Horse profile
If What And Maybe (GB)
5yo gelding (at last run, Jul 2013) · Last trainer John Ryan · Last owner John Ryan Racing Partnership
by Needwood Blade (GB) out of Pink Champagne (GB) (Cosmonaut)
34 runs · 10 courses · from Sep 2010
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 16 Jul 2013 — 4,851 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2013 · 10th of 13
Won at Yarmouth
Last raced off OR 45
KTB Profile
If What And Maybe (GB) is 1 from 34, the win coming at Class 6 level. Hasn't won since Oct 2011. The win came on turf — 0 from 23 on the all-weather. Last raced off 45, 15lb below the career-high mark.
Based on 34 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance
Won on turf, 0 on AW
Win at Class 6
OR ↓ 15lb off peak
- 1–34Wins / Runs
- 2.9%Strike rate
- 5 (14.7%)Placed
- −24.00£1 level staken=34 at SP
- 0.48Fair A/E n=33 · 0.41 incl. margin
- 60Highest OR
- 31dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating45↓ 15lb off peak
45
45–60
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Needwood Blade (GB)
Progeny in our archive have won 7.9% of 2,746 runs since Jan 2008 (187 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 38 | 2 | 5.3% | −2.6 | — |
| Good to Firm | 498 | 35 | 7% | −0.9 | 0 from 2 |
| Good | 572 | 41 | 7.2% | −0.7 | 0 from 2 |
| Good to Soft | 275 | 20 | 7.3% | −0.6 | 0 from 2 |
| Soft | 197 | 16 | 8.1% | +0.2 | 1 from 3 |
| Heavy | 66 | 5 | 7.6% | −0.3 | 0 from 2 |
| Standard (AW) | 1,100 | 99 | 9% | +1.1 | 0 from 23 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 444 | 40 | 9% | +1.1 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 928 | 68 | 7.3% | −0.6 | 0 from 2 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 444 | 34 | 7.7% | −0.2 | 1 from 4 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 386 | 32 | 8.3% | +0.4 | 0 from 14 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 347 | 24 | 6.9% | −1 | 0 from 14 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 163 | 17 | 10.4% | +2.5 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 32 | 3 | 9.4% | +1.5 | — |
| Over 3m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −7.9 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Dam
Pink Champagne (GB) (Cosmonaut)
4 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them George The Second (GB) (5 wins).
The wins came over 5f–1m4f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (George The Second (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| George The Second (GB) | 50 | 5 | 5f–6f | Class 5 |
| Crimson Mitre (GB) | 20 | 2 | 1m3f–1m4f | Class 6 |
| We Win (GB) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
| Pretorian (GB) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 23 | 0 | 0% | −23.00 |
| Soft | 3 | 1 | 33% | +7.00 |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Heavy | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good to Firm | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 6 | 28 | 1 | 4% | −18.00 |
| Class 5 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Class 4 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Lingfield (AW) | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| Kempton (AW) | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| Yarmouth | 6 | 1 | 17% | +4.00 |
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Southwell (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Doncaster | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Chepstow | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Huntingdon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Nottingham | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Newmarket | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 14 | 0 | 0% | −14.00 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 14 | 0 | 0% | −14.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 4 | 1 | 25% | +6.00 |
