Horse profile
Fathers Advice (IRE)
by Aiken (GB) out of I'll Have It (IRE) (Robin Des Pres)
33 runs · 9 courses · from May 2021
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 24 May 2025 — 521 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2025 · 1st of 12
Won last time out
2 wins · Cartmel & Perth
Last raced off OR 77
KTB Profile
Fathers Advice won two of 33 starts on turf, both in Class 5 handicap chases on good ground. He gained both wins in May 2025, at Cartmel over 3m and at Perth over 2m5f to 3m. The gelding, who reached a highest official rating of 104, last ran off 77. His last run, at Cartmel in May 2025, was a win.
Based on 33 archived runs · run-style from 6 commented runs since Jan 2025 · updated 27 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance
Wins on good or faster
All wins at Class 5
OR ↓ 27lb off peak
- 2–33Wins / Runs
- 6.1%Strike rate
- 9 (27.3%)Placed
- −14.00£1 level staken=33 at SP
- 0.59Fair A/E n=33 · 0.51 incl. margin
- 104Highest OR
- 46dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating77↓ 27lb off peak
77
72–104
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
Best recent Speed 78
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
Jumps
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 27 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 9 | 82C | 78 | — |
| Good | 7 | 118A | 98 | — |
| Good to Soft | 7 | 107A | 66 | — |
| Heavy | 2 | 85B | 71.5 | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 27 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 15 | 115B | 80 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 9 | 118A | 81 | — |
| Over 3m | 1 | — | — | — |
Of 33 runs looked at, 8 have no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (5) · did not complete (2) · not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (1).
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 25 figures from 33 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style from 6 analysed runs since Jan 2025
- Prominent 3 (50%) · 1 win
- Mid-division 2 (33%) · 1 win
- Held up 1 (17%) · 0 wins
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Progeny in our archive have won 7.4% of 95 runs since Jan 2008 (4 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 34 | 5 | 14.7% | +7.3 | 2 from 9 |
| Good to Soft | 32 | 1 | 3.1% | −4.3 | 0 from 8 |
| Soft | 24 | 1 | 4.2% | −3.2 | 0 from 12 |
| Heavy | 5 | 0 | 0% | −7.4 | 0 from 4 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 26 | 1 | 3.8% | −3.6 | 0 from 17 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 26 | 1 | 3.8% | −3.6 | 0 from 13 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 35 | 3 | 8.6% | +1.2 | 1 from 2 |
| Over 3m | 8 | 2 | 25% | +17.6 | 1 from 1 |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Dam
I'll Have It (IRE) (Robin Des Pres)
No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 12 | 0 | 0% | −12.00 |
| Good | 9 | 2 | 22% | +10.00 |
| Good to Soft | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| Heavy | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 5 | 27 | 2 | 7% | −8.00 |
| Class 4 | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ayr | 11 | 0 | 0% | −11.00 |
| Perth | 7 | 1 | 14% | +3.00 |
| Cartmel | 3 | 1 | 33% | +6.00 |
| Hexham | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Newcastle | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Catterick | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Kelso | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Carlisle | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Wetherby | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 17 | 0 | 0% | −17.00 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 13 | 0 | 0% | −13.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 2 | 1 | 50% | +8.00 |
| Over 3m | 1 | 1 | 100% | +8.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| William Shanahan | 14 | 0 | 0% | −14.00 |
