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Horse profile

Seemingly So (IRE)

10yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2023) · Last trainer L J Morgan · Last owner P Read A Lyons
by Dubai Destination (USA) out of Jane Hall (IRE) (Saddlers' Hall)
31 runs · 17 courses · from Nov 2018
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 6 Aug 2023 — 1,165 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2023 · 4th of 5 3 wins · Market Rasen & Musselburgh Last raced off OR 101
KTB Profile

Seemingly So (IRE) is 3 from 31. Hasn't won since May 2022. Last raced off 101, 19lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 31 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 19lb off peak
Official rating101↓ 19lb off peak
101 91–120

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 92 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Musselburgh, 5 Dec 2022

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was.

Jumps 26 figures · best 151A · median 89.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Good to Soft10129C86.5—
Soft8151A99.5—
Good6119A87.5—
Heavy2113A94.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m17151A90—
2m1f – 2m4f6119A89—
Over 3m3129C71—

Of 31 runs looked at, 5 have no figure: did not complete (3) · obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (2).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 26 figures from 31 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 98A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Musselburgh, 5 Dec 2022 Official rating 101 at the last run, 6 Aug 2023

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Jumps 27 figures · best 125A · median 101
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Good to Soft10125A92.5—
Soft8124B108—
Good7124A111—
Heavy2101B100.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m17124A101—
2m1f – 2m4f7125A105—
Over 3m3111B85—

Of 31 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (4).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 27 figures from 31 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Dubai Destination (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11% of 6,948 runs since Jan 2008 (521 horses).

Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 16.9% from 136.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm43614%+3—
Good to Firm97710811.1%+0.1—
Good1,8111769.7%−1.32 from 8
Good to Soft9089810.8%−0.20 from 12
Soft1,24012810.3%−0.71 from 9
Heavy4925811.8%+0.80 from 2
Standard (AW)1,47719012.9%+1.9—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1362316.9%+5.9—
6f – 7f1,10911810.6%−0.4—
1m – 1m1f1,13912611.1%+0.1—
1m2f – 1m4f1,37716411.9%+0.9—
1m5f – 2m1,37914010.2%−0.8—
2m1f – 2m4f1,00610610.5%−0.51 from 7
2m5f – 3m6556810.4%−0.62 from 21
Over 3m1471912.9%+1.90 from 3

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Jane Hall (IRE) (Saddlers' Hall)

4 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Shanroe Santos (IRE) (6 wins).

The wins came over 2m–3m3½f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Shanroe Santos (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Shanroe Santos (IRE)4262m5f–3m3½fClass 2
Yealand (IRE)1752m3f–2m4½fClass 3
Young Bull (IRE)1542m–2m5½fClass 3
City Break (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 12 0 0% −12.00
Soft 9 1 11% −4.50
Good 8 2 25% +5.50
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 18 1 6% −13.00
Class 5 9 1 11% −0.50
Class 3 4 1 25% +0.50

