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P Chemin & C Herpin

85 runners in the lifetime window · 43 individual horses
As at 12 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: 2005–present, updated daily
Last runner Jun 2022
Last 5 seasons Lifetime (2017→)
from 1 Jan 2008 — the aggregate floor: every horse in the window has a complete captured career behind it
8–85
Wins / Runs
9.4%
Strike rate
n=85
18 (21%)
Placed
1.27
Fair A/E
n=73 · 1.32 incl. margin
−14.00
£1 level stake
n=75 at SP · −18.7%
£230k
Prize money (window)
Strike by season
0%
KTB at a glance Fresh horses: 13.5%

Yard patterns

the angles behind the record · vs 9.4% baseline
Fresh · 61+ days off
13.5%+4.1
n=37 · A/E 1.26 · £1 −5.70
New recruits · first run for the yard
18.8%+9.4
n=16 · A/E 2.49 · £1 +4.80
Debutants · first career start
3.7%−5.7
n=27 · A/E 0.82 · £1 −15.30
First-time headgear · true-first definition
7.1%−2.3
n=14 · A/E 0.00 · £1 −6.20
Headgear returns · back on after a bare run
0%−9.4
n=2 · A/E 0.00 · £1 −2.00
When favourite
75%
n=4 · A/E 1.80 · £1 +11.50
Claiming riders · a claimer in the saddle
0%−9.4
n=12 · A/E 0.00 · £1 −9.00
Group / Graded races · pattern & listed
0%−9.4
n=15 · A/E 0.00 · £1 −15.00

Each tile is the record in that situation vs the 9.4% baseline — descriptive splits with the sample always shown, for you to weigh. Tiles under 30 runs render muted. Headgear figures use the true-first definition (first gear appearance in the captured career); returns are gear back on after a bare run. Claiming riders are runs where the booked rider carried a weight claim. Group / Graded covers pattern and listed races. The same beliefs, tested across every yard and every GB and Irish race since 2005: Racing myths.

Notable angles

vs their own baseline
On Soft going 6.1% vs 9.4% · n=33
With a new jockey booking 7.3% vs 9.4% · n=55
Descriptive splits ranked by divergence × sample — insight, not instruction. Every angle carries its N; nothing under 30 runs qualifies. Rows within 2pts of the baseline appear only when the market-relative read (Fair A/E) diverges, and show it.

Record by conditions

same window as header

Race type

TypeRWSR£1
Flat 36 3 8.3% −2.80
Chase 27 3 11.1% −7.40
Hurdle 22 2 9.1% −3.80

Going

GoingRWSR£1
Soft 33 2 6.1% −17.20
Heavy 16 1 6.3% −7.30
Good to Soft 15 1 6.7% −4.50
Good 14 3 21.4% +13.00
Standard (AW) 7 1 14.3% +2.00

Courses

CourseRWSR£1
Auteuil (FR) 14 1 7.1% −8.30
Dieppe (FR) 13 1 7.7% −4.90
Chantilly (FR) 9 1 11.1% +0.00
Longchamp (FR) 9 0 0% −9.00
Compiegne (FR) 8 1 12.5% −2.30
Deauville (FR) 6 0 0% −6.00
Maisons-Laffitte (FR) 4 0 0% −4.00
Le Touquet (FR) 3 1 33.3% +2.80
Vittel 3 1 33.3% +5.50
Saint-Cloud (FR) 3 1 33.3% +16.00
Strasbourg (FR) 3 0 0% −3.00
Saint-Brieuc (FR) 2 0 0% —
Chateaubriant (FR) 2 0 0% −2.00
Le Pin au Haras (FR) 2 0 0% —
Saint-Malo 1 0 0% —

Class

ClassRWSR£1
Class 1 15 0 0% −15.00

Market position

In the bettingRWSRA/E£1
Favourite 4 3 75% 1.80 +11.50
2nd–3rd fav 10 3 30% 2.31 +7.50
4th–6th fav 22 1 4.5% 0.58 −13.00
7th+ in betting 39 1 2.6% 0.87 −20.00
Fair A/E per band is the tell: near 1.00 the market had it priced right; well above, the wins came where the market didn't expect them.