| Ben Smith | 5 | 1 | 20% | +4.00 |
| Callum Bewley | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Gavin Sheehan | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Bruce Lynn | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Danny McMenamin | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Nathan Moscrop | 1 | 1 | 100% | +9.00 |
| Toby Wynne | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ryan Mania | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Derek Fox | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 23 | 2 | 9% | −4.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Visor | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Tongue tie | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2025 | 6 | 2 | 33% | +13.00 |
| 2024 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2023 | 11 | 0 | 0% | −11.00 |
| 2022 | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| 2021 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 21 | 0 | 0% | −21.00 |
| Chase | 10 | 2 | 20% | +9.00 |
| NH Flat | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2025 · 6 runs | ||||||||||
| 24 May 25+10d | Cartmel | Injured Jockeys Handicap Chase Settled in the pack - made progress before 4 out - moved to 3rd 2 out - disputed the front after the last - struck the front on the run-in - pushed out to win with something in hand | 1/12 | 9-12 | 77 | 77A | 113A | Ben Smith | 8/1 | |
| 14 May 25+67d | Perth | Murrayshall Cairns Handicap Chase Sat close to the pace early - squeezed for space at the first and a little untidy at the second - moved into contention by the 10th - hit the front and lost balance two out - drifted right at the final fence - held on well to score | 1/7 | 10-2 | 72 | — | 102B | Nathan Moscrop | 9/1 | |
| 08 Mar 25+11d | Ayr | Virgin Bet Daily Price Boosts Novices' Handicap Hurdle Settled off the pace early - made ground before 3 out - asked for effort soon after - still close to the front pair 2 out - lost momentum before the last and dropped to 4th at the finish | 4/16 | 11 | 9-9 | 72 | — | 82A | Ben Smith | 12/1 |
| 25 Feb 25+36d | Catterick | BBC Make A Difference Awards Handicap Chase Wide and well back early - moved into contention 5th before dropping away 8th - driven up to 4th approaching the finish but always well held in 4th | 4/7 | 7 | 10-0 | 73 | 58B | 78B | Ben Smith | 9/2 |
| 20 Jan 25+14d | Ayr | Start Your Racing TV Free Trial Novices' Limited Handicap Hurdle Handy early - shared front spot at the 6th - pushed along and lost command before 2 out - dropped away without threatening finished 4th | 4/12 | 2¼ | 10-5 | 73 | 78B | 95A | Gavin Sheehan | 13/2 |
| 06 Jan 25+197d | Ayr | Ayrshire Wedding Show 2nd February Handicap Chase Sat close to the pace early - lost touch soon after 3 out and held on for 5th | 5/7 | 9 | 9-11 | 76 | 80B | 74B | Ben Smith | 14/1 |
| 2024 · 4 runs | ||||||||||
| 23 Jun 24+25d | Hexham | Paxton's Are Case IH's No1 Dealer Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle | 7/15 | 5½ | 10-6 | 81 | 98B | 87A | Ben Smith | 11/1 |
| 29 May 24+104d | Cartmel | Welcome Racing TV Members Handicap Chase | 4/8 | 3½ | 9-13 | 77 | — | 87A | Bruce Lynn | 4/1 |
| 15 Feb 24+16d | Newcastle | Quinnbet.com Handicap Chase | 6/10 | 1 | 10-2 | 78 | — | 86A | Danny McMenamin | 5/1 |
| 30 Jan 24+41d | Newcastle | QuinnBet Quarterback Handicap Chase | 2/6 | 6½ | 11-0 | 78 | — | 95B | Callum Bewley | 15/2 |
| 2023 · 11 runs | ||||||||||
| 20 Dec 23+26d | Ayr | Ayrshire Cancer Support Handicap Chase | 3/6 | 10 | 10-3 | 80 | 58A | 88B | Callum Bewley | 4/1 |
| 24 Nov 23+27d | Catterick | Support The Injured Jockeys Fund Novices' Handicap Chase | 6/14 | 5 | 10-11 | 83 | 57B | 98A | Callum Bewley | 22/1 |
| 28 Oct 23+38d | Kelso | Watch RacingTV Free For 31 Days Novices' Handicap Chase | 6/9 | 11 | 11-7 | 88 | 73A | 89A | Callum Bewley | 18/1 |
