How many races has Whatsforuwontgobyu won?

Whatsforuwontgobyu (IRE) won 3 of 27 archived starts between 2014 and 2018, a strike rate of 11.1%. Placed 4 times in total (14.8% of starts).

Who trained Whatsforuwontgobyu?

Whatsforuwontgobyu (IRE) was trained by Jonjo O'Neill on the most recent run on record, at Leicester on 28 December 2018.

Who is Whatsforuwontgobyu's sire?

Whatsforuwontgobyu (IRE) is by Well Chosen (GB) out of Meadstown Miss (IRE), whose sire is Flemensfirth.

What going does Whatsforuwontgobyu prefer?

Whatsforuwontgobyu (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 2 wins from 16 starts (12.5%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.

What is Whatsforuwontgobyu's official rating?

The most recent official rating on record is 124, from the run on 28 December 2018. The highest on record is 127.

Who are Whatsforuwontgobyu's siblings?

Out of Meadstown Miss (IRE), Whatsforuwontgobyu (IRE) has 7 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Chemical Energy (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Chemical Energy (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–3m½f. As at Nov 2026.

Horse profile

Whatsforuwontgobyu (IRE)

8yo gelding (at last run, Dec 2018) · Last trainer Jonjo O'Neill · Last owner John P Mcmanus

by Well Chosen (GB) out of Meadstown Miss (IRE) (Flemensfirth)

27 runs · 14 courses · from Apr 2014

As at 6 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily

No run recorded since 28 Dec 2018 — 2,869 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.

Last run Dec 2018 · 10th of 11 3 wins · Leopardstown, Galway & Sligo New yard Last raced off OR 124

KTB Profile

Whatsforuwontgobyu (IRE) is 3 from 27. Hasn't won since Dec 2015. All 3 wins have come over 1m5f – 2m.

Based on 27 archived runs · updated 6 Nov 2026

3–27Wins / Runs
11.1%Strike rate
4 (14.8%)Placed
−17.15£1 level staken=27 at SP
1.20Fair A/E n=27 · 0.92 incl. margin
127Highest OR
36dBetween runs (median)longest 392 d

Official rating124↓ 3lb off peak

124 59–127

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed — no A or B graded figure in the last 3 runs; the figures below carry grade C

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Flat 5 figures · best 120^C · median 88

Going	Runs	Best	Median	Since 6 Nov 2025
Good	2	106^C	94.5	—
Soft	2	88^C	64	—
Heavy	1	—	—	—

Distance	Runs	Best	Median	Since 6 Nov 2025
1m2f – 1m4f	3	88^C	83	—
2m1f – 2m4f	2	120^C	113	—

Of 10 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (3) · did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 10 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 108^A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Killarney, 19 Jul 2017 Official rating 124 at the last jumps run, 28 Dec 2018

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 72^A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Killarney, 18 Jul 2018 Official rating 65 at the last flat run, 5 Aug 2018

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 12 figures · best 139^A · median 100

Going	Runs	Best	Median	Since 6 Nov 2025
Soft	8	128^A	100	—
Good	2	108^A	100.5	—
Heavy	1	—	—	—
Good to Soft	1	—	—	—

Distance	Runs	Best	Median	Since 6 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m	9	139^A	102	—
2m5f – 3m	2	108^A	103	—
2m1f – 2m4f	1	—	—	—

Flat 13 figures · best 85^A · median 71

Going	Runs	Best	Median	Since 6 Nov 2025
Soft	8	85^A	64.5	—
Good	3	78^B	72	—
Heavy	1	—	—	—
Good to Soft	1	—	—	—

Distance	Runs	Best	Median	Since 6 Nov 2025
1m2f – 1m4f	5	74^A	71	—
1m5f – 2m	4	85^A	73	—
2m1f – 2m4f	2	78^A	75	—
6f – 7f	1	—	—	—
1m – 1m1f	1	—	—	—

Of 27 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 25 figures from 27 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Well Chosen (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 12.6% of 1,923 runs since Apr 2008 (156 horses).

