Horse profile
You Say Nothing (IRE)
10yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2025) · Last trainer Christian Williams · Last owner Chiefs And A Dragon
by Epaulette (AUS) out of Joyride (GER) (Samum)
39 runs · 25 courses · from Aug 2020
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 7 Mar 2025 — 600 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2025 · 1st of 5
Won last time out
7 wins · 7 courses
Last raced off OR 89
KTB Profile
You Say Nothing won seven of 39 starts on turf all in handicaps. Four of those wins came over 1m5f – 2m and three over 2m1f – 2m4f with four on soft ground. He won the Royal Lancers Handicap Chase at Leicester in Mar 2025 when leading throughout off an official rating of 89. Aged 10 at his last run in Mar 2025 he was recording a first success for Christian Williams.
Based on 39 archived runs · run-style from 6 commented runs since Nov 2024 · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance
Typically led
OR ↓ 33lb off peak
- 7–39Wins / Runs
- 17.9%Strike rate
- 8 (20.5%)Placed
- −4.67£1 level staken=39 at SP
- 1.85Fair A/E n=39 · 1.60 incl. margin
- 122Highest OR
- 44dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating89↓ 33lb off peak
89
84–122
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
Best recent Speed 94
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
Jumps
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 28 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 13 | 108A | 46 | — |
| Good to Soft | 5 | 100C | 80 | — |
| Good | 4 | 94A | 76.5 | — |
| Heavy | 4 | 110B | 67 | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 28 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 15 | 110B | 72 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 9 | 108A | 80 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 2 | 92A | 69 | — |
Of 39 runs looked at, 13 have no figure: did not complete (7) · obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (6).
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 26 figures from 39 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style from 6 analysed runs since Nov 2024
- Led 5 (83%) · 2 wins
- Prominent 1 (17%) · 0 wins
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Epaulette (AUS)
Progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 3,066 runs since Jan 2008 (221 horses).
Weakest on heavy going: 4% from 173. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 5% from 222.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 5 | 0 | 0% | −9.1 | — |
| Good to Firm | 362 | 33 | 9.1% | 0 | 0 from 1 |
| Good | 681 | 59 | 8.7% | −0.4 | 0 from 6 |
| Good to Soft | 349 | 41 | 11.7% | +2.6 | 2 from 10 |
| Soft | 477 | 48 | 10.1% | +1 | 4 from 17 |
| Heavy | 173 | 7 | 4% | −5.1 | 1 from 5 |
| Standard (AW) | 1,019 | 91 | 8.9% | −0.2 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 252 | 17 | 6.7% | −2.4 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 1,279 | 116 | 9.1% | 0 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 770 | 77 | 10% | +0.9 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 436 | 48 | 11% | +1.9 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 222 | 11 | 5% | −4.1 | 4 from 22 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 95 | 9 | 9.5% | +0.4 | 3 from 14 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 12 | 1 | 8.3% | −0.8 | 0 from 3 |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Dam
Joyride (GER) (Samum)
2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chancellorstown (IRE) | 8 | 0 | — | — |
| Wicklow Gale (IRE) | 8 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 17 | 4 | 24% | +6.33 |
| Good to Soft | 10 | 2 | 20% | −3.50 |
| Good | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Heavy | 5 | 1 | 20% | −0.50 |
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 11 | 1 | 9% | −4.50 |
| Class 5 | 10 | 4 | 40% | +6.33 |
| Class 3 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ffos Las | 4 | 1 | 25% | +2.50 |
| Exeter | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Kilbeggan | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Lingfield | 2 | 1 | 50% | +2.33 |
| Warwick | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Stratford | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Sedgefield | 2 | 1 | 50% | +0.50 |
| Punchestown | 2 | 1 | 50% | +2.50 |
| Fairyhouse | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Galway | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Leicester | 1 | 1 | 100% | +3.00 |
