Never Say Deya (GB)
Never Say Deya (GB) is yet to win from 16 starts, though has placed twice. Best effort: 2nd of 8 at Brighton (Sep 2006). Last raced off 45, 13lb below the career-high mark.
Progeny in our archive
As a dam, Never Say Deya (GB) has 5 produce in the archive, 2 winners — most wins Brazen Spirit (GB) (2 wins).
The wins came over 5½f–6f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Brazen Spirit (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Brazen Spirit (GB) | 23 | 2 | 5½f–6f | Class 4 |
| I T Guru (GB) | 13 | 1 | 6f | Class 6 |
| Maxamillion Bounty (GB) | 6 | 0 | — | — |
| Holli Deya (GB) | 11 | 0 | — | — |
| Valiant Arthur (GB) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
- 0–16Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 2 (12.5%)Placed
- −16.00£1 level staken=16 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=16 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 58Highest OR
- 45dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 13.7% of 11,842 runs since Jan 2008 (983 horses).
Strongest on firm going: 16.8% from 101. Weakest on heavy going: 7.9% from 428. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 9.1% from 209.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 101 | 17 | 16.8% | +3.1 | 0 from 3 |
| Good to Firm | 2,107 | 286 | 13.6% | −0.1 | 0 from 2 |
| Good | 2,966 | 424 | 14.3% | +0.6 | 0 from 4 |
| Good to Soft | 1,324 | 165 | 12.5% | −1.2 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 1,413 | 160 | 11.3% | −2.4 | 0 from 2 |
| Heavy | 428 | 34 | 7.9% | −5.8 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 3,501 | 538 | 15.4% | +1.7 | 0 from 4 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 253 | 32 | 12.6% | −1.1 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 2,309 | 291 | 12.6% | −1.1 | 0 from 4 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 2,882 | 427 | 14.8% | +1.1 | 0 from 10 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 3,796 | 558 | 14.7% | +1 | 0 from 2 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1,682 | 218 | 13% | −0.7 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 683 | 76 | 11.1% | −2.6 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 209 | 19 | 9.1% | −4.6 | — |
| Over 3m | 28 | 3 | 10.7% | −3 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
5 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Norisan (GB) (6 wins).
The wins came over 6f–2m5½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Norisan (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Norisan (GB) | 31 | 6 | 7f–2m5½f | Class 4 |
| Justbookie Dot Com (IRE) | 31 | 5 | 6f–1m½f | Class 6 |
| Dream Tonic (GB) | 16 | 3 | 1m | Class 4 |
| Deyas Dream (GB) | 10 | 0 | — | — |
| Wavertree Dream (GB) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Good | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Firm | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good to Firm | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 6 | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| Class 5 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Class 7 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class 4 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Brighton | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Ayr | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Southwell (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Kempton (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Leicester | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Redcar | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Newmarket | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Newbury | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m – 1m1f | 10 | 0 | 0% | −10.00 |
| 6f – 7f | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chris Catlin | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Tony Culhane | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Ted Durcan | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Paul Mulrennan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Liam Jones | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tadhg O'Shea | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Brett Doyle | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Robert Winston | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ryan Moore | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sam Hitchcott | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2007 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2006 | 11 | 0 | 0% | −11.00 |
| 2005 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2007 · 2 runs | |||||||||
| 11 Jun 07+32d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Heads-Up williamhillpoker.com Handicap | 7/11 | 3½ | 8-4 | 45 | 33C | Chris Catlin | 16/1 |
| 10 May 07+176d | Ayr | Concert On The 26th May Handicap | 10/18 | hd | 8-9 | 47 | 43C | Paul Mulrennan | 10/1 |
| 2006 · 11 runs | |||||||||
| 15 Nov 06+17d | Southwell (AW) | Join Us On 20th Handicap | 10/14 | 3½ | 7-11 | 55 | 29C | Liam Jones | 14/1 |
| 29 Oct 06+16d | Kempton (AW) | Panoramic Bar & Restaurant Banded Stakes | 4/14 | 2½ | 9-1 | 47 | 59C | Tadhg O'Shea | 12/1 |
| 13 Oct 06+15d | Brighton | BBi Insurance Group Handicap | 10/14 | 9 | 8-9 | 51 | 25C | Brett Doyle | 12/1 |
| 28 Sep 06+3d | Ayr | World Famous West Sound Burns Supper Handicap | 14/14 | 30 | 8-8 | 50 | 36C | Robert Winston | 11/2 |
| 25 Sep 06+34d | Brighton | HBLB Maiden Stakes | 2/8 | 1¾ | 8-12 | 50 | 81C | Chris Catlin | 6/1 |
| 22 Aug 06+12d | Brighton | Army Benevolent Fund Fillies' Handicap | 7/10 | ½ | 8-12 | 51 | 69C | Chris Catlin | 11/2 |
| 10 Aug 06+8d | Brighton | Toteexacta Median Auction Maiden Stakes | 2/3 | nk | 8-12 | 51 | — | Ryan Moore | 11/4 |
| 02 Aug 06+8d | Leicester | Mulhearn Contracts Ltd Handicap | 3/8 | 4 | 8-2 | 51 | 30C | Chris Catlin | 7/2 |
| 25 Jul 06+42d | Ayr | Join The Racing UK Club Handicap | 4/13 | 1 | 9-2 | 51 | 48C | Tony Culhane | 17/2 |
| 13 Jun 06+11d | Redcar | Go Racing At Beverley Tomorrow Handicap | 12/17 | 11 | 9-8 | 55 | 48C | Tony Culhane | 20/1 |
| 02 Jun 06+255d | Wolverhampton (AW) | World Bet Exchange wbx.com Handicap | 7/12 | nk | 9-5 | 58 | 47C | Sam Hitchcott | 14/1 |
| 2005 · 3 runs | |||||||||
| 20 Sep 05+27d | Newmarket | Astac International E.B.F. Maiden Fillies' Stakes | 11/17 | 3 | 8-11 | — | 83C | Ted Durcan | 66/1 |
| 24 Aug 05+12d | Brighton | Bad Boys Maiden Auction Stakes | 4/10 | 3 | 8-7 | — | 61C | Chris Catlin | 33/1 |
| 12 Aug 05 | Newbury | Stanjamesuk.com E.B.F. Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div 2) | 15/15 | 1 | 8-11 | — | 44C | Ted Durcan | 20/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Never Say Deya won?
- Never Say Deya (GB) has yet to win, from 16 archived starts between 2005 and 2007. Placed 2 times in total (12.5% of starts).
- Who trained Never Say Deya?
- Never Say Deya (GB) was trained by M J Wallace on the most recent run on record, at Wolverhampton (AW) on 11 June 2007.
- Who is Never Say Deya's sire?
- Never Say Deya (GB) is by Dansili (GB) out of Dream On Deya (IRE), whose sire is Dolphin Street.
- What is Never Say Deya's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 45, from the run on 11 June 2007. The highest on record is 58.
- What is Never Say Deya's sire's record?
- Dansili (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 13.7% of 11,842 runs since Jan 2008 (983 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on firm going: 16.8% from 101. Weakest on heavy going: 7.9% from 428. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 9.1% from 209.
- Who are Never Say Deya's siblings?
- Out of Dream On Deya (IRE), Never Say Deya (GB) has 5 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Norisan (GB) (6). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Norisan (GB)). The wins came over 6f–2m5½f. As at Oct 2026.
- Has Never Say Deya produced winners?
- As a dam, Never Say Deya (GB) has 5 produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Brazen Spirit (GB) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Brazen Spirit (GB)). The wins came over 5½f–6f. As at Oct 2026.