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Predetermined (IRE)

12yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2025) · Last trainer J Bertin · Last owner Jacques Bertin
by Lope De Vega (IRE) out of Queen Bodicea (IRE) (Revoque)
41 runs · 12 courses · from May 2016
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 10 Aug 2025 — 430 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2025 · 11th of 16 3 wins · Longchamp (FR), Chantilly (FR) & Deauville (FR)
KTB Profile

Predetermined won three of 41 starts between May 2016 and Aug 2025. All three wins came on turf, one at Longchamp in the Qatar Prix Miromesnil over 6f-7f on good ground in Sep 2020, one at Chantilly in the Prix de Lorraine under 6f on heavy ground in Mar 2018 and one at Deauville over 1m-1m1f on good ground in Oct 2016. The gelding, by Lope De Vega out of Queen Bodicea, last ran 11th of 16 at Deauville in Aug 2025. He reached a highest official rating of 76.

Based on 41 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance All wins on turf

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Sep 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 84A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Chester, 25 Jun 2016 Official rating 75 at the last run, 28 Jul 2016

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Flat 5 figures · best 87A · median 81
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Good to Firm1———
Soft1———
Good1———
Standard (AW)1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
6f – 7f384A81—
Under 6f1———
1m – 1m1f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 13.8% of 12,117 runs since Jan 2008 (1,097 horses).

Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 9.4% from 951.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm18422.2%+8.4—
Good to Firm1,55923815.3%+1.50 from 1
Good2,74038213.9%+0.12 from 11
Good to Soft1,54818311.8%−20 from 2
Soft1,86525213.5%−0.30 from 9
Heavy7078311.7%−2.11 from 7
Standard (AW)3,67853014.4%+0.60 from 11
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f4757114.9%+1.11 from 8
6f – 7f3,58351014.2%+0.41 from 29
1m – 1m1f3,56951314.4%+0.61 from 4
1m2f – 1m4f3,26346614.3%+0.5—
1m5f – 2m951899.4%−4.4—
2m1f – 2m4f243239.5%−4.3—
2m5f – 3m3213.1%−10.7—
Over 3m100%−13.8—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Queen Bodicea (IRE) (Revoque)

6 siblings in the archive, 6 winners — best of them Captain Dunne (IRE) (12 wins).

The wins came over 5f–1m; the highest grade won is Group 2 (Classic Blade (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Captain Dunne (IRE)100125fClass 2
Raadobarg (IRE)3257f–1mClass 2
Classic Blade (IRE)636fGroup 2
Franklin Street (IRE)711m—
Sitting Pritty (IRE)616fClass 6
Northern Queen (IRE)916fClass 6

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 11 2 18% +2.70
Standard (AW) 11 0 0% −11.00
Soft 9 0 0% −9.00
Heavy 7 1 14% −0.20
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Deauville (FR) 13 1 8% −9.90
Maisons-Laffitte (FR) 8 0 0% −8.00
Chantilly (FR) 7 1 14% −0.20
Longchamp (FR) 4 1 25% +6.60
Saint-Cloud (FR) 2 0 0% −2.00
Le Lion-D'Angers (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Compiegne (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Goodwood 1 0 0% −1.00
Haydock 1 0 0% −1.00
Chester 1 0 0% −1.00
Chelmsford City (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 29 1 3% −18.40
Under 6f 8 1 13% −1.20
1m – 1m1f 4 1 25% −0.90

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Aurelien Lemaitre 14 1 7% −7.20
Arnaud Bourgeais 6 1 17% +4.60
Hugo Lebouc 4 0 0% −4.00
Alexis Badel 3 1 33% +0.10
Tony Piccone 2 0 0% −2.00
Gregory Benoist 2 0 0% −2.00
Oisin Murphy 2 0 0% −2.00
David Probert 2 0 0% −2.00
Mme Coralie Pacaut 1 0 0% −1.00
Alexandre Roussel 1 0 0% −1.00
Jeremy Crocquevieille 1 0 0% −1.00
Vincent Vion 1 0 0% −1.00
Maxime Guyon 1 0 0% −1.00
Kieran O'Neill 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 28 3 11% −7.50
Hood 13 0 0% −13.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2025 1 0 0% −1.00
2024 1 0 0% −1.00
2023 2 0 0% −2.00
2022 3 0 0% −3.00
2021 2 0 0% −2.00
2020 5 1 20% +5.60
2019 4 0 0% −4.00
2018 3 1 33% +3.80
2017 10 0 0% −10.00
2016 10 1 10% −6.90

