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Us And Them (IRE)

12yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2025) · Last trainer Joe Ponting · Last owner Miss G Tuck
by Stowaway (GB) out of Manorville (IRE) (Flemensfirth)
40 runs · 26 courses · from Mar 2017
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 25 Mar 2025 — 582 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2025 · 11th of 14 3 wins · Navan, Punchestown & Cork Headgear returns LTO Last raced off OR 100
KTB Profile

Us And Them won three of 40 starts on turf between Nov 2017 and Nov 2018. Two of those wins came over 1m5f to 2m on heavy ground at Punchestown and Cork while the third came at Navan over 2m1f to 2m4f on good ground. The gelding was aged 12 at his last run in Mar 2025 when he finished 11 of 14 in a Class 5 handicap hurdle at Taunton off an official rating of 100. Headgear returned at that run.

Based on 40 archived runs · run-style from 2 commented runs since Feb 2025 · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 52lb off peak
Official rating100↓ 52lb off peak
100 100–152

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 88 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Punchestown, 30 May 2021

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 28 figures · best 123C · median 77
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft11114B72—
Good8118C77.5—
Good to Soft5113C95—
Heavy4123C105.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m14123C77—
2m1f – 2m4f11113A77—
2m5f – 3m3118C107—

Of 40 runs looked at, 12 have no figure: did not complete (7) · obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (4) · not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 28 figures from 40 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 118B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Fakenham, 17 Mar 2023 Official rating 100 at the last jumps run, 25 Mar 2025

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 73C the best of the last 1 rated run · Leopardstown, 5 Mar 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 31 figures · best 147A · median 128
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft13145A124—
Good9147A128—
Good to Soft5136A118—
Heavy4145B134—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m15147A129—
2m1f – 2m4f13145A128—
2m5f – 3m3130B120—
Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 40 runs looked at, 8 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (8).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 32 figures from 40 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Stowaway (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 7,190 runs since Jan 2008 (561 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 16.1% from 124.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm200%−11.3—
Good to Firm1242016.1%+4.8—
Good2,20124711.2%−0.11 from 13
Good to Soft1,21814411.8%+0.50 from 6
Soft2,35327211.6%+0.30 from 16
Heavy1,25612910.3%−12 from 5
Standard (AW)3612.8%−8.5—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f100%−11.3—
1m – 1m1f300%−11.3—
1m2f – 1m4f2100%−11.3—
1m5f – 2m1,99323211.6%+0.32 from 19
2m1f – 2m4f2,48828111.3%01 from 17
2m5f – 3m2,11924711.7%+0.40 from 4
Over 3m565539.4%−1.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Manorville (IRE) (Flemensfirth)

3 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Mad Mike (IRE) (1 win).

