When Doves Cry (GB)
When Doves Cry (GB) is yet to win from 7 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 3rd of 14 at Windsor (Jun 2009).
- 0–7Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 1 (14.3%)Placed
- −7.00£1 level staken=7 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=7 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 64Highest OR
- 61dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 1.3% of 79 runs since Jan 2008 (11 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 4 | 0 | 0% | −1.3 | 0 from 2 |
| Good | 29 | 1 | 3.4% | +2.1 | 0 from 3 |
| Good to Soft | 7 | 0 | 0% | −1.3 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 21 | 0 | 0% | −1.3 | — |
| Heavy | 10 | 0 | 0% | −1.3 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 8 | 0 | 0% | −1.3 | 0 from 1 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −1.3 | 0 from 2 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 9 | 0 | 0% | −1.3 | 0 from 4 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 15 | 0 | 0% | −1.3 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 23 | 0 | 0% | −1.3 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 17 | 0 | 0% | −1.3 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 11 | 1 | 9.1% | +7.8 | — |
| Over 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.3 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
3 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Profoundly (IRE) | 29 | 0 | — | — |
| Sea Scout (GB) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
| Expressionist (GB) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Good to Firm | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 5 | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Class 4 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Windsor | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Chepstow | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Chelmsford (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Doncaster | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Haydock | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m – 1m1f | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 6f – 7f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Michael Hills | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Chris Catlin | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Martin Dwyer | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Philip Robinson | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Franny Norton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2008 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 · 4 runs | |||||||||
| 06 Jul 09+14d | Windsor | Sportingbet.com Handicap | 6/14 | 3 | 8-12 | 61 | 66A | Chris Catlin | 12/1 |
| 22 Jun 09+21d | Chepstow | Chepstow Racecourse Wine Club at wineaux.co.uk Fillies' Handicap | 7/15 | nk | 8-12 | 61 | 68A | Martin Dwyer | 5/1F |
| 01 Jun 09+35d | Windsor | Best Job Ben Experiences Queensland islandreefjob.com Handicap | 3/14 | nse | 8-12 | 61 | 78A | Philip Robinson | 33/1 |
| 27 Apr 09+158d | Windsor | Trainermagazine.com Handicap | 9/11 | nk | 8-13 | 64 | 47C | Michael Hills | 5/1 |
| 2008 · 3 runs | |||||||||
| 20 Nov 08+119d | Chelmsford (AW) | greatleighs.com Median Auction Maiden Stakes | 9/12 | shd | 8-12 | — | 55A | Michael Hills | 10/1 |
| 24 Jul 08+20d | Doncaster | mosspm.co.uk Maiden Auction Fillies' Stakes | 4/11 | 2 | 8-6 | 64 | 61A | Michael Hills | 3/1 |
| 04 Jul 08 | Haydock | MTB Group Maiden Auction Stakes | 6/13 | 1 | 8-4 | 64 | 67A | Franny Norton | 12/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has When Doves Cry won?
- When Doves Cry (GB) has yet to win, from 7 archived starts between 2008 and 2009. Placed 1 time in total (14.3% of starts).
- Who trained When Doves Cry?
- When Doves Cry (GB) was trained by B W Hills on the most recent run on record, at Windsor on 6 July 2009.
- Who is When Doves Cry's sire?
- When Doves Cry (GB) is by Grandera (IRE) out of Deeply (IRE), whose sire is Darshaan.
- What is When Doves Cry's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 61, from the run on 6 July 2009. The highest on record is 64.
- What is When Doves Cry's sire's record?
- Grandera (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 1.3% of 79 runs since Jan 2008 (11 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are When Doves Cry's siblings?
- Out of Deeply (IRE), When Doves Cry (GB) has 3 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.