| 20 Sep 23+25d | Kelso | Bentley Edinburgh Handicap Hurdle (Div 1) | UR/8 | — | 11-5 | 88 | — | — | Gavin Sheehan | 10/3 |
| 26 Aug 23+24d | Cartmel | Bowness Bay Brewing Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle (Div 2) | 2/8 | nk | 11-3 | 86 | 68A | 104A | Bruce Lynn | 5/1 |
| 02 Aug 23+17d | Perth | Auto Services Perth Ltd. Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle | 5/9 | 2¾ | 11-6 | 89 | 85B | 95A | Toby Wynne | 12/1 |
| 16 Jul 23+80d | Perth | Careers In Racing Step On Track Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle | 4/5 | 3¾ | 11-10 | 91 | 82C | 87B | William Shanahan | 6/1 |
| 27 Apr 23+29d | Perth | BetVictor Gamble Responsibly Handicap Hurdle (Div 2) | 6/11 | 14 | 11-2 | 92 | 63A | 90A | William Shanahan | 5/2F |
| 29 Mar 23+18d | Newcastle | QuinnBet Handicap Hurdle | 2/8 | 10 | 11-3 | 93 | 85B | 109B | William Shanahan | 4/1 |
| 11 Mar 23+61d | Ayr | Virgin Bet Best Odds Daily Novices' Handicap Hurdle | 2/8 | 1 | 10-9 | 92 | 115B | 113A | William Shanahan | 5/1 |
| 09 Jan 23+54d | Ayr | Watch Live On Racing TV Novices' Handicap Hurdle | 6/8 | ¾ | 10-11 | 95 | 58C | 87A | William Shanahan | 5/1 |
| 2022 · 9 runs | ||||||||||
| 16 Nov 22+18d | Hexham | Support The Injured Jockeys Fund Today Handicap Hurdle | 7/16 | ½ | 11-7 | 98 | — | 86A | William Shanahan | 25/1 |
| 29 Oct 22+133d | Ayr | Marine & Lawn Handicap Hurdle | 5/7 | ¾ | 10-4 | 101 | 85C | 92B | William Shanahan | 12/1 |
| 18 Jun 22+14d | Perth | Billy Duncan's 65th Birthday Celebration Handicap Hurdle | 4/10 | 11 | 11-4 | 102 | 101A | 99A | William Shanahan | 7/1 |
| 04 Jun 22+23d | Hexham | Download The N-E Bet App Today Handicap Hurdle | 4/10 | 1 | 11-2 | 102 | 118A | 110A | William Shanahan | 8/1 |
| 12 May 22+21d | Perth | Edinburgh Gin Seaside Handicap Hurdle | 4/11 | 1¼ | 11-0 | 102 | 91A | 111A | William Shanahan | 10/1 |
| 21 Apr 22+59d | Perth | William Hill Betting TV Handicap Hurdle (Div 2) | 2/9 | 6 | 11-3 | 102 | 66A | 123A | William Shanahan | 16/1 |
| 21 Feb 22+25d | Carlisle | Havelock Handicap Hurdle | 5/8 | 22 | 11-5 | 104 | 81A | 90A | William Shanahan | 12/1 |
| 27 Jan 22+25d | Wetherby | Try Racing TV For Free Now EBF 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) (Div 1) | 4/11 | 6 | 10-9 | — | 107A | 103A | William Shanahan | 125/1 |
| 02 Jan 22+34d | Ayr | Western House Hotel Gift Vouchers Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) | 7/11 | 6½ | 10-13 | — | 44A | 94A | William Shanahan | 100/1 |
| 2021 · 3 runs | ||||||||||
| 29 Nov 21+35d | Ayr | Happy 70th Birthday Sandy Abbott Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) | PU/12 | — | 10-11 | — | — | — | Danny McMenamin | 150/1 |
| 25 Oct 21+174d | Ayr | Book Your Christmas Break At Western House Open NH Flat Race | 10/11 | 6 | 10-13 | — | 95C | 71C | Ryan Mania | 2/1F |
| 04 May 21 | Ayr | 100% RacingTV Profits Back To Racing Open NH Flat Race (GBB Race) (Div 2) | 2/8 | 9 | 10-8 | — | 80A | 114A | Derek Fox | 25/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Fathers Advice won?
- Fathers Advice (IRE) won 2 of 33 archived starts between 2021 and 2025, a strike rate of 6.1%. Placed 9 times in total (27.3% of starts).
- Who trained Fathers Advice?
- Fathers Advice (IRE) was trained by R Mike Smith on the most recent run on record, at Cartmel on 24 May 2025.
- Who is Fathers Advice's sire?
- Fathers Advice (IRE) is by Aiken (GB) out of I'll Have It (IRE), whose sire is Robin Des Pres.
- What going does Fathers Advice prefer?
- Fathers Advice (IRE) has the best record on good going: 2 wins from 9 starts (22.2%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Fathers Advice's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 77, from the run on 24 May 2025. The highest on record is 104.
- What is Fathers Advice's sire's record?
- Aiken (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.4% of 95 runs since Jan 2008 (4 horses), Flat and jumps together.