Rows below n=30 are shown faded — a small sample is a fact, not a trend. Every figure carries its N.

Horses trained

same window as header · most-raced first
HorseRWPlLast ran
Line Des Ongrais (FR)from P Chemin 15 2 2 5 Oct 19
Vaudou Des Ongrais (FR)from P Chemin 6 0 2 26 Jul 19
Clodie Des Ongrais (FR) 4 1 1 1 Jun 21
Betty De Juilley (FR)then C Herpin 4 1 2 23 Jun 20
Enzo Des Ongrais (FR) 3 1 1 26 Sep 21
Dino Des Ongrais (FR)from P Chemin 3 0 1 17 May 20
Cristaline Du Repa (FR)from P Chemin 3 1 2 26 Oct 17
Elton Des Ongrais (FR) 2 0 0 19 Nov 21
Gasby Des Planches (FR)then C Herpin 2 0 0 29 Oct 21
Rappeur Des Mottes (FR)from E Lellouche · then C Herpin 2 0 0 18 Oct 21
Mistral Des Noes (FR) 2 0 0 26 Sep 21
Fleche Des Ongrais (FR) 2 0 0 16 May 21
All 43 horses sent out in this window. Runs, wins and places only: a strike rate or a return on a handful of runs is noise, so none is quoted per horse — each horse's full record is on its own page.
Where they came from · where they went next

Of the 43 horses listed, 16 arrived from another yard in our archive, most often from P Chemin (10); 27 had their first archived run for this yard.

7 have since run for another yard, most often for C Herpin (5); 36 have no later run for another yard in our archive.

Read from each listed horse's whole archived career (2005 onwards), not only this window, and counted over the horses listed above, not the whole string. “First archived run” means our archive holds nothing earlier, not that the horse was unraced. A horse with no later run elsewhere may still be here, be off the track, or have run somewhere our archive does not cover — none of that is asserted.

When the yard fires

strike by month, lifetime
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Muted months are small samples (under 30 runs) — read them with the caution they deserve.

Jockey bookings

same window · biggest samples first
RiderRWSR£1
Morgan Delalande 27 3 11.1% +4.20
Jean-Stephane Lebrun 18 2 11.1% −3.20
Stephane Paillard 14 2 14.3% +1.20
Mr Romain Lemiere 5 0 0% −3.00
Felix De Giles 3 0 0% −3.00
Emmanuel Etienne 3 0 0% −3.00
Erwann Bougon Bougeard 2 0 0% —
Benjamin Berenguer 2 0 0% −1.00
Williams Saraiva 2 0 0% −2.00
Mr Frederick Tett 1 0 0% —
Mr Thomas Guineheux 1 1 100% +2.80
Marc-Antoine Dragon 1 0 0% −1.00
Muted rows are under 30 rides.

Career highlights

lifetime archive, 2017→
8
Archived wins
£230k
Prize money
2019
Best season · 3 wins
Line Des Ongrais (FR) — Prix de Montigny (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf) Saint-Cloud (FR) · Jun 2017
£20,889
Cristaline Du Repa (FR) — Prix Pierre Cypres (Hurdle) (AQPS Conditions) (4-5yo Fillies & Mares) (Turf) Auteuil (FR) · Sep 2017
£19,692
Line Des Ongrais (FR) — Prix Fantomas (Handicap) (4yo+) (Polytrack) Chantilly (FR) · May 2017
£10,444
Notable horses
Line Des Ongrais (FR) Clodie Des Ongrais (FR) Betty De Juilley (FR) Enzo Des Ongrais (FR) Cristaline Du Repa (FR) Valseur De Sarti (FR)