| Southwell | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Worcester | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Newton Abbot | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Plumpton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Chepstow | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ludlow | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Carlisle | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Market Rasen | 1 | 1 | 100% | +4.50 |
| Fontwell | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Huntingdon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ballinrobe | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Naas | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Down Royal | 1 | 1 | 100% | +6.00 |
| Cork | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 22 | 4 | 18% | −2.67 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 14 | 3 | 21% | +1.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jack Tudor | 16 | 3 | 19% | −2.67 |
| Jonathan Moore | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Nick Scholfield | 3 | 1 | 33% | +2.50 |
| Gavin Sheehan | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Conor McNamara | 3 | 1 | 33% | +4.00 |
| Keith Donoghue | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Sam Twiston-Davies | 1 | 1 | 100% | +3.00 |
| Robert Dunne | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Craig Nichol | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tom Bellamy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| J B Kane | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Mr J Dunne | 1 | 1 | 100% | +3.50 |
| P J O'Hanlon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 26 | 4 | 15% | −4.00 |
| Hood | 12 | 3 | 25% | +0.33 |
| Tongue tie | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2025 | 2 | 2 | 100% | +6.33 |
| 2024 | 10 | 0 | 0% | −10.00 |
| 2023 | 5 | 2 | 40% | +7.00 |
| 2022 | 5 | 1 | 20% | −2.50 |
| 2021 | 9 | 1 | 11% | −4.50 |
| 2020 | 8 | 1 | 13% | −1.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chase | 27 | 5 | 19% | −4.17 |
| Hurdle | 12 | 2 | 17% | −0.50 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2025 · 2 runs | ||||||||||
| 07 Mar 25+15d | Leicester | Royal Lancers Handicap Chase Set the pace throughout - fenced cleanly - roused before the final obstacle then pulled clear on the run-in for a comfortable win | 1/5 | 11-10 | 89 | 100C | 126B | Sam Twiston-Davies | 3/1 | |
| 20 Feb 25+51d | Lingfield | Amazing Sri Lanka Handicap Chase Set the pace from the off - kept finding under pressure through the closing stages - held on gamely to score | 1/6 | 11-0 | 84 | — | 114B | Jack Tudor | 10/3 | |
| 2024 · 10 runs | ||||||||||
| 31 Dec 24+12d | Warwick | Poundland - Proud To Support Warwick Racecourse Handicap Chase Settled just behind the leader early - dropped back 4 out and pushed along before 2 out - faded from there to finish well beaten | 8/10 | 4¾ | 11-3 | 88 | 12C | 87C | Jack Tudor | 11/1 |
| 19 Dec 24+23d | Exeter | Southwest Rail Solutions Handicap Chase Went straight to front - lost command around the 7th and driven to keep up before fading - eased off the pace and pulled up before 4 out | PU/15 | — | 11-6 | 92 | — | — | Jack Tudor | 25/1 |
| 26 Nov 24+16d | Southwell | Southwell Golf Club Handicap Chase Went straight to the front - pressed for effort and lost command approaching 4 out - dropped away quickly after - held on for 6th | 6/10 | 12 | 11-0 | 96 | 94A | 90A | Jack Tudor | 33/1 |
| 10 Nov 24+144d | Ffos Las | Stuart Morgan Memorial Handicap Chase Set the pace early - lost front spot 3rd but stayed close up - regained command 7th - overtaken and pressed for effort 9th - found nothing and pulled up 4 out | PU/9 | — | 11-10 | 100 | — | — | Nick Scholfield | 14/1 |
| 19 Jun 24+18d | Worcester | Rory Daly Handicap Chase | 10/13 | 11 | 10-12 | 102 | 61C | 94C | Robert Dunne | 11/1 |
| 01 Jun 24+12d | Stratford | BRC Roofing's 30th Anniversary Handicap Chase | 4/9 | 6 | 11-2 | 103 | 92A | 106A | Gavin Sheehan | 20/1 |
| 20 May 24+50d | Newton Abbot | Happy 60th Birthday Danny Kane Handicap Chase | PU/10 | — | 11-12 | 106 | — | — | Nick Scholfield | 25/1 |
| 31 Mar 24+20d | Plumpton | BetGoodwin Our Best Odds Guaranteed Handicap Chase | 5/6 | ½ | 10-13 | 109 | 25C | 102B | Gavin Sheehan | 18/1 |
| 11 Mar 24+33d | Stratford | Oncourse Bookmakers Welcome You To Stratford Handicap Chase | PU/6 | — | 11-8 | 112 | — | — | Gavin Sheehan | 8/1 |
| 07 Feb 24+42d | Sedgefield | Linda Jones Memorial Handicap Chase | 3/5 | 30 | 11-7 | 113 | 20C | 90C | Jack Tudor | 4/1 |
| 2023 · 5 runs | ||||||||||
| 27 Dec 23+30d | Chepstow | New Bet-In-Race With Coral Handicap Chase | 2/7 | 5 | 11-2 | 113 | 32A | 132A | Jack Tudor | 18/1 |
| 27 Nov 23+202d | Ludlow | Flowfit Handicap Chase | F/6 | — | 10-12 | 114 | — | — | Jack Tudor | 14/1 |