Going	Runs	Wins	SR	vs sire	This horse
Good to Firm	25	1	4%	−8.6	—
Good	491	61	12.4%	−0.2	0 from 7
Good to Soft	344	40	11.6%	−1	0 from 2
Soft	695	90	12.9%	+0.3	2 from 16
Heavy	360	50	13.9%	+1.3	1 from 2
Standard (AW)	8	1	12.5%	−0.1	—

Distance (all codes)	Runs	Wins	SR	vs sire	This horse
Under 6f	1	0	0%	−12.6	—
6f – 7f	3	0	0%	−12.6	0 from 1
1m – 1m1f	3	0	0%	−12.6	0 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f	14	2	14.3%	+1.7	0 from 5
1m5f – 2m	572	73	12.8%	+0.2	3 from 13
2m1f – 2m4f	695	77	11.1%	−1.5	0 from 4
2m5f – 3m	504	71	14.1%	+1.5	0 from 3
Over 3m	131	20	15.3%	+2.7	—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

Meadstown Miss (IRE) (Flemensfirth)

7 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Chemical Energy (IRE) (6 wins).

The wins came over 2m–3m½f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Chemical Energy (IRE)).

Produce	Runs	Wins	Win trips	Best grade
Chemical Energy (IRE)	28	6	2m–3m½f	Class 2
Marlee Massie (IRE)	29	6	2m4f–2m6½f	Class 4
The Flying Doc (IRE)	18	0	—	—
Jessmae (IRE)	8	0	—	—
Katie's Oscar (IRE)	2	0	—	—
Oscar Town (IRE)	6	0	—	—
Let Them At It (IRE)	2	0	—	—

Record by conditions

Going	Runs	Wins	SR	£1
Soft	16	2	13%	−11.65
Good	7	0	0%	−7.00
Heavy	2	1	50%	+3.50
Good to Soft	2	0	0%	−2.00

Class	Runs	Wins	SR	£1
Class 3	1	0	0%	−1.00

Course	Runs	Wins	SR	£1
Killarney	4	0	0%	−4.00
Leopardstown	4	1	25%	+1.50
Sligo	3	1	33%	−0.90
Punchestown	3	0	0%	−3.00
Galway	2	1	50%	+0.25
Down Royal	2	0	0%	−2.00
Curragh	2	0	0%	−2.00
Leicester	1	0	0%	−1.00
Galway (IRE)	1	0	0%	−1.00
Fairyhouse	1	0	0%	−1.00
Listowel	1	0	0%	−1.00
Gowran Park	1	0	0%	−1.00
Thurles	1	0	0%	−1.00
Navan	1	0	0%	−1.00

Distance	Runs	Wins	SR	£1
1m5f – 2m	13	3	23%	−3.15
1m2f – 1m4f	5	0	0%	−5.00
2m1f – 2m4f	4	0	0%	−4.00
2m5f – 3m	3	0	0%	−3.00
6f – 7f	1	0	0%	−1.00
1m – 1m1f	1	0	0%	−1.00

Jockey	Runs	Wins	SR	£1
Oisin Orr	5	0	0%	−5.00
Mark Walsh	5	1	20%	−2.90
Niall P Madden	4	0	0%	−4.00
Fran Berry	4	1	25%	−1.75
Donagh Meyler	2	0	0%	−2.00
Richie McLernon	1	0	0%	−1.00
Jody McGarvey	1	0	0%	−1.00
N G McCullagh	1	0	0%	−1.00
Barry Geraghty	1	1	100%	+4.50
Emmet McNamara	1	0	0%	−1.00
Tom Madden	1	0	0%	−1.00
Mr J J Codd	1	0	0%	−1.00

