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Horse profile

Ifandbutwhy (IRE)

10yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2012) · Last trainer Henry Hogarth · Last owner Hogarth Racing
by Raise A Grand (IRE) out of Cockney Ground (IRE) (Common Grounds)
17 runs · 10 courses · from Jan 2009
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 9 Nov 2012 — 5,100 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2012 · 3rd of 5 2 wins · Bangor-on-Dee & Wetherby Last raced off OR 109
KTB Profile

Ifandbutwhy (IRE) is 2 from 17, both wins coming at Class 4 level. Hasn't won since Feb 2010. Last raced off 109, 11lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 17 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance All wins at Class 4 OR ↓ 11lb off peak
Official rating109↓ 11lb off peak
109 105–120

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 119A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Market Rasen, 29 Sep 2012 Official rating 109 at the last run, 9 Nov 2012

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 13 figures · best 135A · median 109
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft5115A104—
Good5119A116—
Good to Soft2135A112.5—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f8135A114—
2m5f – 3m4119A106.5—
Over 3m1———

Of 17 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (4).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 13 figures from 17 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Raise A Grand (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.5% of 811 runs since Jan 2008 (50 horses).

Strongest on good to soft going: 13.9% from 115.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1000%−7.5—
Good to Firm13196.9%−0.6—
Good263197.2%−0.31 from 6
Good to Soft1151613.9%+6.41 from 3
Soft138128.7%+1.20 from 5
Heavy5958.5%+10 from 3
Standard (AW)9500%−7.5—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f851112.9%+5.4—
6f – 7f4512.2%−5.3—
1m – 1m1f3912.6%−4.9—
1m2f – 1m4f8989%+1.5—
1m5f – 2m274207.3%−0.20 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f175116.3%−1.22 from 9
2m5f – 3m8989%+1.50 from 5
Over 3m1516.7%−0.80 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Cockney Ground (IRE) (Common Grounds)

4 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Ifandbutwhynot (IRE) (9 wins).