| 6f – 7f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Adam Kirby | 7 | 1 | 14% | +3.00 |
| Ryan Powell | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Michael O'Connell | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| John Fahy | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Tom McLaughlin | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Marc Halford | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Natasha Eaton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jordon McMurray | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Caroline Kelly | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Simon Pearce | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Miss H M Turner | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Stevie Donohoe | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Colin Bolger | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Pat Cosgrave | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Kieran O'Neill | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Visor | 14 | 1 | 7% | −4.00 |
| None | 12 | 0 | 0% | −12.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Blinkers | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2013 | 11 | 0 | 0% | −11.00 |
| 2012 | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| 2011 | 13 | 1 | 8% | −3.00 |
| 2010 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 32 | 1 | 3% | −22.00 |
| Chase | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Hurdle | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2013 · 11 runs | |||||||||
| 16 Jul 13+20d | Kempton (AW) | BetVictor Open Championships 8 Places Exclusive Handicap | 10/13 | 13 | 8-2 | 45 | 39C | Natasha Eaton | 100/1 |
| 26 Jun 13+7d | Kempton (AW) | Conor Maynard Live At Kempton 14.09.13 Handicap | 9/10 | 31 | 7-13 | 45 | 39C | Ryan Powell | 50/1 |
| 19 Jun 13+26d | Kempton (AW) | Edward Kidger Handicap | 7/12 | 6 | 7-13 | 45 | 46A | Ryan Powell | 50/1 |
| 24 May 13+6d | Yarmouth | Racing Welfare Handicap | 12/12 | 82 | 8-4 | 45 | 36C | Ryan Powell | 20/1 |
| 18 May 13+16d | Doncaster | crownhotel-bawtry.com Apprentice Handicap | 15/15 | 21 | 8-0 | 45 | 38C | Jordon McMurray | 20/1 |
| 02 May 13+16d | Lingfield (AW) | Lingfield Park Supports Young Epilepsy Handicap | 4/8 | 3¼ | 8-4 | 45 | 51A | Ryan Powell | 20/1 |
| 16 Apr 13+35d | Southwell (AW) | 32red.com Apprentice Handicap | 5/7 | nse | 8-2 | 45 | 43C | Caroline Kelly | 33/1 |
| 12 Mar 13+20d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Free Horse Racing Bets With Bookmakers.co.uk Handicap | 6/8 | 1½ | 8-7 | 46 | 45A | Simon Pearce | 20/1 |
| 20 Feb 13+7d | Kempton (AW) | Racing Plus Chase Day 23.02.13 Handicap | 5/12 | nk | 8-8 | 47 | 93A | John Fahy | 33/1 |
| 13 Feb 13+4d | Lingfield (AW) | Crowhurst Handicap | 8/10 | 1¼ | 9-0 | 50 | 48C | Adam Kirby | 7/1 |
| 09 Feb 13+262d | Lingfield (AW) | Bet On Today's Football At bluesq.com Handicap | 13/14 | 2¼ | 9-5 | 50 | 44C | John Fahy | 20/1 |
| 2012 · 6 runs | |||||||||
| 23 May 12+22d | Chepstow | digibet.com Handicap | 4/16 | 2½ | 9-0 | 50 | 72A | Tom McLaughlin | 25/1 |
| 01 May 12+17d | Yarmouth | Pleasurewood Hills Theme Park Handicap | 6/6 | 12 | 9-2 | 55 | 55C | Michael O'Connell | 5/2F |
| 14 Apr 12+24d | Lingfield (AW) | Ladbrokes Shops Are Open Tonight Handicap | 6/13 | nk | 8-13 | 51 | 63A | Adam Kirby | 8/1 |
| 21 Mar 12+4d | Kempton (AW) | Betdaq Mobile Apps Handicap | 5/8 | 5 | 8-13 | 53 | 52A | Michael O'Connell | 14/1 |
