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Here Comes When (IRE)

9yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2019) · Last trainer Andrew Balding · Last owner Mrs Fitri Hay
by Danehill Dancer (IRE) out of Quad's Melody (IRE) (Spinning World)
35 runs · 15 courses · from Jul 2012
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 7 Sep 2019 — 2,601 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2019 · 5th of 6 8 wins · 7 courses Last raced off OR 109
KTB Profile

Here Comes When (IRE) is 8 from 35, including a Group 1 win. The biggest win we hold: the Qatar Sussex Stakes at Goodwood (Aug 2017). Hasn't won since Sep 2018. 6 of 19 starts with soft in the ground have ended in wins — 2 from 14 on quicker.

Based on 35 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
Official rating109↓ 7lb off peak
109 82–116

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 97 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Sandown, 23 May 2019

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 12 figures · best 118C · median 82
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Soft396A74—
Good to Soft3118C87—
Good to Firm297B89—
Good278A77—
Heavy1———
Standard (AW)1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f10118C82—
1m2f – 1m4f1———
6f – 7f1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 12 figures from 12 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 110B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Haydock, 8 Sep 2018 Official rating 109 at the last run, 7 Sep 2019

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 35 figures · best 116A · median 94
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good to Soft10114A96.5—
Good8105A95—
Soft7116A101—
Good to Firm694B85—
Heavy2112A111—
Standard (AW)292A90.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
6f – 7f18116A96.5—
1m – 1m1f16114A94—
1m2f – 1m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 35 figures from 35 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Danehill Dancer (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 10,094 runs since Jan 2008 (783 horses).

Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 6.2% from 130.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm911011%−0.2—
Good to Firm1,74022312.8%+1.61 from 6
Good2,4992489.9%−1.31 from 8
Good to Soft1,08912011%−0.22 from 10
Soft1,73322412.9%+1.73 from 7
Heavy6567811.9%+0.71 from 2
Standard (AW)2,2852249.8%−1.40 from 2
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f4035313.2%+2—
6f – 7f2,71033112.2%+14 from 18
1m – 1m1f2,71531211.5%+0.34 from 16
1m2f – 1m4f2,31123710.3%−0.90 from 1
1m5f – 2m1,27013410.6%−0.6—
2m1f – 2m4f533519.6%−1.6—
2m5f – 3m13086.2%−5—
Over 3m2214.5%−6.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Quad's Melody (IRE) (Spinning World)

8 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Melodic Motion (IRE) (3 wins).

The wins came over 7f–1m4½f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Carlos Felix (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Melodic Motion (IRE)1231m2f–1m4fClass 3
Hava Nageela (IRE)837f—
Carlos Felix (IRE)4031m4f–1m4½fClass 2
Prince Of Eyeries (IRE)1427f—
Morant Bay (IRE)911m2fClass 4
Warren Beach (IRE)10——
Cecil Chubb (IRE)20——
Action (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 10 2 20% +3.75
Good 8 1 13% −4.75
Soft 7 3 43% +26.00
Good to Firm 6 1 17% −2.25
Heavy 2 1 50% +2.00
Standard (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 1 26 4 15% +19.00
Class 2 5 2 40% +1.25
Class 3 2 1 50% +0.75
Class 4 2 1 50% +1.75

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Ascot 5 0 0% −5.00
Haydock 4 1 25% +0.00
Goodwood 4 1 25% +17.00
Newmarket 4 1 25% +5.00
Sandown 3 0 0% −3.00
Chester 3 2 67% +3.25
Newbury 3 0 0% −3.00
York 2 1 50% +9.00
Windsor 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Bath 1 1 100% +1.75
Chelmsford City (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Leicester 1 0 0% −1.00
Epsom Downs 1 0 0% −1.00
Salisbury 1 1 100% +2.75

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 18 4 22% +1.00
1m – 1m1f 16 4 25% +22.75
1m2f – 1m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Jim Crowley 15 2 13% +15.00
Oisin Murphy 7 3 43% +11.00
Jamie Spencer 4 1 25% −0.25
David Probert 4 1 25% −0.75
Graham Lee 2 1 50% +0.75
James Doyle 1 0 0% −1.00
Franny Norton 1 0 0% −1.00
Pat Dobbs 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Hood 33 7 21% +21.00
None 2 1 50% +1.75

