Horse profile
Carmens Boy (IRE)
by Simply Great (FR) out of Rathbawn Realm (GB) (Doulab)
39 runs · 20 courses · from Mar 2005
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 14 Jul 2009 — 6,314 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2009 · 10th of 15
Won at Downpatrick
Last raced off OR 80
KTB Profile
Carmens Boy (IRE) is 1 from 39. Hasn't won since Mar 2006. The win came on good or faster ground (0 from 24 on softer). Last raced off 80, 18lb below the career-high mark.
Based on 39 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance
Wins on good or faster
OR ↓ 18lb off peak
- 1–39Wins / Runs
- 2.6%Strike rate
- 5 (12.8%)Placed
- −36.00£1 level staken=39 at SP
- 0.43Fair A/E n=39 · 0.31 incl. margin
- 98Highest OR
- 41dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating80↓ 18lb off peak
80
42–98
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Simply Great (FR)
Progeny in our archive have won 7.4% of 460 runs since Jan 2008 (53 horses).
Strongest on good going: 11.4% from 140. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 1% from 101.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 6 | 0 | 0% | −7.4 | 0 from 3 |
| Good to Firm | 67 | 4 | 6% | −1.4 | 0 from 5 |
| Good | 140 | 16 | 11.4% | +4 | 1 from 7 |
| Good to Soft | 67 | 3 | 4.5% | −2.9 | 0 from 2 |
| Soft | 111 | 7 | 6.3% | −1.1 | 0 from 12 |
| Heavy | 61 | 4 | 6.6% | −0.8 | 0 from 10 |
| Standard (AW) | 8 | 0 | 0% | −7.4 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −7.4 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 10 | 1 | 10% | +2.6 | 0 from 9 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 101 | 1 | 1% | −6.4 | 0 from 13 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 141 | 4 | 2.8% | −4.6 | 1 from 16 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 141 | 13 | 9.2% | +1.8 | 0 from 1 |
| Over 3m | 66 | 15 | 22.7% | +15.3 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Dam
Rathbawn Realm (GB) (Doulab)
3 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Spirit of Sharjah (IRE) (8 wins).
The wins came over 5f–7f; the highest grade won is Listed (Spirit of Sharjah (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Spirit of Sharjah (IRE) | 59 | 8 | 5f–7f | Listed |
| Rathbawn Girl (IRE) | 16 | 1 | 5½f | Class 5 |
| Butterfly Bud (IRE) | 20 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 12 | 0 | 0% | −12.00 |
| Heavy | 10 | 0 | 0% | −10.00 |
| Good | 7 | 1 | 14% | −4.00 |
| Good to Firm | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Firm | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Downpatrick | 6 | 1 | 17% | −3.00 |
| Clonmel | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Tramore | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Roscommon | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Limerick | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Fairyhouse | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Wexford | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Thurles | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Naas | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Galway | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Kilbeggan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Warwick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tralee | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Listowel | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tipperary | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Cork | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Punchestown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Killarney | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sligo | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Down Royal | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 16 | 1 | 6% | −13.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 13 | 0 | 0% | −13.00 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stephen Gray | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| Ken Whelan | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Barry Geraghty | 4 | 1 | 25% | −1.00 |
