Horse profile
Presque Perdre (GB)
by Desert Prince (IRE) out of Kindle (GB) (Selkirk)
26 runs · 12 courses · from Sep 2006
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 7 Mar 2012 — 5,348 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2012 · 5th of 8
4 wins · 4 courses
Last raced off OR 105
KTB Profile
Presque Perdre (GB) is 4 from 26. Hasn't won since Oct 2009. Last raced off 105, 17lb below the career-high mark.
Based on 26 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance
OR ↓ 17lb off peak
- 4–26Wins / Runs
- 15.4%Strike rate
- 9 (34.6%)Placed
- −10.77£1 level staken=26 at SP
- 1.15Fair A/E n=26 · 1.02 incl. margin
- 122Highest OR
- 80dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating105↓ 17lb off peak
105
45–122
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Desert Prince (IRE)
Progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,734 runs since Jan 2008 (178 horses).
Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 5.6% from 425.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 34 | 6 | 17.6% | +8.5 | — |
| Good to Firm | 486 | 46 | 9.5% | +0.4 | 1 from 4 |
| Good | 692 | 57 | 8.2% | −0.9 | 2 from 8 |
| Good to Soft | 328 | 31 | 9.5% | +0.4 | 1 from 6 |
| Soft | 386 | 39 | 10.1% | +1 | 0 from 4 |
| Heavy | 168 | 13 | 7.7% | −1.4 | 0 from 4 |
| Standard (AW) | 640 | 56 | 8.8% | −0.3 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 108 | 10 | 9.3% | +0.2 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 456 | 40 | 8.8% | −0.3 | 0 from 2 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 425 | 24 | 5.6% | −3.5 | 0 from 2 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 574 | 59 | 10.3% | +1.2 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 643 | 62 | 9.6% | +0.5 | 0 from 6 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 388 | 39 | 10.1% | +1 | 3 from 10 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 125 | 13 | 10.4% | +1.3 | 1 from 3 |
| Over 3m | 15 | 1 | 6.7% | −2.4 | 0 from 2 |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Dam
Kindle (GB) (Selkirk)
5 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Incendo (GB) (8 wins).
The wins came over 1m–2m1f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Incendo (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Incendo (GB) | 64 | 8 | 1m2f–1m5f | Class 4 |
| Numero Due (GB) | 29 | 7 | 1m6f–2m1f | Class 4 |
| Tourtiere (GB) | 22 | 3 | 1m4f–1m4½f | Class 6 |
| Melt (IRE) | 24 | 1 | 1m | Class 5 |
| Salcedo (GB) | 2 | 1 | 1m1½f | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 8 | 2 | 25% | +1.33 |
| Good to Soft | 6 | 1 | 17% | −1.67 |
| Soft | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Good to Firm | 4 | 1 | 25% | −2.43 |
| Heavy | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 14 | 2 | 14% | −8.10 |
| Class 5 | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Class 3 | 3 | 2 | 67% | +6.33 |
| Class 6 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Newcastle | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| Catterick | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Sedgefield | 2 | 1 | 50% | −0.43 |
| Kelso | 2 | 1 | 50% | −0.67 |
| Doncaster | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Cheltenham | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Haydock | 1 | 1 | 100% | +7.00 |
| Cartmel | 1 | 1 | 100% | +3.33 |
| Ayr | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Hexham | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Beverley | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Nottingham | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 10 | 3 | 30% | +0.90 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 3 | 1 | 33% | +1.33 |
| Over 3m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 6f – 7f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Barry Keniry | 13 | 3 | 23% | −5.77 |
| Phil Kinsella | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Danielle McCreery | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jason Hart | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Paddy Brennan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Michael O'Connell | 1 | 1 | 100% | +7.00 |
| P J McDonald | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Campbell Gillies | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Joe Fanning | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| David Allan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tony Culhane | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2012 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2011 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2009 | 11 | 4 | 36% | +4.23 |
| 2008 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2007 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2006 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 15 | 4 | 27% | +0.23 |