| 17 Mar 12+17d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Compare Free Bets With FreeBetting.co.uk Handicap | 5/7 | ½ | 8-10 | 53 | 53A | Michael O'Connell | 11/1 |
| 29 Feb 12+105d | Kempton (AW) | Event Magazine Handicap | 10/10 | 1 | 8-6 | 56 | 49A | Ryan Powell | 33/1 |
| 2011 · 13 runs | |||||||||
| 16 Nov 11+4d | Lingfield (AW) | Ladbrokes Game On! Amateur Riders' Handicap | 13/13 | 4 | 9-11 | 60 | 37C | Miss H M Turner | 11/1 |
| 12 Nov 11+15d | Lingfield (AW) | Play Rainbow Riches At bluesq.com Handicap (Div 1) | 11/13 | 15 | 9-6 | 60 | 50C | Adam Kirby | 15/2 |
| 28 Oct 11+3d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Exclusive Breeders' Cup Coverage On ATR Handicap | 7/8 | 8 | 9-12 | 58 | 54C | Adam Kirby | 4/1 |
| 25 Oct 11+7d | Yarmouth | digibet.com Handicap | 1/11 | 9-5 | 58 | 77A | Adam Kirby | 9/1 | |
| 18 Oct 11+16d | Yarmouth | Yarmouth Stadium Selling Stakes | 3/7 | nk | 8-12 | 58 | 70A | Stevie Donohoe | 6/1 |
| 02 Oct 11+16d | Huntingdon | Huntingdon For All Your Wedding Needs Juvenile Hurdle | 7/9 | 4½ | 10-12 | — | 79C | Colin Bolger | 16/1 |
| 16 Sep 11+16d | Lingfield (AW) | JustBookies.com Handicap (AWT) | 3/13 | nk | 9-4 | 57 | 79A | Pat Cosgrave | 5/1 |
| 31 Aug 11+18d | Kempton (AW) | Ladies Day At Kempton On Saturday Apprentice Handicap | 2/8 | 2¾ | 9-7 | 56 | 74A | Ryan Powell | 4/1 |
| 13 Aug 11+7d | Lingfield (AW) | Choiroke Concert Handicap (AWT) | 2/10 | ½ | 8-5 | 51 | 66A | Kieran O'Neill | 14/1 |
| 06 Aug 11+9d | Lingfield (AW) | Play Roulette At ladbrokes.com Median Auction Maiden Stakes (AWT) | 7/12 | 12 | 9-3 | 50 | 46C | Tom McLaughlin | 33/1 |
| 28 Jul 11+9d | Nottingham | Fortinet - Real Time Network Protection Handicap | 6/9 | 19 | 8-8 | 55 | 49C | Michael O'Connell | 25/1 |
| 19 Jul 11+8d | Southwell (AW) | Dine In The Pantry Handicap | 3/6 | 17 | 9-3 | 59 | 52C | Michael O'Connell | 12/1 |
| 11 Jul 11+229d | Wolverhampton (AW) | informracing.com Online Since 2003 Handicap | 6/9 | ½ | 9-0 | 59 | 51C | Michael O'Connell | 25/1 |
| 2010 · 4 runs | |||||||||
| 24 Nov 10+29d | Kempton (AW) | digibet Casino Nursery | 7/13 | 1¼ | 9-1 | 59 | 56A | Adam Kirby | 40/1 |
| 26 Oct 10+26d | Yarmouth | European Breeders' Fund bet365 Maiden Stakes | 8/14 | 6 | 9-3 | — | 59C | Adam Kirby | 100/1 |
| 30 Sep 10+15d | Newmarket | Ngk Spark Plugs E.b.f. Maiden Stakes | 10/15 | 5 | 9-0 | — | 51A | Marc Halford | 100/1 |
| 15 Sep 10 | Yarmouth | European Breeders' Fund Maiden Stakes | 16/16 | 9 | 9-3 | — | 58C | Marc Halford | 150/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has If What And Maybe won?
- If What And Maybe (GB) won 1 of 34 archived starts between 2010 and 2013, a strike rate of 2.9%. Placed 5 times in total (14.7% of starts).
- Who trained If What And Maybe?
- If What And Maybe (GB) was trained by John Ryan on the most recent run on record, at Kempton (AW) on 16 July 2013.
- Who is If What And Maybe's sire?
- If What And Maybe (GB) is by Needwood Blade (GB) out of Pink Champagne (GB), whose sire is Cosmonaut.
- What going does If What And Maybe prefer?
- If What And Maybe (GB) has the best record on soft going: 1 win from 3 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is If What And Maybe's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 45, from the run on 16 July 2013. The highest on record is 60.
- What is If What And Maybe's sire's record?
- Needwood Blade (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.9% of 2,746 runs since Jan 2008 (187 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are If What And Maybe's siblings?
- Out of Pink Champagne (GB), If What And Maybe (GB) has 4 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: George The Second (GB) (5). Highest grade won: Class 5 (George The Second (GB)). The wins came over 5f–1m4f. As at Oct 2026.