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
10 Aug 25+226d Deauville (FR) Prix de Clarbec - Familia Menditeguy (Handicap) (4yo+) (Straight Course) (Turf) 5.5f · Good · 16 ran 11/16 shd 8-4 —— Mme Coralie Pacaut 54/1
27 Dec 24+395d Deauville (FR) Prix des Grandes Dalles (Handicap) (4yo+) (All-Weather Track) (Polytrack) 7f · Standard · 15 ran 9/15 1 9-1 —— Hugo Lebouc 19/1
28 Nov 23+166d Deauville (FR) Prix de Gold Beach (Handicap) (3yo+) (All-Weather Track) (Polytrack) 6.5f · Standard · 14 ran 14/14 ¾ 9-1 —— Alexandre Roussel 66/1
15 Jun 23+205d Le Lion-D'Angers (FR) Prix Christian De Tredern (Conditions) (Turf) 7f · Soft · 9 ran 6/9 ½ 9-12 —— Hugo Lebouc 11/2
22 Nov 22+33d Deauville (FR) Prix de Gold Beach (Handicap) (3yo+) (All-Weather Track) (Polytrack) 6.5f · Standard · 15 ran 10/15 hd 9-4 —— Arnaud Bourgeais 16/1
20 Oct 22+39d Deauville (FR) Prix de l'Ecluse Francois I ER (Handicap) (3yo+) (Round Course) (Turf) 6f · Soft · 11 ran 3/11 hd 9-5 —— Hugo Lebouc 32/1
11 Sep 22+285d Longchamp (FR) Qatar Prix du Passage de Bourg l'Abbe Presente Par RMC (Handicap) (4yo+) (New Course) (Turf) 7f · Soft · 17 ran 15/17 1 9-1 —— Arnaud Bourgeais 11/1
30 Nov 21+79d Deauville (FR) Prix de Gold Beach (Handicap) (3yo+) (All-Weather Track) (Polytrack) 6.5f · Standard · 16 ran 14/16 2½ 8-9 —— Hugo Lebouc 86/1
12 Sep 21+303d Longchamp (FR) Qatar Prix du Passage de Bourg l'Abbe (Handicap) (4yo+) (New Course: 2nd Post) (Turf) 7f · Good · 15 ran 2/15 ¾ 9-6 —— Arnaud Bourgeais 13/2
13 Nov 20+31d Saint-Cloud (FR) Prix d'Ures (Handicap) (5yo+) (Turf) 7f · Heavy · 17 ran 9/17 5 9-4 —— Arnaud Bourgeais 30/1
13 Oct 20+30d Chantilly (FR) Prix du Livre du Roi Modus (Handicap) (3yo+) (Turf) 6f · Heavy · 13 ran 12/13 2½ 9-3 —— Arnaud Bourgeais 17/2
13 Sep 20+122d Longchamp (FR) Qatar Prix Miromesnil (Handicap) (4yo+) (New Course) (Turf) 6.5f · Good · 18 ran 1/18 9-7 —— Arnaud Bourgeais 96/10
14 May 20+127d Longchamp (FR) Prix de Glagny (Handicap) (5yo+) (Grande Course) (Turf) 8f · Good · 18 ran 9/18 1½ 8-8 —— Aurelien Lemaitre 39/1
08 Jan 20+77d Chantilly (FR) Prix du Chateau Neuf (Handicap) (4yo+) (All-Weather Track) (Polytrack) 6.5f · Standard · 15 ran 9/15 nk 9-3 —— Aurelien Lemaitre 17/1
23 Oct 19+11d Deauville (FR) Prix des Arcades (Claimer) (4yo+) (Straight Course) (Turf) 5f · Heavy · 8 ran 8/8 4 8-11 —— Tony Piccone 10/1
12 Oct 19+11d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix de l'Office de Tourisme de Maisons-Laffitte (Handicap) (3yo+) (Turf) 6f · Very Soft · 18 ran 17/18 1 8-10 —— Tony Piccone 30/1
01 Oct 19+37d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) L'Express (Claimer) (4yo+) (Turf) 4f · Soft · 11 ran 8/11 2½ 8-11 —— Aurelien Lemaitre 12/1
25 Aug 19+473d Deauville (FR) Prix Casino Barriere Trouville (Conditions) (4yo+) (All-Weather Track) (Polytrack) 7.5f · Standard · 6 ran 6/6 10 9-1 —— Aurelien Lemaitre 15/1
09 May 18+22d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix de Lambourn (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf) 5.5f · Good · 14 ran 3/14 nse 9-3 —— Gregory Benoist 59/10
17 Apr 18+19d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix du Clos de Chalais (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf) 6f · Heavy · 17 ran 7/17 shd 9-1 —— Aurelien Lemaitre 11/2
29 Mar 18+154d Chantilly (FR) Prix de Lorraine (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf) 5.5f · Heavy · 17 ran 1/17 8-13 —— Aurelien Lemaitre 58/10
26 Oct 17+13d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix du Moulin de Maisons-Laffitte (Handicap) (3yo+) (Turf) 6f · Very Soft · 12 ran 4/12 1½ 8-11 —— Aurelien Lemaitre 13/2
13 Oct 17+6d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix d'Uzes (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf) 6f · Soft · 13 ran 2/13 2½ 9-4 —— Gregory Benoist 6/1
07 Oct 17+17d Chantilly (FR) Prix de la Borne Blanche (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf) 6f · Very Soft · 16 ran 8/16 ½ 8-11 —— Aurelien Lemaitre 122/10
