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Idle Talker (IRE)

5yo gelding (at last run, May 2017) · Last trainer Nick Gifford · Last owner Coldunell Limited
by Dandy Man (IRE) out of Special Pearl (IRE) (Alhaarth)
21 runs · 13 courses · from Aug 2014
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 16 May 2017 — 3,451 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2017 · 12th of 12 3 wins · Brighton, Chepstow & Lingfield (AW) Last raced off OR 60
KTB Profile

Idle Talker (IRE) is 3 from 21, all wins coming at Class 6 level. Hasn't won since Aug 2015. All 3 wins have come over 1m2f – 1m4f.

Based on 21 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance All wins at Class 6
Official rating60↓ 5lb off peak
60 55–65

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 65 the best of the last 1 graded (A or B) run · Lingfield (AW), 7 Dec 2016

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 3 figures · best 92C · median 65
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)292C78.5—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m292C76—
1m2f – 1m4f1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 3 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 61C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Southwell (AW), 19 Jan 2017 Official rating 60 at the last flat run, 16 May 2017

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 85C the best of the last 1 rated run · Newton Abbot, 12 Aug 2015

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 20 figures · best 74A · median 59
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)963A60—
Soft561C47—
Good to Soft374A68—
Good266A64—
Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f1074A62—
1m5f – 2m561C58—
6f – 7f360A47—
1m – 1m1f261C52—
Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 21 figures from 21 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 14,946 runs since Jan 2008 (930 horses).

Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 5.3% from 170.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm921415.2%+6.10 from 1
Good to Firm2,47725610.3%+1.2—
Good3,1672648.3%−0.81 from 2
Good to Soft1,3401098.1%−11 from 4
Soft1,7181367.9%−1.20 from 5
Heavy4745010.5%+1.4—
Standard (AW)5,6785349.4%+0.31 from 9
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f4,43950711.4%+2.3—
6f – 7f7,6346438.4%−0.70 from 3
1m – 1m1f2,0431587.7%−1.40 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f581447.6%−1.53 from 10
1m5f – 2m17095.3%−3.80 from 5
2m1f – 2m4f6623%−6.10 from 1
2m5f – 3m1200%−9.1—
Over 3m100%−9.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 9 1 11% −6.75
Soft 5 0 0% −5.00
Good to Soft 4 1 25% −1.00
Good 2 1 50% +2.50
Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 13 3 23% −3.25
Class 5 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 4 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Chepstow 3 1 33% +1.50
Lingfield (AW) 3 1 33% −0.75
Southwell (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Chelmsford City (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Brighton 2 1 50% +1.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Windsor 1 0 0% −1.00
Epsom Downs 1 0 0% −1.00
Newton Abbot 1 0 0% −1.00
Bath 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Leopardstown 1 0 0% −1.00
Galway 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m2f – 1m4f 10 3 30% −0.25
1m5f – 2m 5 0 0% −5.00
6f – 7f 3 0 0% −3.00
1m – 1m1f 2 0 0% −2.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Kevin Stott 3 1 33% +0.00
Oisin Murphy 2 0 0% −2.00
Raul Da Silva 2 0 0% −2.00
Colin Keane 2 0 0% −2.00
Martin Lane 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr David Dunsdon 1 0 0% −1.00
Liam Jones 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr Will Pettis 1 0 0% −1.00
James Davies 1 0 0% −1.00
Edward Greatrex 1 1 100% +3.50
Royston Ffrench 1 0 0% −1.00
Silvestre De Sousa 1 1 100% +1.25
Patrick O'Donnell 1 0 0% −1.00
Victor Santos 1 0 0% −1.00
Renato Souza 1 0 0% −1.00
Irineu Goncalves 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Cheekpieces 10 3 30% −0.25
None 9 0 0% −9.00
Tongue tie 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2017 2 0 0% −2.00
2016 1 0 0% −1.00
2015 13 3 23% −3.25
2014 5 0 0% −5.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 20 3 15% −10.25
Hurdle 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2017 · 2 runs
16 May 17+117d Chepstow Ticket Giveaways At 188bet Handicap Class 6 · 16f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 12/12 6 9-7 6060C51C Martin Lane 16/1
19 Jan 17+43d Southwell (AW) Betway Amateur Riders' Handicap Class 5 · 14f · Standard · 10 ran 5/10 13 10-9 6292C61C Mr David Dunsdon 16/1
2016 · 1 run
07 Dec 16+415d Lingfield (AW) Download The Betway App Handicap Class 6 · 10f · Standard · 14 ran 12/14 1½ 9-6 6565B58A Liam Jones 33/1
2015 · 13 runs
19 Oct 15+9d Windsor JRL Group Amateur Handicap (Gentleman Amateur Riders) (Div 1) Class 6 · 11.5f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 2/9 shd 10-11 64—74A Mr Will Pettis 9/2
10 Oct 15+16d Chelmsford City (AW) Follow totepool On Twitter Handicap Class 6 · 13.5f · Standard · 11 ran 8/11 1 9-7 65—58A Oisin Murphy 10/1
24 Sep 15+23d Chelmsford City (AW) Scoop6Soccer The 1 Million Football Bet Handicap Class 6 · 13.5f · Standard · 8 ran 5/8 nk 9-4 65—60A Kevin Stott 5/1
01 Sep 15+9d Epsom Downs Caroline's Vision Celebration Handicap (Jockey Club Grassroots Flat Middle Distance Series Qualifier) Class 5 · 12f · Soft · 5 ran 4/5 7 9-1 62—47B Kevin Stott 10/3
23 Aug 15+11d Brighton papajohns.co.uk Handicap Class 6 · 12f · Good To Soft · 6 ran 1/6 8-12 62—68B Kevin Stott 2/1F
12 Aug 15+7d Newton Abbot Newtonabbotracing.com Graduate Juvenile Hurdle Class 4 · 17f · Good To Soft · 5 ran 4/5 2¾ 10-12 ——85C James Davies 5/1
05 Aug 15+23d Chepstow thebookiesoffers.co.uk For The Best Betting Offers Apprentice Handicap Class 6 · 12f · Good · 8 ran 1/8 8-6 55—66A Edward Greatrex 7/2
13 Jul 15+23d Wolverhampton (AW) 'slade' After Racing Saturday 5th September Handicap Class 6 · 14f · Standard · 9 ran 2/9 8 9-5 55—58A Royston Ffrench 5/1
20 Jun 15+4d Lingfield (AW) Bet And Watch At TitanBet.co.uk Selling Stakes (AW) Class 6 · 10f · Standard · 8 ran 1/8 8-12 55—62A Silvestre De Sousa 5/4F
16 Jun 15+15d Brighton Follow Us On Twitter At Starsports_bet Handicap Class 6 · 10f · Good · 12 ran 4/12 2 9-4 55—62A Oisin Murphy 2/1F
01 Jun 15+13d Lingfield (AW) Young Epilepsy Handicap (Div 2) Class 6 · 10f · Standard · 12 ran 3/12 2¾ 9-0 55—63A Patrick O'Donnell 4/1F
19 May 15+15d Chepstow Chopping Board Handicap Class 6 · 12f · Soft · 9 ran 4/9 5 8-5 55—49A Victor Santos 33/1
04 May 15+137d Bath Fundraising Furlong Handicap Class 6 · 10f · Firm · 11 ran 9/11 1¾ 9-6 59—45C Renato Souza 33/1
2014 · 5 runs
18 Dec 14+12d Southwell (AW) 32red Irish Stallion Farms Ebf Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 7f · Standard · 9 ran 8/9 2 9-5 ——44C Raul Da Silva 66/1
06 Dec 14+43d Wolverhampton (AW) 32Red.com Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 7f · Standard · 12 ran 7/12 2 9-5 ——60A Raul Da Silva 50/1
24 Oct 14+71d Newbury Al Basti Equiworld Maiden Stakes (Div 2) (Str) Class 4 · 8f · Soft · 9 ran 6/9 1½ 9-5 ——43C Irineu Goncalves 50/1
14 Aug 14+13d Leopardstown Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. (C & G) Maiden 8f · Soft · 8 ran 7/8 1¾ 9-5 ——61C Colin Keane 50/1
01 Aug 14 Galway Guinness 17:59 E.B.F. Median Auction Maiden 7f · Yielding To Soft · 14 ran 9/14 5 9-5 ——47C Colin Keane 40/1

Quick answers

How many races has Idle Talker won?
Idle Talker (IRE) won 3 of 21 archived starts between 2014 and 2017, a strike rate of 14.3%. Placed 6 times in total (28.6% of starts).
Who trained Idle Talker?
Idle Talker (IRE) was trained by Nick Gifford on the most recent run on record, at Chepstow on 16 May 2017.
Who is Idle Talker's sire?
Idle Talker (IRE) is by Dandy Man (IRE) out of Special Pearl (IRE), whose sire is Alhaarth.
What going does Idle Talker prefer?
Idle Talker (IRE) has the best record on good to soft going: 1 win from 4 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Idle Talker's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 60, from the run on 16 May 2017. The highest on record is 65.
What is Idle Talker's sire's record?
Dandy Man (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 14,946 runs since Jan 2008 (930 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 5.3% from 170.

Record shown from August 2014. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.