| 09 May 23+31d | Ffos Las | DragonBet Backing Welsh Sport Handicap Chase | 1/9 | 11-12 | 108 | 94A | 139A | Jack Tudor | 11/2 | |
| 08 Apr 23+18d | Carlisle | Ability FM Handicap Chase | 5/8 | 7 | 10-6 | 108 | 73A | 91A | Craig Nichol | 7/1 |
| 21 Mar 23+135d | Market Rasen | Happy 50th Birthday Rexine Burton Handicap Chase | 1/6 | 11-12 | 103 | 108A | 130B | Nick Scholfield | 9/2 | |
| 2022 · 5 runs | ||||||||||
| 06 Nov 22+228d | Ffos Las | Follow Vickers.Bet On Facebook Handicap Chase | 5/11 | 12 | 12-0 | 105 | 39A | 112A | Jack Tudor | 25/1 |
| 23 Mar 22+8d | Ffos Las | Cazoo Handicap Chase | 2/4 | 1¾ | 12-3 | 92 | 72C | 111B | Jack Tudor | 2/5F |
| 15 Mar 22+36d | Sedgefield | Bet 10 Get 20 Free At vickers.bet Handicap Chase | 1/6 | 11-1 | 92 | — | 117B | Jack Tudor | 6/4F | |
| 07 Feb 22+20d | Fontwell | Virgin Bet Handicap Chase | 4/8 | 11 | 9-12 | 95 | 80A | 85B | Jack Tudor | 18/1 |
| 18 Jan 22+40d | Exeter | Watch Racing TV In Stunning HD Handicap Chase | 8/13 | 7 | 11-5 | 100 | 85B | 94A | Jack Tudor | 16/1 |
| 2021 · 9 runs | ||||||||||
| 09 Dec 21+14d | Warwick | Champion Compressors Novices' Handicap Chase (GBB Race) | 10/11 | 1½ | 10-8 | 105 | 20C | 90C | Jack Tudor | 100/1 |
| 25 Nov 21+25d | Lingfield | Read Kevin Blake On attheraces.com Novices' Handicap Chase (GBB Race) | PU/13 | — | 11-1 | 112 | — | — | Jack Tudor | 125/1 |
| 31 Oct 21+24d | Huntingdon | Mansionbet Watch And Bet Macer Gifford Handicap Chase | 6/7 | 2¼ | 11-10 | 117 | — | 101C | Tom Bellamy | 33/1 |
| 07 Oct 21+135d | Exeter | Jockey Club Jump Racing Awards Day Handicap Chase | PU/6 | — | 11-2 | 122 | — | — | Jack Tudor | 40/1 |
| 25 May 21+28d | Ballinrobe | McHale Tiger Roll Beginners Chase | 9/14 | nk | 11-9 | 92 | 26C | 97C | J B Kane | 7/2 |
| 27 Apr 21+22d | Punchestown | Have The Conversation Say Yes To Organ Donation Novice Handicap Hurdle | 21/22 | 29 | 11-4 | 117 | 19C | 103C | Jonathan Moore | 33/1 |
| 05 Apr 21+36d | Fairyhouse | Farmhouse Foods Novice Handicap Hurdle | 10/20 | 2¾ | 11-5 | 118 | 79B | 112A | Keith Donoghue | 40/1 |
| 28 Feb 21+41d | Naas | Paddy's Rewards Club Handicap Hurdle | PU/18 | — | 10-13 | 118 | — | — | Jonathan Moore | 14/1 |
| 18 Jan 21+32d | Punchestown | John Thomas McNamara Series (Q.R.) Handicap Hurdle | 1/13 | 11-10 | 104 | 110B | 142A | Mr J Dunne | 7/2F | |
| 2020 · 8 runs | ||||||||||
| 17 Dec 20+25d | Down Royal | Adare Manor Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (80-102) | 1/12 | 11-5 | 93 | 81A | 120A | Conor McNamara | 6/1 | |
| 22 Nov 20+19d | Cork | Adare Manor Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (80-109) | 8/16 | 1 | 10-13 | 93 | 102B | 95A | Conor McNamara | 7/2F |
| 03 Nov 20+10d | Fairyhouse | Jetaway.ie At Artic Tack Stud Handicap Hurdle (80-95) (Div 2) | F/14 | — | 11-10 | 91 | — | — | Jonathan Moore | 14/1 |
| 24 Oct 20+17d | Galway | Galway Handicap Hurdle (80-102) | 13/17 | 4 | 11-4 | 92 | 46C | 93C | Jonathan Moore | 15/2 |
| 07 Oct 20+33d | Galway | Galway Handicap Hurdle (80-95) | 6/18 | 5 | 12-0 | 92 | 78B | 111A | Keith Donoghue | 33/1 |
| 04 Sep 20+14d | Kilbeggan | Pat Doyle Memorial Maiden Hurdle (Div 2) | PU/12 | — | 10-13 | — | — | — | P J O'Hanlon | 50/1 |
| 21 Aug 20+20d | Kilbeggan | Hurley Family Maiden Hurdle (Div 1) | 11/14 | 21 | 11-6 | — | 36C | 91C | Jonathan Moore | 18/1 |
| 01 Aug 20 | Kilbeggan | Athlone (C & G) Maiden Hurdle | 5/14 | ½ | 11-1 | — | 69C | 88C | Conor McNamara | 50/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has You Say Nothing won?
- You Say Nothing (IRE) won 7 of 39 archived starts between 2020 and 2025, a strike rate of 17.9%. Placed 8 times in total (20.5% of starts).
- Who trained You Say Nothing?
- You Say Nothing (IRE) was trained by Christian Williams on the most recent run on record, at Leicester on 7 March 2025.
- Who is You Say Nothing's sire?
- You Say Nothing (IRE) is by Epaulette (AUS) out of Joyride (GER), whose sire is Samum.
- What going does You Say Nothing prefer?
- You Say Nothing (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 4 wins from 17 starts (23.5%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is You Say Nothing's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 89, from the run on 7 March 2025. The highest on record is 122.
- What is You Say Nothing's sire's record?
- Epaulette (AUS)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 3,066 runs since Jan 2008 (221 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 4% from 173. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 5% from 222.
- Who are You Say Nothing's siblings?
- Out of Joyride (GER), You Say Nothing (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.