The wins came over 2m5½f–3m; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Mad Mike (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Mad Mike (IRE)612m5½fClass 4
Veshenskaya (IRE)1613mClass 5
Donnytwobuckets (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 16 0 0% −16.00
Good 13 1 8% −7.00
Good to Soft 6 0 0% −6.00
Heavy 5 2 40% +10.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 1 7 0 0% −7.00
Class 2 5 0 0% −5.00
Class 4 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Cheltenham 5 0 0% −5.00
Punchestown 3 1 33% +1.00
Fairyhouse 3 0 0% −3.00
Navan 3 1 33% +3.00
Leopardstown 3 0 0% −3.00
Wexford 2 0 0% −2.00
Cork 2 1 50% +9.00
Taunton 1 0 0% −1.00
Warwick 1 0 0% −1.00
Sedgefield 1 0 0% −1.00
Fakenham 1 0 0% −1.00
Leicester 1 0 0% −1.00
Chepstow 1 0 0% −1.00
Ludlow 1 0 0% −1.00
Exeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Uttoxeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Plumpton 1 0 0% −1.00
Stratford 1 0 0% −1.00
Kilbeggan 1 0 0% −1.00
Tramore 1 0 0% −1.00
Killarney 1 0 0% −1.00
Galway 1 0 0% −1.00
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00
Aintree 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Thurles 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 19 2 11% −4.00
2m1f – 2m4f 17 1 6% −11.00
2m5f – 3m 4 0 0% −4.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
J J Slevin 21 3 14% +0.00
Tom O'Brien 4 0 0% −4.00
James Best 3 0 0% −3.00
Charlie Hammond 2 0 0% −2.00
Shane Shortall 2 0 0% −2.00
Danny McMenamin 1 0 0% −1.00
A P Heskin 1 0 0% −1.00
L P Dempsey 1 0 0% −1.00
Jody McGarvey 1 0 0% −1.00
Keith Donoghue 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr Derek O'Connor 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr T Hamilton 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr P W Mullins 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 12 3 25% +9.00
Tongue tie + blinkers 11 0 0% −11.00
Tongue tie 10 0 0% −10.00
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 4 0 0% −4.00
Blinkers 2 0 0% −2.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2025 2 0 0% −2.00
2023 3 0 0% −3.00
2022 5 0 0% −5.00
2021 6 0 0% −6.00
2020 6 0 0% −6.00
2019 7 0 0% −7.00
2018 5 1 20% +1.00
2017 6 2 33% +9.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 28 1 4% −22.00
Hurdle 9 2 22% +6.00
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00
Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2025 · 2 runs
25 Mar 25+32d Taunton Paddy Kenneally Cillas Cottage 1955 Winner Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 16.5f · Good · 14 ran Settled close to the pace - dropped away steadily after 3 out - well held at the finish 11/14 3¾ 12-0 10078C91C Charlie Hammond 100/1
21 Feb 25+463d Warwick JCB Hydradig Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 19f · Soft · 11 ran Held up at the back - made no impression - dropped away and pulled up before 2 out PU/11 — 11-10 106—— Charlie Hammond 150/1
2023 · 3 runs
16 Nov 23+244d Sedgefield Betting Sites Ltd At bettingsites.ltd.uk Handicap Chase Class 4 · 19.5f · Soft · 5 ran 5/5 27 12-0 12021C100C Danny McMenamin 40/1
17 Mar 23+44d Fakenham Country Food Trust Claiming Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Soft · 5 ran 3/5 3½ 11-9 122113C118B James Best 16/1
01 Feb 23+36d Leicester Leicester Racecourse Ideal Self-hire Wedding Venue Claiming Hurdle Class 4 · 15.5f · Soft · 8 ran 4/8 22 12-0 129—93C A P Heskin 9/1
2022 · 5 runs
27 Dec 22+7d Chepstow Coral Racing Club Handicap Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 2 · 23.5f · Soft · 10 ran PU/10 — 11-11 134—— James Best 150/1
20 Dec 22+46d Ludlow Tanners Champagne Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 2 · 16f · Good To Soft · 9 ran PU/9 — 12-0 139—— James Best 80/1
04 Nov 22+131d Exeter Betway Haldon Gold Cup (Grade 2 Limited Handicap Chase) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 17.5f · Good · 5 ran PU/5 — 10-6 140—— Tom O'Brien 50/1
26 Jun 22+49d Uttoxeter bet365 Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 2 · 16f · Good · 7 ran F/7 — 12-0 142—— Tom O'Brien 25/1
08 May 22+294d Plumpton Betting.bet Sussex Champion Chase Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 2 · 19.5f · Good · 7 ran UR/7 — 12-0 145—— J J Slevin 20/1
2021 · 6 runs
18 Jul 21+16d Stratford Mark & Jackie Nixon Ruby Wedding Chase Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 2 · 17f · Good · 4 ran 3/4 7 11-12 14884C126B Tom O'Brien 5/1
02 Jul 21+18d Wexford Good Enuf To Eat Catering Handicap Chase 20f · Good · 9 ran 8/9 16 11-10 14676C112C J J Slevin 12/1
14 Jun 21+15d Kilbeggan Galway Races Galway Plate Trial Handicap Chase 20f · Good · 8 ran 5/8 3½ 11-10 14677A128A L P Dempsey 9/1
30 May 21+42d Punchestown Ladbrokes Handicap Chase 20f · Soft · 10 ran 2/10 ¾ 11-8 14388A145A J J Slevin 16/1