Sires in the string

progeny record · win % by ground and trip
Voix Du Nord (FR) 13.3% · 2–15
Progeny have won 16.8% of 2,009 runs since 2010 (167 horses). Strongest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 20.1% from 497. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 12.7% from 339.
Crillon (FR) 16.7% · 1–6
Progeny have won 14.2% of 981 runs since 2009 (97 horses).
Della Francesca (USA) 0% · 0–6
Progeny have won 10% of 1,477 runs since 2008 (172 horses). Strongest on Good going: 13% from 338. Strongest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 16% from 100. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 6.3% from 160.
Saddex (GB) 20% · 1–5
Progeny have won 10.4% of 817 runs since 2012 (112 horses). Strongest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 17.4% from 161.
Indian Daffodil (IRE) 25% · 1–4
Progeny have won 11.7% of 77 runs since 2016 (16 horses).
Kendargent (FR) 25% · 1–4
Progeny have won 9.6% of 5,255 runs since 2011 (580 horses). Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 5.9% from 256.
Top line: the yard's own record with each sire's runners (win %, wins–runs), same window as the header; faded under 30 runs. Beneath it: every run by that sire's progeny in our archive since 2008, as at 12 Nov 2026 — what they have done, not a forecast. A going or a distance is named only where at least 100 progeny runs sit 3 or more points from the sire's own win rate. Distance bands cover Flat and jumps together.

The record

latest 50 of 85 · newest first

The latest 50 of 85 archived runners, newest first. The full record runs from 7 May 2017 to 22 June 2022.

