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Horse profile

Elusive Double (IRE)

8yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2010) · Last trainer Donncha Duggan · Last owner Donncha Duggan
by Grand Lodge (USA) out of Lady Luck (IRE) (Kris)
16 runs · 7 courses · from May 2005
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 7 Nov 2010 — 5,833 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2010 · 15th of 18 New yard
KTB Profile

Elusive Double (IRE) is yet to win from 16 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 3rd of 19 at Leopardstown (Aug 2009).

Based on 16 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 40lb off peak
Official rating63↓ 40lb off peak
63 62–103

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 81C the best of the last 1 rated run · Limerick, 7 Nov 2010

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 70A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Ballinrobe, 20 Sep 2009 Official rating 63 at the last flat run, 26 Oct 2009

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown
Flat 15 figures · best 81A · median 63
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
Soft670A59.5—
Heavy372C68—
Good269C61.5—
Good to Firm268C64—
Standard (AW)1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 27 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f981A63—
6f – 7f472C67.5—
1m2f – 1m4f1———
Under 6f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 16 figures from 16 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Grand Lodge (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 8.3% of 1,359 runs since Jan 2008 (104 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 11.6% from 250. Weakest on soft going: 4.4% from 182.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1317.7%−0.6—
Good to Firm2502911.6%+3.30 from 2
Good377297.7%−0.60 from 2
Good to Soft16995.3%−30 from 1
Soft18284.4%−3.90 from 7
Heavy6223.2%−5.10 from 3
Standard (AW)3063511.4%+3.10 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1815.6%−2.70 from 1
6f – 7f9866.1%−2.20 from 4
1m – 1m1f2062110.2%+1.90 from 9
1m2f – 1m4f326288.6%+0.30 from 1
1m5f – 2m378318.2%−0.10 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f212219.9%+1.6—
2m5f – 3m9955.1%−3.2—
Over 3m2200%−8.3—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Lady Luck (IRE) (Kris)

6 siblings in the archive, 6 winners — best of them Casual Conquest (IRE) (4 wins).

The wins came over 7f–1m2½f; the highest grade won is Group 1 (Casual Conquest (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Casual Conquest (IRE)947f–1m2½fGroup 1
Afternoon Sunlight (IRE)921mGroup 3
A Word Apart (IRE)1417f—
Resolute Response (IRE)511m2f—
Moving Heart (IRE)817f—
Espoir D'soleil (IRE)1111m1f—