| Flat | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Chase | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2012 · 2 runs | |||||||||
| 07 Mar 12+66d | Catterick | Jp Morgan Novices' Handicap Chase | 5/8 | 7 | 11-12 | 105 | 99B | Barry Keniry | 10/3 |
| 01 Jan 12+15d | Catterick | Buy A 2012 Annual Badge Today Beginners' Chase | 3/5 | 11 | 11-0 | — | 101C | Barry Keniry | 7/4 |
| 2011 · 4 runs | |||||||||
| 17 Dec 11+17d | Newcastle | Stp Construction Beginners' Chase | 2/4 | 10 | 11-0 | — | 112B | Barry Keniry | 7/1 |
| 30 Nov 11+22d | Catterick | Racinguk.com Beginners' Chase | 4/8 | 3 | 11-3 | — | 108A | Barry Keniry | 28/1 |
| 08 Nov 11+18d | Sedgefield | John Smith's No Nonsense Handicap Hurdle | 10/11 | 3 | 11-5 | 113 | 94C | Barry Keniry | 10/1 |
| 21 Oct 11+705d | Doncaster | Racing Post / SIS Betting Shop Manager Handicap | 18/18 | 3½ | 8-2 | 47 | 49C | Jason Hart | 50/1 |
| 2009 · 11 runs | |||||||||
| 15 Nov 09+18d | Cheltenham | Paddy Power Intermediate Handicap Hurdle | 7/17 | 2½ | 11-0 | 122 | 119A | Paddy Brennan | 14/1 |
| 28 Oct 09+158d | Haydock | Subscribe On Line At racinguk.com Handicap Hurdle | 1/10 | 10-4 | 117 | 122A | Michael O'Connell | 7/1 | |
| 23 May 09+8d | Cartmel | Moffatts Damson Gin Novices' Hurdle | 1/8 | 11-12 | 117 | 130A | Barry Keniry | 10/3 | |
| 15 May 09+16d | Newcastle | Ceramic Tile Distributors Handicap | 4/13 | 2¼ | 8-6 | 45 | 61A | P J McDonald | 7/2 |
| 29 Apr 09+30d | Kelso | Andersons Farm Business Consultants Novices' Hurdle | 1/6 | 11-4 | 113 | 115B | Barry Keniry | 1/3F | |
| 30 Mar 09+6d | Newcastle | Business Networking Raceday 27th April Novices' Hurdle | 2/9 | 1¾ | 11-8 | 113 | 127A | Barry Keniry | 10/11F |
| 24 Mar 09+10d | Sedgefield | Lloyds TSB Novices' Hurdle | 1/11 | 11-1 | 113 | 121A | Barry Keniry | 4/7F | |
| 14 Mar 09+11d | Newcastle | Bet365.com Handicap Hurdle | 3/18 | nk | 11-6 | 109 | 126A | Campbell Gillies | 8/1 |
| 03 Mar 09+12d | Newcastle | Ncfe Qualifications Handicap Hurdle | 4/17 | ½ | 11-10 | 108 | 134A | Barry Keniry | 25/1 |
| 19 Feb 09+22d | Ayr | Blue Square Sp Guarantee Maiden Hurdle | 8/14 | 7 | 11-3 | 108 | 102A | Barry Keniry | 16/1 |
| 28 Jan 09+70d | Newcastle | Gosforth Decorating And Building Services Novices' Hurdle | 2/14 | 5 | 10-12 | 108 | 117A | Barry Keniry | 40/1 |
| 2008 · 3 runs | |||||||||
| 19 Nov 08+281d | Hexham | Totetrifecta Handicap Hurdle | 7/7 | 3¼ | 11-6 | 99 | 86A | Barry Keniry | 20/1 |
| 12 Feb 08+16d | Newcastle | Saltwell Signs Maiden Hurdle (Div 2) | 3/16 | 2 | 10-7 | 99 | 100A | Phil Kinsella | 18/1 |
| 27 Jan 08+53d | Kelso | John Smith's Juvenile Novices' Hurdle | 4/9 | 9 | 10-7 | 113 | 91B | Phil Kinsella | 50/1 |
| 2007 · 4 runs | |||||||||
| 05 Dec 07+119d | Catterick | Ellerton Juvenile Novices' Hurdle | 9/13 | 1½ | 10-9 | — | 85C | Phil Kinsella | 33/1 |
| 08 Aug 07+22d | Newcastle | ESH Charitable Trust Apprentice Handicap | 5/7 | 2½ | 8-7 | 45 | 40C | Danielle McCreery | 28/1 |
| 17 Jul 07+34d | Beverley | Stars Of The Future Apprentice Handicap | 7/12 | ½ | 8-4 | 45 | 33C | Danielle McCreery | 40/1 |
| 13 Jun 07+242d | Nottingham | visitnottingham.com Maiden Stakes (Div 1) | 7/11 | 6 | 9-0 | — | 49C | Joe Fanning | 80/1 |
| 2006 · 2 runs | |||||||||
| 14 Oct 06+17d | Catterick | Tote Text Betting 60021 Median Auction Maiden Stakes | 9/13 | 3 | 9-3 | — | 44C | David Allan | 100/1 |
| 27 Sep 06 | Newcastle | EBF/Northgate Vehicle Hire Maiden Stks | 12/15 | 8 | 9-3 | — | 33C | Tony Culhane | 25/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Presque Perdre won?
- Presque Perdre (GB) won 4 of 26 archived starts between 2006 and 2012, a strike rate of 15.4%. Placed 9 times in total (34.6% of starts).
- Who trained Presque Perdre?
- Presque Perdre (GB) was trained by George Moore on the most recent run on record, at Catterick on 7 March 2012.
- Who is Presque Perdre's sire?
- Presque Perdre (GB) is by Desert Prince (IRE) out of Kindle (GB), whose sire is Selkirk.
- What going does Presque Perdre prefer?
- Presque Perdre (GB) has the best record on good going: 2 wins from 8 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Presque Perdre's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 105, from the run on 7 March 2012. The highest on record is 122.
- What is Presque Perdre's sire's record?
- Desert Prince (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,734 runs since Jan 2008 (178 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 5.6% from 425.
- Who are Presque Perdre's siblings?
- Out of Kindle (GB), Presque Perdre (GB) has 5 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Incendo (GB) (8). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Incendo (GB)). The wins came over 1m–2m1f. As at Oct 2026.