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Market Rasen 6 2 33% +7.50
Perth 4 0 0% −4.00
Southwell 3 0 0% −3.00
Musselburgh 2 1 50% +2.50
Bangor-on-Dee 2 0 0% −2.00
Newcastle 2 0 0% −2.00
Ludlow 2 0 0% −2.00
Kelso 1 0 0% −1.00
Cartmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Hexham 1 0 0% −1.00
Carlisle 1 0 0% −1.00
Fakenham 1 0 0% −1.00
Uttoxeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Taunton 1 0 0% −1.00
Wetherby 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Ayr 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 21 2 10% −8.00
2m1f – 2m4f 7 1 14% −2.00
Over 3m 3 0 0% −3.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Aidan Coleman 9 1 11% −4.00
Adam Wedge 6 2 33% +7.00
Patrick Cowley 3 0 0% −3.00
Brian Hughes 3 0 0% −3.00
David Noonan 3 0 0% −3.00
Lewis Dobb 2 0 0% −2.00
Fergus Gregory 2 0 0% −2.00
Gavin Sheehan 1 0 0% −1.00
Ben Jones 1 0 0% −1.00
Miss Gina Andrews 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Cheekpieces 12 1 8% −7.50
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 7 1 14% +1.50
None 7 1 14% −2.00
Blinkers 3 0 0% −3.00
Tongue tie + visor 1 0 0% −1.00
Visor 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2023 1 0 0% −1.00
2022 15 2 13% −2.00
2021 7 0 0% −7.00
2020 3 0 0% −3.00
2019 3 0 0% −3.00
2018 2 1 50% +3.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 21 2 10% −8.00
Hurdle 10 1 10% −5.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
06 Aug 23+223d Market Rasen Gardiner Hill Foundation Enriching Lives Handicap Chase Class 4 · 24f · Good To Soft · 5 ran 4/5 10 10-10 10187C94B Patrick Cowley 14/1
26 Dec 22+21d Market Rasen Chris Liesack Lincolnshire National Handicap Chase Class 3 · 27.5f · Good To Soft · 15 ran 10/15 1½ 9-13 10157C82C Patrick Cowley 40/1
05 Dec 22+30d Musselburgh Bet At racingtv.com Handicap Chase Class 4 · 24f · Soft · 7 ran 4/7 13 11-5 10392A98A Gavin Sheehan 6/1
05 Nov 22+38d Kelso Midburn Construction Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 26f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 8/8 11 10-11 105129C85C Patrick Cowley 18/1
28 Sep 22+32d Bangor-on-Dee Kronospan Handicap Chase Class 5 · 24f · Good · 7 ran 3/7 23 12-0 10589C100C Brian Hughes 13/2
27 Aug 22+31d Cartmel Cengiz Sadik Memorial Handicap Chase Class 4 · 25.5f · Good · 4 ran 2/4 1¼ 11-9 10571C111B Brian Hughes 11/4
27 Jul 22+15d Perth Watch On Racing TV Handicap Chase Class 5 · 24f · Good · 6 ran 2/6 ½ 12-0 10386A121B Brian Hughes 8/1
12 Jul 22+23d Southwell Cazoo Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 20.5f · Good · 7 ran 7/7 2¾ 11-6 106—92C Lewis Dobb 28/1
19 Jun 22+39d Hexham Falcons Events At Kingston Park Handicap Chase Class 4 · 20f · Good · 6 ran 5/6 7½ 11-7 10873C97C Adam Wedge 10/1
11 May 22+5d Perth Holiday Inn Express Staycation Handicap Chase Class 5 · 24f · Good To Soft · 13 ran F/13 — 12-8 101—— David Noonan 10/3F
06 May 22+14d Market Rasen Read The Richard Hannon Unibet Blog Handicap Chase Class 5 · 21.5f · Good · 11 ran 1/11 12-1 10190A124A Adam Wedge 15/2
22 Apr 22+45d Perth Building Better, Better Futures, Kier Construction Novices' Limited Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 3 · 24f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 3/7 16 10-3 10287A91B David Noonan 18/1
08 Mar 22+16d Newcastle Play Last Horse Standing With Vickers.Bet Handicap Chase Class 4 · 23.5f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 4/7 9 11-4 10255C93C David Noonan 6/1
20 Feb 22+13d Musselburgh Royal Caledonian Hunt Handicap Chase Class 3 · 24f · Soft · 6 ran 1/6 10-0 91107A109B Adam Wedge 7/2
07 Feb 22+35d Carlisle Esk Handicap Chase (Div 2) Class 5 · 24.5f · Soft · 9 ran 5/9 18 11-3 9691A89B Adam Wedge 8/1
03 Jan 22+28d Southwell Watch Off The Fence On attheraces.com Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 20.5f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 6/14 27 11-11 10162C92C Ben Jones 66/1
