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Talkingtonbates (IRE)

8yo gelding (at last run, May 2009) · Last trainer Thomas Mullins · Last owner Rory F Larkin
by Accordion (IRE) out of Dedham Gale (IRE) (Strong Gale)
23 runs · 17 courses · from Apr 2005
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 27 May 2009 — 6,356 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2009 Last raced off OR 92
KTB Profile

Talkingtonbates (IRE) is yet to win from 23 starts, though has placed 9 times. Best effort: 2nd of 18 at Thurles (Nov 2008). Last raced off 92, 18lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 23 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 18lb off peak
Official rating92↓ 18lb off peak
92 85–110

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 105A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Clonmel, 5 Feb 2009 Official rating 92 at the last jumps run, 27 May 2009

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 49C the best of the last 1 rated run · Sligo, 28 Jun 2005

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 19 figures · best 123C · median 98
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Soft5120A95—
Good to Firm5123C105—
Heavy4119A96—
Good3114C109—
Good to Soft1———
Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f8109C95.5—
2m5f – 3m6123C112—
1m5f – 2m5119A105—
Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 23 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 20 figures from 23 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Accordion (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.8% of 3,309 runs since Jan 2008 (327 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2015%−5.80 from 2
Good to Firm2642710.2%−0.60 from 5
Good9379910.6%−0.20 from 4
Good to Soft576549.4%−1.40 from 1
Soft89011012.4%+1.60 from 6
Heavy5916511%+0.20 from 5
Standard (AW)3113.2%−7.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f500%−10.8—
1m – 1m1f300%−10.8—
1m2f – 1m4f4648.7%−2.1—
1m5f – 2m7919011.4%+0.60 from 6
2m1f – 2m4f1,23214011.4%+0.60 from 9
2m5f – 3m9399610.2%−0.60 from 8
Over 3m293279.2%−1.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Dedham Gale (IRE) (Strong Gale)

4 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Malin Head (IRE) (1 win).