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 7 0 0% −7.00
Heavy 3 0 0% −3.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Standard (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 2 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Curragh 7 0 0% −7.00
Leopardstown 4 0 0% −4.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Ballinrobe 1 0 0% −1.00
Dundalk (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Cork 1 0 0% −1.00
York 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m – 1m1f 9 0 0% −9.00
6f – 7f 4 0 0% −4.00
1m5f – 2m 1 0 0% −1.00
1m2f – 1m4f 1 0 0% −1.00
Under 6f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Pat Smullen 4 0 0% −4.00
Keagan Latham 2 0 0% −2.00
Pierce Gallagher 1 0 0% −1.00
Emmet McNamara 1 0 0% −1.00
Derek McCormack 1 0 0% −1.00
B J Cooper 1 0 0% −1.00
C D Allen 1 0 0% −1.00
Shane Foley 1 0 0% −1.00
Declan McDonogh 1 0 0% −1.00
Seamie Heffernan 1 0 0% −1.00
Mick Kinane 1 0 0% −1.00
Tadhg O'Shea 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 11 0 0% −11.00
Tongue tie 2 0 0% −2.00
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00
Visor 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2010 1 0 0% −1.00
2009 4 0 0% −4.00
2008 5 0 0% −5.00
2006 1 0 0% −1.00
2005 5 0 0% −5.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 15 0 0% −15.00
Hurdle 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2010 · 1 run
07 Nov 10+377d Limerick Winter Wonderland Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft · 18 ran 15/18 30 11-7 —81C Pierce Gallagher 40/1
2009 · 4 runs
26 Oct 09+36d Leopardstown Elmwood Handicap (55-85) 10f · Yielding · 22 ran 12/22 1½ 8-6 6362A Keagan Latham 20/1
20 Sep 09+12d Ballinrobe Sponsors Day Tomorrow Handicap (55-80) 9f · Yielding To Soft · 16 ran 7/16 2½ 9-0 6470A Keagan Latham 14/1
08 Sep 09+33d Dundalk (AW) Ardpatrick Handicap (50-70) (Div 1) 7f · Standard · 14 ran 12/14 hd 9-3 6444A Emmet McNamara 7/1
06 Aug 09+292d Leopardstown Derrinstown Stud Apprentice Handicap (50-70) 8f · Good To Yielding · 19 ran 3/19 1½ 9-3 6281A Derek McCormack 25/1
2008 · 5 runs
18 Oct 08+18d Cork Derrinstown Stud Apprentice Handicap (60-75) 5.5f · Soft · 15 ran 9/15 2½ 9-5 7357A B J Cooper 20/1
30 Sep 08+16d Curragh Peter Keatley Equine Groundcare Apprentice Handicap (60-80) 8f · Soft · 24 ran 19/24 3½ 9-11 7763C C D Allen 25/1
14 Sep 08+7d Curragh Anglesey Lodge Equine Hospital Handicap (50-80) 7f · Heavy · 22 ran 11/22 2½ 9-9 8067C Shane Foley 25/1
07 Sep 08+21d Leopardstown Stepaside Handicap (60-100) 9f · Yielding · 18 ran 17/18 2 9-8 8455A Declan McDonogh 20/1
17 Aug 08+777d Leopardstown womenmeanbusiness.com Handicap (60-100) 7f · Heavy · 16 ran 11/16 hd 8-12 8468A Seamie Heffernan 33/1
2006 · 1 run
02 Jul 06+252d Curragh Netjets Celebration Stakes (listed) 8f · Good · 9 ran 9/9 5 9-9 9454C Mick Kinane 40/1
2005 · 5 runs
23 Oct 05+49d Curragh Irish Pride Rustic Grain Race 8f · Yielding · 10 ran 4/10 5 9-0 —47C Tadhg O'Shea 8/1
04 Sep 05+70d Curragh Ladbrokes.ie EBF Irish Cambridgeshire 8f · Good · 20 ran 10/20 ½ 9-9 10069C Pat Smullen 14/1
26 Jun 05+10d Curragh Budweiser Guinness Handicap 8f · Good To Firm · 22 ran 13/22 ½ 9-1 10260C Pat Smullen 14/1
16 Jun 05+45d York Britannia Stakes (Heritage Handicap) Class 2 · 8f · Good To Firm · 21 ran 21/21 ¾ 9-7 10368C Pat Smullen 25/1
02 May 05 Curragh Rock Of Gibraltar EBF Tetrarch Stakes (Group 3) 7f · Heavy · 5 ran 3/5 2 9-0 10372C Pat Smullen 16/1

Quick answers

How many races has Elusive Double won?
Elusive Double (IRE) has yet to win, from 16 archived starts between 2005 and 2010. Placed 1 time in total (6.3% of starts).
Who trained Elusive Double?
Elusive Double (IRE) was trained by Donncha Duggan on the most recent run on record, at Limerick on 7 November 2010.
Who is Elusive Double's sire?
Elusive Double (IRE) is by Grand Lodge (USA) out of Lady Luck (IRE), whose sire is Kris.
What is Elusive Double's official rating?
Elusive Double (IRE)'s highest official rating on record is 103.
What is Elusive Double's sire's record?
Grand Lodge (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.3% of 1,359 runs since Jan 2008 (104 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 11.6% from 250. Weakest on soft going: 4.4% from 182.
Who are Elusive Double's siblings?
Out of Lady Luck (IRE), Elusive Double (IRE) has 6 other produce in our archive, 6 of them winners. Most wins: Casual Conquest (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Group 1 (Casual Conquest (IRE)). The wins came over 7f–1m2½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.