18 Apr 21+32d Tramore Tramore Racecourse Directors Chase 21.5f · Good · 5 ran 2/5 8½ 11-8 143118C130B J J Slevin 13/2
17 Mar 21+109d Cheltenham Johnny Henderson Grand Annual Challenge Cup Handicap Chase (Grade 3) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 16f · Good To Soft · 19 ran 11/19 2¼ 11-1 14749B118A J J Slevin 14/1
2020 · 6 runs
28 Nov 20+41d Fairyhouse Easyfix Equine Handicap Chase (Grade B) 16.5f · Soft · 11 ran 7/11 7 11-7 14566C120A J J Slevin 13/2
18 Oct 20+57d Cork coopsuperstores.ie Handicap Chase (Grade B) 17.5f · Good · 8 ran F/8 — 11-7 146—— J J Slevin 13/2
22 Aug 20+24d Killarney Download The BoyleSports App Handicap Chase (Grade B) 21f · Yielding · 12 ran 8/12 3 11-10 14868A120A J J Slevin 14/1
29 Jul 20+138d Galway Tote Galway Plate (handicap Chase) (grade A) 22.5f · Good To Yielding · 21 ran 13/21 7 11-1 149107C115C J J Slevin 22/1
13 Mar 20+62d Cheltenham Johnny Henderson Grand Annual Challenge Cup Handicap Chase (Grade 3) Class 1 · 16.5f · Good To Soft · 18 ran 3/18 3½ 11-5 14854B136A J J Slevin 10/1
11 Jan 20+35d Fairyhouse Dan & Joan Moore Memorial Handicap Chase (Grade A) 17f · Soft · 14 ran 8/14 3¼ 11-7 14985C121C Jody McGarvey 10/1
2019 · 7 runs
07 Dec 19+21d Navan Foxrock Handicap Chase (0-150) (Grade B) 20f · Soft · 12 ran 8/12 29 11-10 1504C128C J J Slevin 6/1
16 Nov 19+42d Cheltenham BetVictor Gold Cup Handicap Chase (Grade 3) Class 1 · 20f · Soft · 17 ran 7/17 15 11-12 152—115C J J Slevin 7/1
05 Oct 19+156d Gowran Park PWC Champion Chase (Grade 2) 20f · Yielding · 8 ran 3/8 hd 11-3 15172A137A J J Slevin 4/1
02 May 19+26d Punchestown Ryanair Novice Chase (grade 1) 16f · Yielding · 7 ran UR/7 — 11-10 151—— Shane Shortall 16/1
06 Apr 19+25d Aintree Doom Bar Maghull Novices' Chase (Grade 1) Class 1 · 16f · Good · 7 ran 2/7 1¾ 11-4 15173B147A J J Slevin 3/1J
12 Mar 19+38d Cheltenham Racing Post Arkle Challenge Trophy Novices' Chase (Grade 1) Class 1 · 16f · Soft · 12 ran 2/12 13 11-4 15276A138A J J Slevin 14/1
02 Feb 19+38d Leopardstown Frank Ward Solicitors Arkle Novice Chase (Grade 1) 17f · Good · 6 ran 2/6 7 11-10 148—131B J J Slevin 11/1
2018 · 5 runs
26 Dec 18+18d Leopardstown Racing Post Novice Chase (Grade 1) 17f · Good · 6 ran 2/6 4½ 11-12 —113A128B Shane Shortall 16/1
08 Dec 18+27d Navan Irish Stallion Farms EBF Klairon Davis Novice Chase (Grade 3) 17f · Yielding · 5 ran 2/5 10 11-0 —77C124C J J Slevin 11/4
11 Nov 18+13d Navan Irish Stallion Farms EBF Beginners Chase 17f · Good · 9 ran 1/9 11-12 —42A135A J J Slevin 5/1
29 Oct 18+230d Wexford IRIS First For Racing Footage In Ireland Beginners Chase 16f · Yielding · 11 ran 4/11 6 11-12 —64A132A Tom O'Brien 3/1
13 Mar 18+75d Cheltenham Sky Bet Supreme Novices' Hurdle (Grade 1) Class 1 · 16.5f · Heavy · 19 ran 12/19 19 11-7 13663C106C J J Slevin 28/1
2017 · 6 runs
28 Dec 17+18d Limerick Irish Independent Hurdle (Grade 3) 16f · Heavy · 4 ran 2/4 2½ 11-3 —123C145B Keith Donoghue 9/2
10 Dec 17+21d Punchestown Buy Your 2018 Annual Membership Rated Novice Hurdle 16f · Heavy · 4 ran 1/4 10-11 —110C132B J J Slevin 3/1
19 Nov 17+24d Cork www.racinghomeforeaster.com Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft To Heavy · 23 ran 1/23 11-4 —101B136A J J Slevin 10/1
26 Oct 17+193d Thurles Munster Flat Race 16f · Yielding · 15 ran 3/15 4¾ 11-10 —114B129A Mr Derek O'Connor 13/8F
16 Apr 17+42d Fairyhouse Tattersalls Ireland George Mernagh Memorial Sales Bumper 16f · Good To Yielding · 11 ran 4/11 dht 10-13 —95A127A Mr T Hamilton 12/1
05 Mar 17 Leopardstown Trm Excellence In Equine Nutrition (pro/am) Flat Race 16f · Heavy · 6 ran 2/6 7½ 11-5 ——73C Mr P W Mullins 11/4

Quick answers

How many races has Us And Them won?
Us And Them (IRE) won 3 of 40 archived starts between 2017 and 2025, a strike rate of 7.5%. Placed 14 times in total (35% of starts).
Who trained Us And Them?
Us And Them (IRE) was trained by Joe Ponting on the most recent run on record, at Taunton on 25 March 2025.
Who is Us And Them's sire?
Us And Them (IRE) is by Stowaway (GB) out of Manorville (IRE), whose sire is Flemensfirth.
What going does Us And Them prefer?
Us And Them (IRE) has the best record on heavy going: 2 wins from 5 starts (40%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Us And Them's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 100, from the run on 25 March 2025. The highest on record is 152.
What is Us And Them's sire's record?
Stowaway (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 7,190 runs since Jan 2008 (561 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 16.1% from 124.
Who are Us And Them's siblings?
Out of Manorville (IRE), Us And Them (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Mad Mike (IRE) (1). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Mad Mike (IRE)). The wins came over 2m5½f–3m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from March 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.