Headgear	Runs	Wins	SR	£1
None	22	3	14%	−12.15
Tongue tie	2	0	0%	−2.00
Hood	2	0	0%	−2.00
Cheekpieces	1	0	0%	−1.00

Season	Runs	Wins	SR	£1
2018	5	0	0%	−5.00
2017	5	0	0%	−5.00
2016	3	0	0%	−3.00
2015	8	3	38%	+1.85
2014	6	0	0%	−6.00

Type	Runs	Wins	SR	£1
Hurdle	14	2	14%	−6.40
Flat	13	1	8%	−10.75

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

Date	Course	Race	Pos	Btn	Wgt	OR	Spd	KTB	Jockey	SP
2018 · 5 runs
28 Dec 18+145d	Leicester	Leicestershire Bronze Fox Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 1m7½f · Good · 11 ran	10/11	27	11-11	124	63^C	93^C	Richie McLernon	40/1
05 Aug 18+18d	Galway	JPK Fencing Handicap (50-75) 1m6f · Yielding · 16 ran	12/16	½	9-1	65	—	60^A	Oisin Orr	16/1
18 Jul 18+57d	Killarney	Killarney Park Hotel Handicap 2m1f · Good · 12 ran	6/12	1	9-0	66	106^C	72^A	Oisin Orr	12/1
22 May 18+8d	Sligo	Hyundai Santa Fe Handicap 1m4½f · Yielding · 14 ran	7/14	2½	9-3	69	40^C	66^A	Oisin Orr	11/1
14 May 18+248d	Killarney	Easy Clean Limited Handicap Hurdle 2m6f · Good · 15 ran	PU/15	—	10-12	118	—	—	Jody McGarvey	25/1
2017 · 5 runs
08 Sep 17+34d	Down Royal	West Coast Cooler Fashion Week Ulster Cesarewitch Handicap 2m2f · Soft To Heavy · 15 ran	4/15	2¾	9-4	75	120^C	78^A	Oisin Orr	9/2
05 Aug 17+17d	Galway (IRE)	Galway Shopping Centre Handicap Hurdle 2m7f · Soft · 20 ran	12/20	5½	9-11	122	—	98^C	Niall P Madden	14/1
19 Jul 17+19d	Killarney	Bet Through The Racing Post App Handicap Hurdle 2m6½f · Good · 8 ran	6/8	1¾	11-1	123	—	108^A	Donagh Meyler	7/1
30 Jun 17+19d	Curragh	Hackett Apprentice Derby 1m4f · Good · 19 ran	15/19	nk	9-9	76	83^C	71^A	Oisin Orr	5/1
11 Jun 17+392d	Curragh	www.trm-ireland.com Handicap 1m2f · Soft · 14 ran	6/14	hd	8-11	76	88^C	73^A	N G McCullagh	33/1
2016 · 3 runs
15 May 16+47d	Killarney	Ladbrokes Ireland Handicap Hurdle (grade B) 2m1f · Good · 16 ran	PU/16	—	10-7	125	—	—	Niall P Madden	25/1
29 Mar 16+72d	Fairyhouse	Farmhouse Foods Handicap Hurdle (Grade B) 2m · Yielding · 15 ran	13/15	51	10-3	126	—	91^C	Niall P Madden	20/1
17 Jan 16+20d	Leopardstown	Coral.ie Hurdle (Extended Handicap 0-150) (Grade B) 2m · Soft · 23 ran	8/23	1¼	10-6	127	—	128^A	Mark Walsh	12/1
2015 · 8 runs
28 Dec 15+44d	Leopardstown	Irish Daily Star Christmas Novice Handicap Hurdle 2m · Heavy · 13 ran	1/13		11-4	117	—	139^A	Barry Geraghty	9/2
14 Nov 15+21d	Punchestown	Cavan Supporters Club Supporting Cavan GAA Novice Handicap Hurdle (80-123) 2m · Soft · 11 ran	9/11	5½	11-3	118	—	98^A	Donagh Meyler	8/1
24 Oct 15+37d	Leopardstown	Dr. Walter Halley Lifetime Achievement Handicap 1m4f · Good To Yielding · 20 ran	18/20	½	10-3	83	—	74^A	Fran Berry	8/1
17 Sep 15+46d	Listowel	Ladbrokes Island Handicap Hurdle (Grade B) 2m · Soft · 8 ran	8/8	16	10-8	119	—	77^C	Mark Walsh	9/2
02 Aug 15+74d	Galway	Jpk Fencing Handicap (50-70) 1m6f · Soft · 16 ran	1/16		9-3	59	—	85^A	Fran Berry	5/4F
20 May 15+16d	Sligo	Sligo Gaa Race Day 18th August Maiden Hurdle 2m · Yielding · 11 ran	1/11		11-4	—	—	127^A	Mark Walsh	11/10F
04 May 15+23d	Down Royal	Bet With The Tote Maiden Hurdle 2m · Yielding · 20 ran	4/20	1½	11-4	—	—	126^A	Niall P Madden	40/1
11 Apr 15+135d	Gowran Park	Societies Welcome At Gowran Park Golf Club (C & G) Maiden 7f · Yielding To Soft · 16 ran	8/16	nse	10-0	—	—	63^A	Fran Berry	25/1
2014 · 6 runs
27 Nov 14+32d	Thurles	Cahir Maiden Hurdle 2m · Soft · 18 ran	12/18	15	11-2	—	—	102^C	Mark Walsh	50/1
26 Oct 14+4d	Leopardstown	Download The Tote Mobile App Maiden 1m1f · Yielding · 20 ran	18/20	5	9-9	—	—	53^C	Emmet McNamara	66/1
22 Oct 14+77d	Navan	Bet Online At Thetote.com Maiden 1m5f · Soft · 18 ran	12/18	hd	9-13	—	—	68^C	Fran Berry	20/1
06 Aug 14+63d	Sligo	Sligo Weekender Apprentice Maiden 1m4f · Soft · 10 ran	4/10	7½	9-3	—	—	63^A	Tom Madden	4/1
04 Jun 14+36d	Punchestown	Festival Dreams Begin In Ireland With Irish Thoroughbred Marketing Maiden Hurdle 2m4f · Good To Yielding · 25 ran	10/25	nk	11-4	—	—	84^C	Mark Walsh	5/2J
29 Apr 14	Punchestown	Goffs Land Rover Bumper 2m · Good · 19 ran	3/19	2¼	11-4	—	—	78^B	Mr J J Codd	8/1

