killinan Handicap Hurdle (80-95) | 1/14 | 10-13 | 85 | 85B | 121A | Miss J Townend | 40/1 | |
| 06 Jan 22+21d | Clonmel | Lisronagh Handicap Hurdle (80-95) | PU/13 | — | 11-3 | 87 | — | — | Miss J Townend | 50/1 |
| 16 Dec 21+237d | Naas | Happy Christmas From Naas Racecourse Maiden Hurdle | 12/20 | ¾ | 11-9 | — | 86C | 90C | Miss J Townend | 22/1 |
| 23 Apr 21+55d | Kilbeggan | KilbegganRaces.com Maiden Hurdle (Div 1) | PU/13 | — | 10-13 | — | — | — | Miss J Townend | 14/1 |
| 27 Feb 21+31d | Fairyhouse | Connolly's Red Mills Irish EBF Auction Maiden Hurdle | 7/18 | 2¼ | 11-3 | — | 48C | 85C | Miss J Townend | 50/1 |
| 27 Jan 21 | Thurles | Connolly's RED MILLS Irish EBF Auction Maiden Hurdle | 6/16 | 5½ | 11-3 | — | 77C | 102C | Miss J Townend | 250/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has We'llhavewan (IRE) won?
- We'llhavewan (IRE) won 6 of 25 archived starts between 2021 and 2024, a strike rate of 24%. Placed 8 times in total (32% of starts).
- Who trained We'llhavewan (IRE)?
- We'llhavewan (IRE) was trained by Rebecca Menzies on the most recent run on record, at Market Rasen on 26 December 2024.
- Who is We'llhavewan (IRE)'s sire?
- We'llhavewan (IRE) is by Imperial Monarch (IRE) out of Howrwedoin (IRE), whose sire is Flemensfirth.
- What going does We'llhavewan (IRE) prefer?
- We'llhavewan (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 3 wins from 8 starts (37.5%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is We'llhavewan (IRE)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 125, from the run on 26 December 2024. The highest on record is 135.
- What is We'llhavewan (IRE)'s sire's record?
- Imperial Monarch (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.3% of 1,584 runs since Jan 2008 (172 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are We'llhavewan (IRE)'s siblings?
- Out of Howrwedoin (IRE), We'llhavewan (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Wouldubewell (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Wouldubewell (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–3m2f. As at Oct 2026.