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Horse profile

Presque Perdre (GB)

8yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2012) · Last trainer George Moore · Last owner G R Orchard
by Desert Prince (IRE) out of Kindle (GB) (Selkirk)
26 runs · 12 courses · from Sep 2006
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 7 Mar 2012 — 5,348 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2012 · 5th of 8 4 wins · 4 courses Last raced off OR 105
KTB Profile

Presque Perdre (GB) is 4 from 26. Hasn't won since Oct 2009. Last raced off 105, 17lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 26 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 17lb off peak
Official rating105↓ 17lb off peak
105 45–122

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 112B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Newcastle, 17 Dec 2011 Official rating 105 at the last jumps run, 7 Mar 2012

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 61A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Newcastle, 15 May 2009 Official rating 47 at the last flat run, 21 Oct 2011

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 19 figures · best 134A · median 112
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good6126A111.5—
Good to Soft5134A112—
Soft3119A102—
Heavy3117A91—
Good to Firm2127A124—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f10127A116—
1m5f – 2m4134A95.5—
2m5f – 3m3130A119—
Over 3m2101C100—
Flat 7 figures · best 61A · median 44
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good249C41—
Good to Firm249C44.5—
Good to Soft1———
Heavy1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m261A55—
1m – 1m1f249C41—
6f – 7f244C38.5—
1m2f – 1m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 26 figures from 26 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Desert Prince (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,734 runs since Jan 2008 (178 horses).

Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 5.6% from 425.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm34617.6%+8.5—
Good to Firm486469.5%+0.41 from 4
Good692578.2%−0.92 from 8
Good to Soft328319.5%+0.41 from 6
Soft3863910.1%+10 from 4
Heavy168137.7%−1.40 from 4
Standard (AW)640568.8%−0.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f108109.3%+0.2—
6f – 7f456408.8%−0.30 from 2
1m – 1m1f425245.6%−3.50 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f5745910.3%+1.20 from 1
1m5f – 2m643629.6%+0.50 from 6
2m1f – 2m4f3883910.1%+13 from 10
2m5f – 3m1251310.4%+1.31 from 3
Over 3m1516.7%−2.40 from 2

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Kindle (GB) (Selkirk)

5 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Incendo (GB) (8 wins).

The wins came over 1m–2m1f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Incendo (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Incendo (GB)6481m2f–1m5fClass 4
Numero Due (GB)2971m6f–2m1fClass 4
Tourtiere (GB)2231m4f–1m4½fClass 6
Melt (IRE)2411mClass 5
Salcedo (GB)211m1½f—

