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Horse profile

Dont Tell Nan (GB)

4yo filly (at last run, Jan 2015) · Last trainer Derek Shaw · Last owner Brian Johnson Northamptonshire
by Major Cadeaux (GB) out of Charlie Girl (GB) (Puissance)
11 runs · 7 courses · from Sep 2013
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 29 Jan 2015 — 4,297 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jan 2015 · 8th of 12 First-time headgear LTO Last raced off OR 48
KTB Profile

Dont Tell Nan (GB) is yet to win from 11 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 2nd of 10 at Southwell (AW) (Aug 2014). Last raced off 48, 9lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 11 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 9lb off peak

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, Dont Tell Nan (GB) has 2 produce in the archive, 2 winners — most wins Runninwild (GB) (6 wins).

The wins came over 5f–1m2f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Runninwild (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Runninwild (GB)3465f–6fClass 3
Royal Countess (GB)5431m2fClass 6
Official rating48↓ 9lb off peak
48 47–57

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 84A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Southwell (AW), 20 Aug 2014 Official rating 48 at the last run, 29 Jan 2015

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 11 figures · best 84A · median 41
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Standard (AW)784A42—
Good to Firm244A34—
Good1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Under 6f1084A40.5—
6f – 7f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 11 figures from 11 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 10.6% of 1,360 runs since Apr 2013 (81 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 15% from 314. Weakest on good going: 6.3% from 288.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm10110%−0.6—
Good to Firm3144715%+4.40 from 2
Good288186.3%−4.30 from 1
Good to Soft176179.7%−0.9—
Soft149149.4%−1.20 from 1
Heavy2813.6%−7—
Standard (AW)3954611.6%+10 from 7
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f338339.8%−0.80 from 10
6f – 7f6026410.6%00 from 1
1m – 1m1f2302912.6%+2—
1m2f – 1m4f1261713.5%+2.9—
1m5f – 2m4300%−10.6—
2m1f – 2m4f1417.1%−3.5—
2m5f – 3m700%−10.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2013 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Charlie Girl (GB) (Puissance)

10 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Feelin Foxy (GB) (9 wins).

The wins came over 5f–2m1f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Valley Of Fire (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Feelin Foxy (GB)8395f–6fClass 4
Valley Of Fire (GB)3356f–7fClass 3
Knox Overstreet (GB)2632m–2m1fClass 5
Russian Reel (GB)2016fClass 5
Yes Two (GB)315fClass 5
Josh (GB)280——
The Shrewd Cookie (GB)20——
Sensacion Sensual (GB)40——
Dolly Diva (GB)160——
Jersey Roy (GB)80——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 7 0 0% −7.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 7 0 0% −7.00
Class 6 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 7 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Southwell (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Beverley 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Leicester 1 0 0% −1.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
Under 6f 10 0 0% −10.00
6f – 7f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Adam McLean 3 0 0% −3.00
Dale Swift 2 0 0% −2.00
Raul Da Silva 2 0 0% −2.00
Irineu Goncalves 1 0 0% −1.00
Franny Norton 1 0 0% −1.00
Noel Garbutt 1 0 0% −1.00
Liam Jones 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 10 0 0% −10.00
Visor 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2015 1 0 0% −1.00
2014 5 0 0% −5.00
2013 5 0 0% −5.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2015 · 1 run
29 Jan 15+120d Southwell (AW) Unibet Offer Daily Jockey/trainer Specials Handicap Class 6 · 5f · Standard · 12 ran 8/12 2 8-7 4842A Irineu Goncalves 20/1
2014 · 5 runs
01 Oct 14+42d Kempton (AW) Haymarket Sales Team Of The Year Handicap Class 7 · 5f · Standard · 9 ran 5/9 nk 9-2 4858A Dale Swift 6/1
20 Aug 14+6d Southwell (AW) In Memory Of Nev Hardy Handicap Class 6 · 5f · Standard · 10 ran 2/10 ½ 8-12 4784A Dale Swift 16/1
14 Aug 14+12d Beverley Beverley Golf Club 125th Anniversary Fillies' Handicap Class 5 · 5f · Good · 12 ran 11/12 1 8-2 4723A Franny Norton 33/1
02 Aug 14+28d Doncaster Unison And LV=Liverpool Victoria Car Insurance Fillies' Handicap Class 5 · 6f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 9/13 hd 8-3 4744A Raul Da Silva 40/1
05 Jul 14+232d Leicester 'the Range' Handicap Class 5 · 5f · Good To Firm · 11 ran 9/11 ½ 7-11 4824A Noel Garbutt 33/1
2013 · 5 runs
15 Nov 13+9d Wolverhampton (AW) 32Red Casino Nursery Class 5 · 5f · Standard · 6 ran 6/6 2 8-11 5737B Liam Jones 25/1
06 Nov 13+11d Nottingham PHS Group Nursery Class 4 · 5f · Soft · 11 ran 8/11 ¾ 8-0 5741A Raul Da Silva 50/1
26 Oct 13+23d Wolverhampton (AW) 32red Casino British Stallion Studs E.b.f. Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 5f · Standard · 10 ran 6/10 4½ 8-7 —40A Adam McLean 16/1
03 Oct 13+17d Southwell (AW) British Stallion Studs E.B.F. Median Auction Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 5f · Standard · 9 ran 7/9 ¾ 8-7 —29A Adam McLean 25/1
16 Sep 13 Wolverhampton (AW) 32Red.com E.B.F. Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 5f · Standard To Slow · 12 ran 8/12 ½ 8-7 —43A Adam McLean 66/1

Quick answers

How many races has Dont Tell Nan won?
Dont Tell Nan (GB) has yet to win, from 11 archived starts between 2013 and 2015. Placed 1 time in total (9.1% of starts).
Who trained Dont Tell Nan?
Dont Tell Nan (GB) was trained by Derek Shaw on the most recent run on record, at Southwell (AW) on 29 January 2015.
Who is Dont Tell Nan's sire?
Dont Tell Nan (GB) is by Major Cadeaux (GB) out of Charlie Girl (GB), whose sire is Puissance.
What is Dont Tell Nan's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 48, from the run on 29 January 2015. The highest on record is 57.
What is Dont Tell Nan's sire's record?
Major Cadeaux (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.6% of 1,360 runs since Apr 2013 (81 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 15% from 314. Weakest on good going: 6.3% from 288.
Who are Dont Tell Nan's siblings?
Out of Charlie Girl (GB), Dont Tell Nan (GB) has 10 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Feelin Foxy (GB) (9). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Valley Of Fire (GB)). The wins came over 5f–2m1f. As at Nov 2026.
Has Dont Tell Nan produced winners?
As a dam, Dont Tell Nan (GB) has 2 produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Runninwild (GB) (6). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Runninwild (GB)). The wins came over 5f–1m2f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from September 2013. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.