DateCourseHorseRaceFinishSP
22 Jun 22 Auteuil (FR) Iguane Des Ongrais (FR)J: Paul Denis Prix Colombelles (Chase) (Claimer) (4yo) (Turf)18.5f · Very Soft · 9 ran 4th 20/1
19 Nov 21 Chantilly (FR) Elton Des Ongrais (FR)J: Jacky Nicoleau Prix du Clos de la Barre (Conditions) (4yo+) (All-Weather Track) (Polytrack)13.5f · Standard · 12 ran 11th 50/1
29 Oct 21 Auteuil (FR) Gasby Des Planches (FR)J: Stephane Paillard Prix Ferdinand Riant (Chase) (AQPS Conditions) (5yo) (Turf)22f · Heavy · 7 ran 6th 11/1
18 Oct 21 Compiegne (FR) Rappeur Des Mottes (FR)J: Stephane Paillard Prix Francois de Chevigny (Chase) (Conditions) (5yo+) (Turf)23.5f · Heavy · 8 ran PU 15/2
26 Sep 21 Le Touquet (FR) Mistral Des Noes (FR)J: Mr Romain Lemiere Prix de Dragey (Chase) (Conditions) (Amateur Riders) (5yo+) (Turf)20f · Good · 7 ran PU —
26 Sep 21 Le Touquet (FR) Enzo Des Ongrais (FR)J: Mr Thomas Guineheux Prix de Dragey (Chase) (Conditions) (Amateur Riders) (5yo+) (Turf)20f · Good · 7 ran 1st 14/5
01 Jun 21 Compiegne (FR) Clodie Des Ongrais (FR)J: Mr Romain Lemiere Prix Xavier de Chevigny (Cross Country Chase) (Conditions) (5yo+) (Turf)23.5f · Soft · 6 ran 5th 14/1
16 May 21 Le Pin au Haras (FR) Felin Des Ongrais (FR)J: Mr Frederick Tett Prix du Haras de Grandcamp (Conditions) (Gentlemen Amateur Riders) (4yo+) (Turf)15.5f · Very Soft · 13 ran 9th —
16 May 21 Le Pin au Haras (FR) Fleche Des Ongrais (FR)J: Mr Romain Lemiere Prix du Haras de Grandcamp (Conditions) (Gentlemen Amateur Riders) (4yo+) (Turf)15.5f · Very Soft · 13 ran 4th —
06 May 21 Compiegne (FR) Clodie Des Ongrais (FR)J: Felix De Giles Prix Teri Ac (Cross Country Chase) (Conditions) (5yo+) (Turf)23.5f · Very Soft · 6 ran 4th 48/10
18 Apr 21 Strasbourg (FR) Crak De La Cheneau (FR)J: Felix De Giles Prix des Asperges (Hurdle) (Handicap) (5yo+) (Turf)19f · Soft · 16 ran 14th 16/1
15 Apr 21 Auteuil (FR) Enzo Des Ongrais (FR)J: Felix De Giles Prix de Saumur (Chase) (Conditions) (5yo+) (Turf)22f · Very Soft · 9 ran PU 33/1
12 Apr 21 Compiegne (FR) Rappeur Des Mottes (FR)J: Stephane Paillard Prix Jacques de Vienne (Cross Country Chase) (Conditions) (5yo+) (Turf)23.5f · Heavy · 11 ran 6th 18/1
07 Mar 21 Saint-Brieuc (FR) Grillon De Monty (FR)J: Erwann Bougon Bougeard Prix de Pledran (Hurdle) (Conditions) (5yo+) (Turf)19f · Heavy · 12 ran 8th —
07 Mar 21 Saint-Brieuc (FR) Chinchilla (FR)J: Erwann Bougon Bougeard Prix France Galop (Hurdle) (Conditions) (5yo) (Turf)19f · Heavy · 15 ran PU —
29 Jul 20 Vittel (FR) Mistral Des Noes (FR)J: Valentin Morin Prix Germaine Bouloumie (Chase) (Handicap) (5yo+) (Turf)21f · Soft · 13 ran RO 54/1
29 Jul 20 Vittel (FR) Spider Love (FR)J: Jean-Stephane Lebrun Prix Germaine Bouloumie (Chase) (Handicap) (5yo+) (Turf)21f · Soft · 13 ran 6th 19/1
23 Jun 20 Le Croise-Laroche (FR) Betty De Juilley (FR)J: Morgan Delalande Prix d'Anvers (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf)16f · Good · 12 ran 1st 11/5F
01 Jun 20 Dieppe (FR) Girly Des Ongrais (FR)J: Jean-Stephane Lebrun Prix Night And Day (Hurdle) (Conditions) (4yo Fillies) (Turf)17f · Soft · 15 ran PU 61/1
01 Jun 20 Dieppe (FR) Girl Des Ongrais (FR)J: Stephane Paillard Prix Night And Day (Hurdle) (Conditions) (4yo Fillies) (Turf)17f · Soft · 15 ran PU 106/1

Drawn from the whole archive (2005 onwards), so it can include runs outside the window the header statistics cover. Non-runners are not listed. A finish shown in letters is a non-completion (F fell · UR unseated · PU pulled up · BD brought down).

Quick answers

What is P Chemin & C Herpin's strike rate?
P Chemin & C Herpin has won 8 of 85 runners since 2008, a strike rate of 9.4% (as at 12 November 2026). Figures are computed from our own results archive.
What is P Chemin & C Herpin's Fair A/E?
1.27, from 73 runners with a computed fair probability since 2008. Fair A/E compares actual wins with a margin-stripped market expectation, so 1.00 is par: above it the wins came at bigger prices than the margin-free market implied, below it they did not.
Fair A/E compares wins with a margin-stripped market expectation. Favourite-heavy samples — top yards, leading riders — naturally read a few points warm, so 1.05 means "beat the margin-free market read", not "the market underrates this by 5%". Three sample sizes are reported and never blended: runs (n), the ROI basis (n at SP), and the fair-A/E basis (n with a computed fair probability).

Strike rate is wins over all runs (n). ROI is £1 level stakes at SP over runs with a parseable price (n at SP). Fair A/E is wins over margin-stripped market expectation, over runs with a computed fair probability (n fair). The three Ns can legitimately differ and are always shown. Figures as at 12 November 2026, computed from our own results archive (2005 onwards; aggregates from 2008).