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2019 2 0 0% −2.00
2018 4 1 25% +0.00
2017 4 2 50% +28.00
2016 8 1 13% −5.25
2015 7 0 0% −7.00
2014 4 2 50% +8.00
2013 4 1 25% −0.75
2012 2 1 50% +1.75

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
07 Sep 19+107d Haydock Bet In Play On The Betfair Exchange Superior Mile (Group 3) Class 1 · 8f · Soft · 6 ran 5/6 4½ 9-3 10974A85B Oisin Murphy 8/1
23 May 19+257d Sandown Matchbook Brigadier Gerard Stakes (Group 3) Class 1 · 10f · Good To Firm · 6 ran 4/6 ½ 9-3 11097B90B Oisin Murphy 33/1
08 Sep 18+39d Haydock Unibet Mile (Registered As The Superior Mile Stakes) (Group 3) Class 1 · 8f · Heavy · 6 ran 1/6 9-3 11075A110B Oisin Murphy 3/1
31 Jul 18+46d Goodwood Qatar Lennox Stakes (Group 2) Class 1 · 7f · Good · 12 ran 9/12 ¾ 9-3 11278A92A Jim Crowley 20/1
15 Jun 18+49d York mrgreen.com Live Casino Ganton Stakes (Listed) Class 1 · 8f · Good To Firm · 5 ran 4/5 2½ 9-7 11681C94B James Doyle 7/2
27 Apr 18+188d Sandown Bet365 Mile (Group 2) Class 1 · 8f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 5/8 1½ 9-1 11683A88A Jim Crowley 13/2
21 Oct 17+80d Ascot Queen Elizabeth II Stakes (Group 1) (Sponsored By Qipco) Class 1 · 8f · Soft · 15 ran 9/15 shd 9-4 11658C94A Jamie Spencer 20/1
02 Aug 17+32d Goodwood Qatar Sussex Stakes (Group 1) Class 1 · 8f · Soft · 7 ran 1/7 9-8 11096A105B Jim Crowley 20/1
01 Jul 17+44d Windsor sunbets.co.uk Midsummer Stakes (Listed) Class 1 · 8f · Good To Soft · 5 ran 3/5 2½ 9-7 11087C93B David Probert 3/1
18 May 17+183d York Betfred TV Hambleton Handicap (Listed) Class 1 · 8f · Good To Soft · 17 ran 1/17 9-1 103118C114A Oisin Murphy 10/1
16 Nov 16+32d Kempton (AW) British Stallion Studs EBF Hyde Stakes (All Weather Championship Fast-Track Qualifier) (Listed) Class 1 · 8f · Standard · 7 ran 4/7 3¼ 9-2 104109A92A Graham Lee 8/1
15 Oct 16+34d Ascot Balmoral Handicap (Sponsored By Qipco) (Str) Class 2 · 8f · Good · 19 ran 10/19 nk 9-5 10576C94A Jamie Spencer 25/1
11 Sep 16+27d Bath Boeing Defence Uk Conditions Stakes Class 3 · 8f · Good To Soft · 4 ran 1/4 9-2 105—93B Graham Lee 7/4F
15 Aug 16+37d Chelmsford City (AW) Malibu Coconut Cup Conditions Stakes Class 3 · 7f · Standard · 5 ran 5/5 hd 9-4 107—89B Jim Crowley 7/2
09 Jul 16+14d Chester Corbettsports City Plate (Listed) Class 1 · 7f · Soft · 8 ran 6/8 4½ 9-2 108—86A Franny Norton 11/4
25 Jun 16+28d Newmarket John Sunley Memorial Criterion Stakes (Group 3) Class 1 · 7f · Heavy · 8 ran 3/8 2¼ 9-3 109—112A Pat Dobbs 7/1
28 May 16+35d Haydock Timeform Jury Stakes (Registered As The John Of Gaunt Stakes) (Group 3) Class 1 · 7f · Good · 9 ran 7/9 shd 9-0 109—88A Oisin Murphy 16/1
23 Apr 16+197d Leicester totescoop6 EBF Stallions King Richard III Stakes (Formerly The Leicestershire Stakes) (Listed) Class 1 · 7f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 3/10 nse 9-3 111—99A Jim Crowley 9/1
09 Oct 15+40d Newmarket Dubai Challenge Stakes (Group 2) Class 1 · 7f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 6/10 2 9-3 111—95A Jim Crowley 15/2
30 Aug 15+15d Goodwood Doom Bar Supreme Stakes (Group 3) Class 1 · 7f · Soft · 5 ran 2/5 hd 9-0 113—101B Jim Crowley 13/8F
15 Aug 15+17d Newbury Betfred Hungerford Stakes (Group 2) (Str) Class 1 · 7f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 7/11 nk 9-6 115—98A Jim Crowley 11/4F
29 Jul 15+43d Goodwood Qatar Sussex Stakes (British Champions Series) (Supported By Qatar Petroleum) (Group 1) Class 1 · 8f · Good · 8 ran 4/8 1 9-8 116—98A Jim Crowley 33/1