The wins came over 1m2f–2m½f; the highest grade won is Listed (Ifandbutwhynot (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Ifandbutwhynot (IRE)5491m7½f–2m½fListed
Joy's Gift (IRE)2812m—
Cockney Tai (IRE)1111m2f—
Ifandbutwhen (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 6 1 17% +3.00
Soft 5 0 0% −5.00
Heavy 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 3 1 33% +12.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 14 2 14% +10.00
Class 3 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Hexham 3 0 0% −3.00
Market Rasen 2 0 0% −2.00
Bangor-on-Dee 2 1 50% +13.00
Doncaster 2 0 0% −2.00
Newcastle 2 0 0% −2.00
Catterick 2 0 0% −2.00
Uttoxeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Wetherby 1 1 100% +8.00
Kelso 1 0 0% −1.00
Perth 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 9 2 22% +15.00
2m5f – 3m 5 0 0% −5.00
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00
Over 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Fearghal Davis 6 0 0% −6.00
Michael O'Connell 5 0 0% −5.00
Phil Kinsella 3 1 33% +6.00
Brian Hughes 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr O Greenall 1 1 100% +14.00
Paddy Aspell 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 15 2 13% +9.00
Cheekpieces 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2012 7 0 0% −7.00
2010 3 1 33% +12.00
2009 7 1 14% +2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 11 2 18% +13.00
Chase 6 0 0% −6.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2012 · 7 runs
09 Nov 12+27d Hexham Weatherbys Hamilton Insurance Beginners' Chase Class 4 · 24f · Soft · 5 ran 3/5 14 11-3 10994C Fearghal Davis 4/1
13 Oct 12+14d Hexham Metrocentre Keeps Getting Better Handicap Chase Class 4 · 20f · Heavy · 6 ran UR/6 — 11-11 109— Fearghal Davis 6/1
29 Sep 12+28d Market Rasen Jane Clugston Handicap Chase Class 4 · 21.5f · Good · 10 ran 3/10 8 11-12 109119A Fearghal Davis 10/1
01 Sep 12+29d Market Rasen Elizabeth Hargreaves Memorial Cup Handicap Chase Class 4 · 24f · Good · 9 ran 5/9 1 11-7 110109B Fearghal Davis 12/1
03 Aug 12+16d Bangor-on-Dee Meade King Robinson Novices' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 20.5f · Good · 10 ran 3/10 1¾ 11-12 110116B Brian Hughes 7/1
18 Jul 12+32d Uttoxeter Monacor Raceday Handicap Chase Class 4 · 21f · Soft · 7 ran 3/7 23 11-8 110104B Fearghal Davis 20/1
16 Jun 12+843d Hexham Margaret Ferries Memorial Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Heavy · 5 ran 3/5 2 11-12 110113B Fearghal Davis 16/1
2010 · 3 runs
24 Feb 10+19d Doncaster Sportingbet.com Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 19.5f · Soft · 17 ran 11/17 12 11-12 120107C Phil Kinsella 12/1
05 Feb 10+11d Bangor-on-Dee Maelor Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 19.5f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 1/12 11-9 108135A Mr O Greenall 14/1
25 Jan 10+87d Newcastle S.V. Rutter Office Accomodation Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Heavy · 11 ran UR/11 — 11-5 108— Phil Kinsella 12/1
2009 · 7 runs
30 Oct 09+13d Wetherby Wetherby Racecourse & Conference Centre 'Nat Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Good · 4 ran 1/4 10-12 108118B Phil Kinsella 8/1
17 Oct 09+176d Kelso Clifford Firth Memorial 'national Hunt' Maiden Hurdle Class 5 · 22.5f · Good · 11 ran UR/11 — 11-0 105— Paddy Aspell 9/2
24 Apr 09+52d Perth Stanjames.com Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Good · 15 ran 12/15 ½ 11-6 10893A Michael O'Connell 16/1
03 Mar 09+32d Newcastle Ncfe Qualifications Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Soft · 17 ran F/17 — 11-5 108— Michael O'Connell 9/1
30 Jan 09+7d Catterick E.B.F. 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle (Qualifier) Class 4 · 19.5f · Soft · 14 ran 3/14 3¼ 11-0 108115A Michael O'Connell 14/1
23 Jan 09+7d Doncaster E.B.F.Get Well Soon Ed 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle (Qualifier) Class 3 · 19.5f · Soft · 21 ran 9/21 3¾ 10-12 10895C Michael O'Connell 100/1
16 Jan 09 Catterick Hipswell Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 25.5f · Good To Soft · 16 ran 7/16 1½ 10-7 10890C Michael O'Connell 40/1

Quick answers

How many races has Ifandbutwhy won?
Ifandbutwhy (IRE) won 2 of 17 archived starts between 2009 and 2012, a strike rate of 11.8%. Placed 5 times in total (29.4% of starts).
Who trained Ifandbutwhy?
Ifandbutwhy (IRE) was trained by Henry Hogarth on the most recent run on record, at Hexham on 9 November 2012.
Who is Ifandbutwhy's sire?
Ifandbutwhy (IRE) is by Raise A Grand (IRE) out of Cockney Ground (IRE), whose sire is Common Grounds.
What going does Ifandbutwhy prefer?
Ifandbutwhy (IRE) has the best record on good to soft going: 1 win from 3 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Ifandbutwhy's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 109, from the run on 9 November 2012. The highest on record is 120.
What is Ifandbutwhy's sire's record?
Raise A Grand (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.5% of 811 runs since Jan 2008 (50 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to soft going: 13.9% from 115.
Who are Ifandbutwhy's siblings?
Out of Cockney Ground (IRE), Ifandbutwhy (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Ifandbutwhynot (IRE) (9). Highest grade won: Listed (Ifandbutwhynot (IRE)). The wins came over 1m2f–2m½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from January 2009. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.