| Andrew P Thornton | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Niall P Madden | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| T G M Ryan | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Rory Cleary | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jerry O'Dwyer | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Mr K H Clarke | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Robbie Egan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| W J Lee | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| John Cullen | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Liam Heard | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Paul Carberry | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Seamie Heffernan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Johnny Murtagh | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| E M Butterly | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Fran Berry | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| D G Hogan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tongue tie | 29 | 1 | 3% | −26.00 |
| None | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Hood + tongue tie + visor | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Tongue tie + blinkers | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2007 | 10 | 0 | 0% | −10.00 |
| 2006 | 15 | 1 | 7% | −12.00 |
| 2005 | 11 | 0 | 0% | −11.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 23 | 1 | 4% | −20.00 |
| Flat | 11 | 0 | 0% | −11.00 |
| Chase | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 · 3 runs | |||||||||
| 14 Jul 09+7d | Downpatrick | Magners Cider Handicap Hurdle (80-95) | 10/15 | 11 | 10-6 | 80 | 76C | Andrew P Thornton | 28/1 |
| 07 Jul 09+25d | Roscommon | Tote Phone Bet 1850 238 669 Handicap Hurdle (80-95) | 15/18 | ½ | 10-6 | 80 | 64A | Andrew P Thornton | 50/1 |
| 12 Jun 09+539d | Clonmel | Poulboy Handicap Hurdle (80-95) | 10/15 | 8 | 10-12 | 81 | 72C | Niall P Madden | 20/1 |
| 2007 · 10 runs | |||||||||
| 21 Dec 07+125d | Downpatrick | Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (81-102) | 6/12 | 9 | 10-1 | 81 | 74C | Mr K H Clarke | 25/1 |
| 18 Aug 07+2d | Tramore | Dobbyn & Mccoy Solicitors Claiming Race | 6/9 | 15 | 9-0 | 42 | 34C | Stephen Gray | 20/1 |
| 16 Aug 07+11d | Tramore | Sunnybank Hotel Handicap Chase (0-102) | 6/10 | 5½ | 10-10 | 84 | 69C | Ken Whelan | 14/1 |
| 05 Aug 07+56d | Galway | Corrib Village Beginners Chase | 11/18 | 30 | 11-12 | — | 91C | Ken Whelan | 33/1 |
| 10 Jun 07+8d | Roscommon | Niall Mellon Township Trust Novice Chase | 7/9 | 14 | 11-6 | — | 85C | Ken Whelan | 33/1 |
| 02 Jun 07+9d | Kilbeggan | Wines Direct Beginners Chase | 8/13 | 10 | 11-12 | — | 84C | Ken Whelan | 25/1 |
| 24 May 07+13d | Clonmel | Slievenamon Beginners Chase | F/9 | — | 11-12 | — | — | Ken Whelan | 10/1 |
| 11 May 07+25d | Downpatrick | Derrinstown Stud Apprentice Handicap (42-60) | 8/15 | 9 | 8-9 | 42 | 42C | Robbie Egan | 6/1 |
| 16 Apr 07+1d | Tramore | Dungarvan Bay Handicap (42-60) | 3/13 | nk | 8-7 | 42 | 63C | W J Lee | 16/1 |
| 15 Apr 07+107d | Tramore | Tramore Racecourse Supporters Club Handicap Hurdle (74-95) | 9/16 | shd | 10-8 | 83 | 79C | Stephen Gray | 8/1 |
| 2006 · 15 runs | |||||||||
| 29 Dec 06+44d | Limerick | O'Kelly Bros Demolition Handicap Hurdle (74-102) | 15/18 | 3½ | 10-8 | 84 | 89C | John Cullen | 10/1 |
| 15 Nov 06+7d | Warwick | Mitie Security Handicap Hurdle | 7/10 | 2½ | 11-7 | 98 | 92C | Liam Heard | 12/1 |
| 08 Nov 06+6d | Fairyhouse | Culmullin Handicap Hurdle (74-95) | 8/16 | 12 | 11-3 | 84 | 72C | Barry Geraghty | 13/2 |
| 02 Nov 06+29d | Clonmel | Powerstown Desmene Handicap Hurdle (74-102) | 4/18 | 8 | 10-13 | 85 | 99C | Paul Carberry | 8/1 |