The wins came over 2m5f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Malin Head (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Malin Head (IRE)1112m5fClass 5
Topham Gale (IRE)10——
Alan's Legacy (IRE)50——
Keysers Hill (IRE)70——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 6 0 0% −6.00
Heavy 5 0 0% −5.00
Good to Firm 5 0 0% −5.00
Good 4 0 0% −4.00
Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Punchestown 3 0 0% −3.00
Leopardstown 2 0 0% −2.00
Naas 2 0 0% −2.00
Downpatrick 2 0 0% −2.00
Cork 2 0 0% −2.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00
Clonmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Thurles 1 0 0% −1.00
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00
Roscommon 1 0 0% −1.00
Kilbeggan 1 0 0% −1.00
Down Royal 1 0 0% −1.00
Bellewstown 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Tipperary 1 0 0% −1.00
Wexford 1 0 0% −1.00
Sligo 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 9 0 0% −9.00
2m5f – 3m 8 0 0% −8.00
1m5f – 2m 6 0 0% −6.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Barry Geraghty 3 0 0% −3.00
Mr P McNeilly 3 0 0% −3.00
Mr R A Latta 2 0 0% −2.00
Davy Russell 2 0 0% −2.00
Paul Carberry 2 0 0% −2.00
S M McGovern 2 0 0% −2.00
Rob McCarth 1 0 0% −1.00
Alain Cawley 1 0 0% −1.00
Paul Townend 1 0 0% −1.00
Conor Maxwell 1 0 0% −1.00
A E Lynch 1 0 0% −1.00
R Walsh 1 0 0% −1.00
Jack Doyle 1 0 0% −1.00
J P Elliott 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr T G Freyne 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 16 0 0% −16.00
Tongue tie 7 0 0% −7.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2009 4 0 0% −4.00
2008 6 0 0% −6.00
2006 6 0 0% −6.00
2005 7 0 0% −7.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 20 0 0% −20.00
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00
Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
27 May 09+42d Punchestown Tote Sports Lounge Handicap Hurdle (81-109) 18f · Soft · 24 ran F/24 — 10-5 92— Rob McCarth 14/1
15 Apr 09+69d Fairyhouse Eimer Hannon Travel Fegentri (q.r) Handicap Hurdle (81-109) 20f · Soft · 25 ran 5/25 17 10-9 9393A Mr R A Latta 12/1
05 Feb 09+11d Clonmel Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 16f · Heavy · 14 ran 3/14 21 11-12 93105A Alain Cawley 6/1
25 Jan 09+30d Leopardstown Stillorgan Handicap Hurdle (81-123) 22f · Heavy · 24 ran PU/24 — 9-11 93— Paul Townend 12/1
26 Dec 08+29d Leopardstown Durkan New Homes Handicap Hurdle (81-116) 18f · Soft · 18 ran 5/18 4 9-11 9398A Mr R A Latta 12/1
27 Nov 08+33d Thurles Munster Handicap Hurdle (77-90) 22.5f · Soft · 18 ran 2/18 5 11-12 89120A Davy Russell 5/1
25 Oct 08+10d Naas Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (81-102) 16f · Soft To Heavy · 22 ran 3/22 1½ 10-6 86119A Conor Maxwell 16/1
15 Oct 08+18d Punchestown 2009 Five Day Festival Handicap Hurdle (81-109) 20f · Soft To Heavy · 25 ran 14/25 3 10-6 8887C A E Lynch 10/1
27 Sep 08+53d Navan Drogheda Handicap Hurdle (77-90) 22f · Good To Yielding · 26 ran 4/26 shd 11-8 86110A Davy Russell 9/1
05 Aug 08+678d Roscommon Keogh's Bar Longford Maiden Hurdle 20.5f · Soft · 18 ran 9/18 7 11-4 8695A R Walsh 14/1
27 Sep 06+12d Downpatrick Coca Cola Maiden Hurdle 22f · Good · 15 ran 3/15 nk 11-4 110109C Paul Carberry 9/4
15 Sep 06+14d Kilbeggan Www.kilbegganraces.com Maiden Hurdle 22f · Good · 16 ran 2/16 3½ 11-4 93114C Barry Geraghty 6/1
01 Sep 06+25d Down Royal Winning Post Cafe (QR) Handicap Hurdle (74-102) 24f · Good · 17 ran BD/17 — 11-1 92— Jack Doyle 5/1
07 Aug 06+31d Cork Cork Handicap Hurdle (74-109) 20f · Good To Firm · 16 ran 2/16 nk 11-4 89109C Paul Carberry 11/2
07 Jul 06+26d Bellewstown Handicap Hurdle 74-102 20f · Firm · 14 ran 2/14 1½ 10-10 8698C Barry Geraghty 5/2F
11 Jun 06+210d Cork Mourne Abbey Handicap Hurdle (81-123) 20f · Good To Firm · 14 ran 3/14 1½ 9-11 8594C J P Elliott 16/1
13 Nov 05+59d Limerick Keanes Jewellers (Q.R.) Handicap Hurdle (74-95) 21f · Heavy · 18 ran 11/18 4 11-3 8778C Mr T G Freyne 12/1
15 Sep 05+19d Tipperary Premier County Maiden Hurdle 16f · Good · 20 ran 14/20 3 11-4 —85C S M McGovern 10/1
27 Aug 05+20d Wexford Tote Ireland 75th Anniversary Maiden Hurdle 18f · Good To Firm · 16 ran 4/16 3½ 11-2 —96C Barry Geraghty 4/1
07 Aug 05+18d Downpatrick Www.patohare.com Maiden Hurdle 22f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 4/9 1½ 10-11 —123C S M McGovern 7/1
20 Jul 05+22d Naas Go Racing At Naas INH Flat Race 16f · Good To Firm · 22 ran 7/22 3½ 11-0 —105C Mr P McNeilly 10/1
28 Jun 05+63d Sligo Harry's Bar Rosses Point (C&G) INH Flat Race 16f · Firm · 14 ran 5/14 nk 10-13 —49C Mr P McNeilly 12/1
26 Apr 05 Punchestown Murphy International (Pro-Am) INH Flat Race 16f · Soft · 25 ran 16/25 2 11-0 —86C Mr P McNeilly 14/1

Quick answers

How many races has Talkingtonbates (IRE) won?
Talkingtonbates (IRE) has yet to win, from 23 archived starts between 2005 and 2009. Placed 9 times in total (39.1% of starts).
Who trained Talkingtonbates (IRE)?
Talkingtonbates (IRE) was trained by Thomas Mullins on the most recent run on record, at Punchestown on 27 May 2009.
Who is Talkingtonbates (IRE)'s sire?
Talkingtonbates (IRE) is by Accordion (IRE) out of Dedham Gale (IRE), whose sire is Strong Gale.
What is Talkingtonbates (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 92, from the run on 27 May 2009. The highest on record is 110.
What is Talkingtonbates (IRE)'s sire's record?
Accordion (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.8% of 3,309 runs since Jan 2008 (327 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Talkingtonbates (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Dedham Gale (IRE), Talkingtonbates (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Malin Head (IRE) (1). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Malin Head (IRE)). The wins came over 2m5f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from April 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.