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Horse profile

Whenineedyou (GB)

3yo filly (at last run, Jul 2008) · Last trainer Ian Wood · Last owner Neardown Stables
by Best Of The Bests (IRE) out of Party Turn (GB) (Pivotal)
6 runs · 5 courses · from Oct 2007
As at 15 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 15 Jul 2008 — 6,665 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2008 · 14th of 15 Last raced off OR 44
KTB Profile

Whenineedyou (GB) is yet to win from 6 starts.

Based on 6 archived runs · updated 15 Oct 2026
Official rating44↓ 5lb off peak
44 44–49

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 29C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Southwell (AW), 3 Jun 2008 Official rating 44 at the last run, 15 Jul 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Flat 6 figures · best 43A · median 25
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 15 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)443A28.5—
Good to Firm1———
Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 15 Oct 2025
6f – 7f329C22—
1m – 1m1f228C22—
1m2f – 1m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 6 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Best Of The Bests (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 6.6% of 979 runs since Jan 2008 (74 horses).

Strongest on standard (aw) going: 10.1% from 307. Weakest on good to firm going: 3.2% from 188. Strongest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 9.8% from 193. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 2.9% from 139.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1800%−6.60 from 1
Good to Firm18863.2%−3.40 from 1
Good197147.1%+0.5—
Good to Soft11686.9%+0.3—
Soft11654.3%−2.3—
Heavy3712.7%−3.9—
Standard (AW)3073110.1%+3.50 from 4
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f7767.8%+1.2—
6f – 7f273238.4%+1.80 from 3
1m – 1m1f14564.1%−2.50 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f193199.8%+3.20 from 1
1m5f – 2m13942.9%−3.7—
2m1f – 2m4f11254.5%−2.1—
2m5f – 3m3925.1%−1.5—
Over 3m100%−6.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 15 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Party Turn (GB) (Pivotal)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Absolute Chaos (GB)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 4 0 0% −4.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Lingfield (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Brighton 1 0 0% −1.00
Bath 1 0 0% −1.00
Southwell (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 3 0 0% −3.00
1m – 1m1f 2 0 0% −2.00
1m2f – 1m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Paul Doe 1 0 0% −1.00
Franny Norton 1 0 0% −1.00
Fergal Lynch 1 0 0% −1.00
Neil Callan 1 0 0% −1.00
James Doyle 1 0 0% −1.00
Greg Fairley 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie 5 0 0% −5.00
None 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2008 5 0 0% −5.00
2007 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
15 Jul 08+20d Brighton Catering Services International Selling Stakes Class 6 · 7f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 14/15 2¼ 8-5 4422C Paul Doe 66/1
25 Jun 08+22d Bath Higos Chipping Sodbury Selling Handicap Class 6 · 8f · Firm · 11 ran 11/11 5 8-4 4516C Franny Norton 33/1
03 Jun 08+80d Southwell (AW) Bet In Play At ladbrokes.com Handicap Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 13 ran 11/13 3¼ 8-8 4929C Fergal Lynch 50/1
15 Mar 08+23d Lingfield (AW) lifestyleservices.co.uk Maiden Stakes Class 4 · 10f · Standard · 14 ran 12/14 5 8-12 4943A Neil Callan 100/1
21 Feb 08+121d Wolverhampton (AW) betdaq.co.uk Median Auction Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 8.5f · Standard · 8 ran 8/8 1¾ 8-12 4928C James Doyle 80/1
23 Oct 07 Lingfield (AW) directoryoftheturf.com Maiden Auction Stakes (Div 1) Class 5 · 7f · Standard · 10 ran 10/10 10 8-4 —21C Greg Fairley 16/1

Quick answers

How many races has Whenineedyou (GB) won?
Whenineedyou (GB) has yet to win, from 6 archived starts between 2007 and 2008.
Who trained Whenineedyou (GB)?
Whenineedyou (GB) was trained by Ian Wood on the most recent run on record, at Brighton on 15 July 2008.
Who is Whenineedyou (GB)'s sire?
Whenineedyou (GB) is by Best Of The Bests (IRE) out of Party Turn (GB), whose sire is Pivotal.
What is Whenineedyou (GB)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 44, from the run on 15 July 2008. The highest on record is 49.
What is Whenineedyou (GB)'s sire's record?
Best Of The Bests (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 6.6% of 979 runs since Jan 2008 (74 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on standard (aw) going: 10.1% from 307. Weakest on good to firm going: 3.2% from 188. Strongest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 9.8% from 193. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 2.9% from 139.
Who are Whenineedyou (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Party Turn (GB), Whenineedyou (GB) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2007. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.