20 Sep 17+31d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix de Port Royal (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf) 6f · Heavy · 15 ran 5/15 ½ 9-4 —— Aurelien Lemaitre 41/5
20 Aug 17+12d Deauville (FR) Prix de Cagny (Handicap) (3yo+) (Turf) 5f · Good · 13 ran 11/13 1¼ 9-0 —— Aurelien Lemaitre 144/10
08 Aug 17+72d Deauville (FR) Prix De La Villa Millaia (Handicap) (4yo) (Polytrack) 6.5f · Fast · 16 ran 11/16 hd 9-2 —— Aurelien Lemaitre 218/10
28 May 17+18d Chantilly (FR) Prix du Potager des Princes (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf) 6f · Good · 15 ran 7/15 nk 9-2 —— Aurelien Lemaitre 61/10
10 May 17+22d Chantilly (FR) Prix du Bourget (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf) 5.5f · Good To Soft · 17 ran 5/17 ¾ 8-9 —— Aurelien Lemaitre 9/1
18 Apr 17+75d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix du Clos de Chalais (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf) 6f · Good · 17 ran 2/17 1 8-9 —— Aurelien Lemaitre 30/1
02 Feb 17+36d Chantilly (FR) Prix des Brulis (Handicap) (4yo) (Polytrack) 6.5f · Standard · 12 ran 11/12 1¾ 9-7 —— Jeremy Crocquevieille 36/1
28 Dec 16+14d Deauville (FR) Prix de Crennes (Claimer) (3yo) (Polytrack) 7.5f · Standard · 16 ran 14/16 hd 9-2 —— Vincent Vion 43/10F
14 Dec 16+47d Deauville (FR) Prix de la Pigeonniere (Conditions) (3yo) (Polytrack) 6.5f · Standard · 8 ran 8/8 10 9-0 —— Maxime Guyon 98/10
28 Oct 16+10d Compiegne (FR) Prix de la Michelette (Claimer) (3yo) (Turf) 8f · Heavy · 11 ran 8/11 3 9-2 —— Alexis Badel 3/1F
18 Oct 16+26d Deauville (FR) Prix de Cleville (Conditions) (3yo) (Round) (Turf) 8f · Good · 8 ran 1/8 9-2 —— Alexis Badel 21/10F
22 Sep 16+56d Saint-Cloud (FR) Prix Lelio (Maiden) (3yo) (Turf) 7f · Good · 11 ran 3/11 1 9-2 —— Alexis Badel 51/10
28 Jul 16+13d Goodwood Tatler Stakes (Handicap) Class 3 · 5f · Good To Firm · 19 ran 18/19 1¾ 8-2 7532A Kieran O'Neill 20/1
15 Jul 16+20d Haydock Hayburn Rock Financial Planning Ltd Handicap Class 4 · 6f · Soft · 8 ran 5/8 1¼ 8-13 7669A Oisin Murphy 4/1
25 Jun 16+24d Chester Franklin And Sons Soft Drinks Maiden Stakes Class 4 · 7.5f · Good · 7 ran 2/7 1 9-3 —84A David Probert 11/10F
01 Jun 16+19d Chelmsford City (AW) Bet totetrifecta At betfred.com Maiden Stakes (Plus 10) Class 4 · 8f · Standard · 15 ran 4/15 1¾ 9-5 —87A David Probert 16/1
13 May 16 Newbury Coolmore Stud Maiden Stakes (Plus 10) (Str) Class 4 · 7f · Good To Soft · 15 ran 4/15 1 9-5 —81A Oisin Murphy 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Predetermined (IRE) won?
Predetermined (IRE) won 3 of 41 archived starts between 2016 and 2025, a strike rate of 7.3%. Placed 10 times in total (24.4% of starts).
Who trained Predetermined (IRE)?
Predetermined (IRE) was trained by J Bertin on the most recent run on record, at Deauville (FR) on 10 August 2025.
Who is Predetermined (IRE)'s sire?
Predetermined (IRE) is by Lope De Vega (IRE) out of Queen Bodicea (IRE), whose sire is Revoque.
What going does Predetermined (IRE) prefer?
Predetermined (IRE) has the best record on good going: 2 wins from 11 starts (18.2%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Predetermined (IRE)'s official rating?
Predetermined (IRE)'s highest official rating on record is 76.
What is Predetermined (IRE)'s sire's record?
Lope De Vega (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 13.8% of 12,117 runs since Jan 2008 (1,097 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 9.4% from 951.
Who are Predetermined (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Queen Bodicea (IRE), Predetermined (IRE) has 6 other produce in our archive, 6 of them winners. Most wins: Captain Dunne (IRE) (12). Highest grade won: Group 2 (Classic Blade (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–1m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2016. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.