06 Dec 21+40d Ludlow Peter Robert Garbett Memorial Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 24f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 10/12 12 11-2 10586C89C Lewis Dobb 18/1
27 Oct 21+91d Fakenham Greene King IPA Novices' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 24f · Good · 8 ran PU/8 — 12-0 107—— Adam Wedge 9/2
28 Jul 21+74d Perth Every Race Live On Racing Tv Handicap Chase Class 5 · 24f · Good To Soft · 9 ran F/9 — 12-2 107—— Adam Wedge 9/4F
15 May 21+56d Bangor-on-Dee Supporting Mental Health Awareness Week ConnectWithNature Handicap Chase Class 4 · 24f · Soft · 6 ran 3/6 4¾ 11-12 10994B107C Aidan Coleman 3/1
20 Mar 21+25d Uttoxeter 61 Deep Handicap Chase Class 4 · 20f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 5/12 1¼ 11-5 11259A110A Aidan Coleman 7/1
23 Feb 21+42d Taunton Geoffrey Bosley 'Tally Ho' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 23f · Heavy · 8 ran 4/8 18 11-0 114113A100B Aidan Coleman 4/1J
12 Jan 21+33d Wetherby Racing TV Anywhere Handicap Chase Class 4 · 24f · Heavy · 9 ran 4/9 11 11-7 11576A101B Aidan Coleman 4/1
10 Dec 20+286d Newcastle Bet 10 Get 20 At MansionBet Handicap Chase Class 4 · 23.5f · Soft · 6 ran 2/6 6 11-10 11580A124B Aidan Coleman 11/4
28 Feb 20+43d Doncaster 888Sport Novices' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 24f · Soft · 12 ran 2/12 2¾ 11-4 112114A122B Aidan Coleman 12/1
16 Jan 20+29d Market Rasen Racing TV Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 23f · Soft · 9 ran 3/9 11 11-7 115151A124A Fergus Gregory 7/1
18 Dec 19+296d Ludlow Chilton Liqueurs Amateur Riders Handicap Hurdle (Lady Amateur Riders) Class 4 · 21f · Soft · 9 ran PU/9 — 11-12 118—— Miss Gina Andrews 9/2
25 Feb 19+20d Ayr Watch Racing TV Now Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 24.5f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 7/11 1¼ 11-12 12098A114A Aidan Coleman 15/8F
05 Feb 19+51d Market Rasen Happy 80th Birthday Jim Gott Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 20.5f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 4/12 5 11-12 120108B125A Aidan Coleman 8/1
16 Dec 18+24d Southwell Mintbet.com Ebf 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 20.5f · Soft · 7 ran 3/7 7 10-13 —105A105B Fergus Gregory 4/1
22 Nov 18 Market Rasen Lincs Loos 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 18.5f · Good · 7 ran 1/7 10-12 —119A121A Aidan Coleman 4/1

Quick answers

How many races has Seemingly So (IRE) won?
Seemingly So (IRE) won 3 of 31 archived starts between 2018 and 2023, a strike rate of 9.7%. Placed 7 times in total (22.6% of starts).
Who trained Seemingly So (IRE)?
Seemingly So (IRE) was trained by L J Morgan on the most recent run on record, at Market Rasen on 6 August 2023.
Who is Seemingly So (IRE)'s sire?
Seemingly So (IRE) is by Dubai Destination (USA) out of Jane Hall (IRE), whose sire is Saddlers' Hall.
What going does Seemingly So (IRE) prefer?
Seemingly So (IRE) has the best record on good going: 2 wins from 8 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Seemingly So (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 101, from the run on 6 August 2023. The highest on record is 120.
What is Seemingly So (IRE)'s sire's record?
Dubai Destination (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11% of 6,948 runs since Jan 2008 (521 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 16.9% from 136.
Who are Seemingly So (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Jane Hall (IRE), Seemingly So (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Shanroe Santos (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Shanroe Santos (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–3m3½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from November 2018. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.