Quick answers

How many races has Whatsforuwontgobyu won?: Whatsforuwontgobyu (IRE) won 3 of 27 archived starts between 2014 and 2018, a strike rate of 11.1%. Placed 4 times in total (14.8% of starts).
Who trained Whatsforuwontgobyu?: Whatsforuwontgobyu (IRE) was trained by Jonjo O'Neill on the most recent run on record, at Leicester on 28 December 2018.
Who is Whatsforuwontgobyu's sire?: Whatsforuwontgobyu (IRE) is by Well Chosen (GB) out of Meadstown Miss (IRE), whose sire is Flemensfirth.
What going does Whatsforuwontgobyu prefer?: Whatsforuwontgobyu (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 2 wins from 16 starts (12.5%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Whatsforuwontgobyu's official rating?: The most recent official rating on record is 124, from the run on 28 December 2018. The highest on record is 127.
What is Whatsforuwontgobyu's sire's record?: Well Chosen (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.6% of 1,923 runs since Apr 2008 (156 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Whatsforuwontgobyu's siblings?: Out of Meadstown Miss (IRE), Whatsforuwontgobyu (IRE) has 7 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Chemical Energy (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Chemical Energy (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–3m½f. As at Nov 2026.

KTB Speed and Rating

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Record by conditions

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▾Class 1 of 27 runs

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