16 Jun 15+31d Ascot Queen Anne Stakes (British Champions Series) (Group 1) (Str) Class 1 · 8f · Good · 8 ran 7/8 6 9-0 116—69A Jim Crowley 33/1
16 May 15+22d Newbury Al Shaqab Lockinge Stakes (British Champions Series) (Group 1) (Str) Class 1 · 8f · Good · 16 ran 6/16 1 9-0 116—101A Jim Crowley 14/1
24 Apr 15+189d Sandown bet365 Mile (Group 2) Class 1 · 8f · Good · 6 ran 2/6 1½ 9-5 116—96B Jim Crowley 4/1
17 Oct 14+121d Newmarket vision.ae Challenge Stakes (Group 2) Class 1 · 7f · Soft · 13 ran 1/13 9-7 113—112A Jim Crowley 8/1
18 Jun 14+18d Ascot Royal Hunt Cup (Heritage Handicap) (Str) Class 2 · 8f · Good To Firm · 28 ran 25/28 shd 9-3 106—68C Oisin Murphy 20/1
31 May 14+22d Haydock Timeform Jury Stakes (Registered As The John Of Gaunt Stakes) (Group 3) Class 1 · 7f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 5/9 ¾ 9-0 106—98A Jim Crowley 4/1
09 May 14+324d Chester Sportingbet.com Earl Grosvenor Handicap Class 2 · 7.5f · Soft · 10 ran 1/10 8-10 95—116A Oisin Murphy 2/1F
19 Jun 13+19d Ascot Jersey Stakes (Group 3) Class 1 · 7f · Good To Firm · 21 ran 12/21 ½ 9-1 97—83A Jim Crowley 33/1
31 May 13+22d Epsom Downs Investec Surrey Stakes (Listed) Class 1 · 7f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 4/7 3¾ 8-13 97—82A David Probert 5/2F
09 May 13+20d Chester Boodles Diamond Handicap Class 2 · 7.5f · Good · 8 ran 1/8 8-10 89—105A David Probert 9/4F
19 Apr 13+259d Newbury Dubai Duty Free Full Of Surprises Handicap Class 2 · 7f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 2/10 nk 8-4 82—99A David Probert 6/1
03 Aug 12+33d Newmarket Firestone Building Products Novice Stakes Class 4 · 7f · Good To Firm · 5 ran 4/5 2¾ 9-5 ——81B Jamie Spencer 9/4
01 Jul 12 Salisbury Wiltshire Community Foundation E.B.F. Blagrave Maiden Stakes Class 4 · 7f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 1/7 9-3 ——87A Jamie Spencer 11/4F

Quick answers

How many races has Here Comes When (IRE) won?
Here Comes When (IRE) won 8 of 35 archived starts between 2012 and 2019, a strike rate of 22.9%. Placed 13 times in total (37.1% of starts).
Who trained Here Comes When (IRE)?
Here Comes When (IRE) was trained by Andrew Balding on the most recent run on record, at Haydock on 7 September 2019.
Who is Here Comes When (IRE)'s sire?
Here Comes When (IRE) is by Danehill Dancer (IRE) out of Quad's Melody (IRE), whose sire is Spinning World.
What going does Here Comes When (IRE) prefer?
Here Comes When (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 3 wins from 7 starts (42.9%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Here Comes When (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 109, from the run on 7 September 2019. The highest on record is 116.
What is Here Comes When (IRE)'s sire's record?
Danehill Dancer (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 10,094 runs since Jan 2008 (783 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 6.2% from 130.
Who are Here Comes When (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Quad's Melody (IRE), Here Comes When (IRE) has 8 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Melodic Motion (IRE) (3). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Carlos Felix (IRE)). The wins came over 7f–1m4½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from July 2012. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.