| 04 Oct 06+10d | Tralee | Kingdom Handicap Hurdle (74-102) (Div 1) | 8/20 | 3½ | 10-12 | 87 | 76C | Stephen Gray | 16/1 |
| 24 Sep 06+27d | Listowel | Dawn Omega Milk Handicap Hurdle (74-102) | PU/17 | — | 10-12 | 87 | — | Barry Geraghty | 14/1 |
| 28 Aug 06+94d | Downpatrick | Eastwood Handicap Hurdle (74-95) | 9/11 | 15 | 10-12 | 88 | 75C | Stephen Gray | 7/1 |
| 26 May 06+15d | Wexford | Quinns Of Baltinglass Miscanthus Handicap Hurdle (81-116) | 8/16 | hd | 9-6 | 89 | 95C | Stephen Gray | 14/1 |
| 11 May 06+21d | Clonmel | Kilsheelan Handicap (40-60) | 15/15 | 2½ | 9-1 | 47 | 27C | Seamie Heffernan | 8/1 |
| 20 Apr 06+42d | Tipperary | Novice Handicap Hurdle (74-95) | 4/20 | 1½ | 11-6 | 89 | 110C | Barry Geraghty | 7/1 |
| 09 Mar 06+8d | Thurles | Prime Beef Handicap Hurdle (74-95) | 7/18 | 6 | 11-0 | 90 | 86C | Stephen Gray | 5/1 |
| 01 Mar 06+20d | Downpatrick | Justine's Restaurant Downpatrick Handicap Hurdle (74-95) | 1/15 | 11-2 | 85 | 102C | Barry Geraghty | 2/1F | |
| 09 Feb 06+18d | Thurles | Littleton Handicap Hurdle (74-102) | 2/18 | 1 | 10-6 | 82 | 95C | Niall P Madden | 12/1 |
| 22 Jan 06+14d | Cork | Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (74-102) | 5/16 | 1 | 10-10 | 83 | 100C | Stephen Gray | 9/1 |
| 08 Jan 06+12d | Naas | Annual Membership At Naas Maiden Hurdle | 11/24 | 2½ | 11-1 | 83 | 86C | Stephen Gray | 33/1 |
| 2005 · 11 runs | |||||||||
| 27 Dec 05+38d | Limerick | O'Connor Murphy Gubbins Handicap Hurdle (74-95) | 12/18 | 2 | 10-11 | 85 | 79C | Stephen Gray | 12/1 |
| 19 Nov 05+7d | Punchestown | Narraghmore Maiden Hurdle | 9/22 | ½ | 11-7 | — | 76C | Johnny Murtagh | 16/1 |
| 12 Nov 05+3d | Naas | Ardmore Blood Booster Hurdle | 8/16 | 13 | 10-11 | — | 85C | T G M Ryan | 25/1 |
| 09 Nov 05+27d | Fairyhouse | Herbertstown Maiden Hurdle | 9/16 | 4 | 11-1 | — | 88C | T G M Ryan | 20/1 |
| 13 Oct 05+15d | Tramore | Waterford & Tramore Directors Claiming Race | 6/13 | 4 | 9-6 | 54 | 44C | Rory Cleary | 12/1 |
| 28 Sep 05+79d | Downpatrick | Derrinstown Stud Apprentice Handicap (Rated 40-70) | 11/15 | ½ | 8-10 | 56 | 60C | E M Butterly | 8/1 |
| 11 Jul 05+3d | Killarney | Bank Of Ireland Handicap (36-60) (Div 2) | 8/13 | ½ | 9-8 | 59 | — | Jerry O'Dwyer | 12/1 |
| 08 Jul 05+43d | Wexford | Rosslare Handicap (36-60) | 6/13 | ½ | 9-8 | 59 | 53C | Jerry O'Dwyer | 10/1 |
| 26 May 05+31d | Clonmel | Knockmealdown Handicap (50-70) | 5/15 | 1 | 9-5 | 61 | 58C | Fran Berry | 12/1 |
| 25 Apr 05+30d | Sligo | Tuesday May 24th At Sligo Handicap (50-70) | 7/13 | 14 | 9-1 | 64 | 57C | D G Hogan | 9/1 |
| 26 Mar 05 | Down Royal | Hillsborough Handicap (50-80) | 9/16 | 4 | 8-8 | 64 | 49C | Rory Cleary | 10/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Carmens Boy won?
- Carmens Boy (IRE) won 1 of 39 archived starts between 2005 and 2009, a strike rate of 2.6%. Placed 5 times in total (12.8% of starts).
- Who trained Carmens Boy?
- Carmens Boy (IRE) was trained by James Harford on the most recent run on record, at Downpatrick on 14 July 2009.
- Who is Carmens Boy's sire?
- Carmens Boy (IRE) is by Simply Great (FR) out of Rathbawn Realm (GB), whose sire is Doulab.
- What going does Carmens Boy prefer?
- Carmens Boy (IRE) has the best record on good going: 1 win from 7 starts (14.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Carmens Boy's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 80, from the run on 14 July 2009. The highest on record is 98.
- What is Carmens Boy's sire's record?
- Simply Great (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.4% of 460 runs since Jan 2008 (53 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good going: 11.4% from 140. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 1% from 101.
- Who are Carmens Boy's siblings?
- Out of Rathbawn Realm (GB), Carmens Boy (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Spirit of Sharjah (IRE) (8). Highest grade won: Listed (Spirit of Sharjah (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–7f. As at Oct 2026.