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 8 2 25% +1.33
Good to Soft 6 1 17% −1.67
Soft 4 0 0% −4.00
Good to Firm 4 1 25% −2.43
Heavy 4 0 0% −4.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 14 2 14% −8.10
Class 5 6 0 0% −6.00
Class 3 3 2 67% +6.33
Class 6 3 0 0% −3.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Newcastle 9 0 0% −9.00
Catterick 5 0 0% −5.00
Sedgefield 2 1 50% −0.43
Kelso 2 1 50% −0.67
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Cheltenham 1 0 0% −1.00
Haydock 1 1 100% +7.00
Cartmel 1 1 100% +3.33
Ayr 1 0 0% −1.00
Hexham 1 0 0% −1.00
Beverley 1 0 0% −1.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 10 3 30% +0.90
1m5f – 2m 6 0 0% −6.00
2m5f – 3m 3 1 33% +1.33
Over 3m 2 0 0% −2.00
1m – 1m1f 2 0 0% −2.00
6f – 7f 2 0 0% −2.00
1m2f – 1m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Barry Keniry 13 3 23% −5.77
Phil Kinsella 3 0 0% −3.00
Danielle McCreery 2 0 0% −2.00
Jason Hart 1 0 0% −1.00
Paddy Brennan 1 0 0% −1.00
Michael O'Connell 1 1 100% +7.00
P J McDonald 1 0 0% −1.00
Campbell Gillies 1 0 0% −1.00
Joe Fanning 1 0 0% −1.00
David Allan 1 0 0% −1.00
Tony Culhane 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2012 2 0 0% −2.00
2011 4 0 0% −4.00
2009 11 4 36% +4.23
2008 3 0 0% −3.00
2007 4 0 0% −4.00
2006 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 15 4 27% +0.23
Flat 7 0 0% −7.00
Chase 4 0 0% −4.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2012 · 2 runs
07 Mar 12+66d Catterick Jp Morgan Novices' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 25f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 5/8 7 11-12 10599B Barry Keniry 10/3
01 Jan 12+15d Catterick Buy A 2012 Annual Badge Today Beginners' Chase Class 4 · 25f · Soft · 5 ran 3/5 11 11-0 —101C Barry Keniry 7/4
2011 · 4 runs
17 Dec 11+17d Newcastle Stp Construction Beginners' Chase Class 4 · 23.5f · Good To Soft · 4 ran 2/4 10 11-0 —112B Barry Keniry 7/1
30 Nov 11+22d Catterick Racinguk.com Beginners' Chase Class 5 · 19f · Good · 8 ran 4/8 3 11-3 —108A Barry Keniry 28/1
08 Nov 11+18d Sedgefield John Smith's No Nonsense Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 19f · Good · 11 ran 10/11 3 11-5 11394C Barry Keniry 10/1
21 Oct 11+705d Doncaster Racing Post / SIS Betting Shop Manager Handicap Class 4 · 14.5f · Good · 18 ran 18/18 3½ 8-2 4749C Jason Hart 50/1
2009 · 11 runs
15 Nov 09+18d Cheltenham Paddy Power Intermediate Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 21f · Soft · 17 ran 7/17 2½ 11-0 122119A Paddy Brennan 14/1
28 Oct 09+158d Haydock Subscribe On Line At racinguk.com Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 20.5f · Good · 10 ran 1/10 10-4 117122A Michael O'Connell 7/1
23 May 09+8d Cartmel Moffatts Damson Gin Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 22f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 1/8 11-12 117130A Barry Keniry 10/3
15 May 09+16d Newcastle Ceramic Tile Distributors Handicap Class 5 · 16f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 4/13 2¼ 8-6 4561A P J McDonald 7/2
29 Apr 09+30d Kelso Andersons Farm Business Consultants Novices' Hurdle Class 3 · 18f · Good · 6 ran 1/6 11-4 113115B Barry Keniry 1/3F
30 Mar 09+6d Newcastle Business Networking Raceday 27th April Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 20.5f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 2/9 1¾ 11-8 113127A Barry Keniry 10/11F
24 Mar 09+10d Sedgefield Lloyds TSB Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 19f · Good To Firm · 11 ran 1/11 11-1 113121A Barry Keniry 4/7F
14 Mar 09+11d Newcastle Bet365.com Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 20.5f · Good · 18 ran 3/18 nk 11-6 109126A Campbell Gillies 8/1
03 Mar 09+12d Newcastle Ncfe Qualifications Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Soft · 17 ran 4/17 ½ 11-10 108134A Barry Keniry 25/1
19 Feb 09+22d Ayr Blue Square Sp Guarantee Maiden Hurdle Class 5 · 20f · Soft · 14 ran 8/14 7 11-3 108102A Barry Keniry 16/1
28 Jan 09+70d Newcastle Gosforth Decorating And Building Services Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 20.5f · Heavy · 14 ran 2/14 5 10-12 108117A Barry Keniry 40/1
2008 · 3 runs
19 Nov 08+281d Hexham Totetrifecta Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Heavy · 7 ran 7/7 3¼ 11-6 9986A Barry Keniry 20/1
12 Feb 08+16d Newcastle Saltwell Signs Maiden Hurdle (Div 2) Class 5 · 16f · Good To Soft · 16 ran 3/16 2 10-7 99100A Phil Kinsella 18/1
27 Jan 08+53d Kelso John Smith's Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Heavy · 9 ran 4/9 9 10-7 11391B Phil Kinsella 50/1
2007 · 4 runs
05 Dec 07+119d Catterick Ellerton Juvenile Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 15.5f · Good · 13 ran 9/13 1½ 10-9 —85C Phil Kinsella 33/1
08 Aug 07+22d Newcastle ESH Charitable Trust Apprentice Handicap Class 6 · 10f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 5/7 2½ 8-7 4540C Danielle McCreery 28/1
17 Jul 07+34d Beverley Stars Of The Future Apprentice Handicap Class 6 · 8.5f · Heavy · 12 ran 7/12 ½ 8-4 4533C Danielle McCreery 40/1
13 Jun 07+242d Nottingham visitnottingham.com Maiden Stakes (Div 1) Class 5 · 8f · Good To Firm · 11 ran 7/11 6 9-0 —49C Joe Fanning 80/1
2006 · 2 runs
14 Oct 06+17d Catterick Tote Text Betting 60021 Median Auction Maiden Stakes Class 6 · 7f · Soft · 13 ran 9/13 3 9-3 —44C David Allan 100/1
27 Sep 06 Newcastle EBF/Northgate Vehicle Hire Maiden Stks Class 5 · 6f · Good · 15 ran 12/15 8 9-3 —33C Tony Culhane 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Presque Perdre won?
Presque Perdre (GB) won 4 of 26 archived starts between 2006 and 2012, a strike rate of 15.4%. Placed 9 times in total (34.6% of starts).
Who trained Presque Perdre?
Presque Perdre (GB) was trained by George Moore on the most recent run on record, at Catterick on 7 March 2012.
Who is Presque Perdre's sire?
Presque Perdre (GB) is by Desert Prince (IRE) out of Kindle (GB), whose sire is Selkirk.
What going does Presque Perdre prefer?
Presque Perdre (GB) has the best record on good going: 2 wins from 8 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Presque Perdre's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 105, from the run on 7 March 2012. The highest on record is 122.
What is Presque Perdre's sire's record?
Desert Prince (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,734 runs since Jan 2008 (178 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 5.6% from 425.
Who are Presque Perdre's siblings?
Out of Kindle (GB), Presque Perdre (GB) has 5 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Incendo (GB) (8). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Incendo (GB)). The wins came over 1m–2m1f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from September 2006. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.