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Needs To Be Seen (FR)

5yo gelding (at last run, Jul 2020) · Last trainer Lucinda Russell · Last owner J Fyffe Gerry Mcgladery
by Motivator (GB) out of Morning Line (FR) (Anabaa)
20 runs · 14 courses · from May 2018
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 21 Jul 2020 — 2,283 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2020 · 7th of 7 Won at Musselburgh New yard Last raced off OR 105
KTB Profile

Needs To Be Seen (FR) is 1 from 20, the win coming at Class 4 level. Hasn't won since Nov 2018. The win came on good or faster ground (0 from 7 on softer).

Based on 20 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Wins on good or faster Win at Class 4
Official rating105↓ 7lb off peak
105 64–112

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 89 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Newcastle (AW), 8 Jan 2020

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 5 figures · best 112B · median 107
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good3112B107—
Good to Firm1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m5112B107—
Flat 11 figures · best 114C · median 81
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good to Firm4114C86—
Standard (AW)289B87—
Good2108C86—
Soft275C72.5—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f7114C81—
1m5f – 2m4108C80—

Of 20 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: did not complete (4).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 16 figures from 20 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 116B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Cheltenham, 17 Nov 2018 Official rating 105 at the last jumps run, 21 Jul 2020

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 77A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Newcastle (AW), 14 Dec 2019 Official rating 64 at the last flat run, 8 Jan 2020

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 5 figures · best 116B · median 102
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good3116B96—
Good to Firm1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m5116B102—
Flat 11 figures · best 84A · median 69
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good to Firm484A70.5—
Standard (AW)277A73—
Good274A69—
Soft271A64—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f784A71—
1m5f – 2m477A62.5—

Of 20 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (4).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 16 figures from 20 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 5,575 runs since Jan 2008 (511 horses).

Strongest on soft going: 15.9% from 1,080. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 7.8% from 1,277. Strongest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 15.1% from 589. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 8.7% from 573.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm21523.8%+11.7—
Good to Firm5717112.4%+0.31 from 5
Good1,31714511%−1.10 from 6
Good to Soft85911213%+0.90 from 5
Soft1,08017215.9%+3.80 from 2
Heavy4496714.9%+2.8—
Standard (AW)1,2771007.8%−4.30 from 2
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f4137.3%−4.8—
6f – 7f573508.7%−3.4—
1m – 1m1f1,1071089.8%−2.3—
1m2f – 1m4f1,85124313.1%+10 from 7
1m5f – 2m1,21316013.2%+1.11 from 12
2m1f – 2m4f5898915.1%+30 from 1
2m5f – 3m182179.3%−2.8—
Over 3m19315.8%+3.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Morning Line (FR) (Anabaa)

5 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Arthur's Realm (IRE) (5 wins).

The wins came over 7f–1m2f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Arthur's Realm (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Arthur's Realm (IRE)5251m–1m2fClass 2
Vernet (IRE)727f—
Magnatura (IRE)1227fClass 4
Morning Soldier (IRE)3117f—
Marunouchi (IRE)211m2f—

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 6 0 0% −6.00
Good to Soft 5 0 0% −5.00
Good to Firm 5 1 20% −0.50
Standard (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 10 1 10% −5.50
Class 5 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 6 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 1 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Musselburgh 6 1 17% −1.50
Newcastle (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Perth 1 0 0% −1.00
Ayr 1 0 0% −1.00
York 1 0 0% −1.00
Newmarket 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton 1 0 0% −1.00
Cheltenham 1 0 0% −1.00
Huntingdon 1 0 0% −1.00
Uttoxeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Ffos Las 1 0 0% −1.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00
Down Royal 1 0 0% −1.00
Killarney 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 12 1 8% −7.50
1m2f – 1m4f 7 0 0% −7.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Harrison Shaw 3 0 0% −3.00
Paddy Brennan 3 0 0% −3.00
Callum Bewley 2 0 0% −2.00
Alain Cawley 2 1 50% +2.50
Luke Morris 2 0 0% −2.00
Blair Campbell 1 0 0% −1.00
Ben Robinson 1 0 0% −1.00
Paddy Mathers 1 0 0% −1.00
Josephine Gordon 1 0 0% −1.00
Brett Doyle 1 0 0% −1.00
Jack Quinlan 1 0 0% −1.00
Shane Foley 1 0 0% −1.00
Donnacha O'Brien 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 10 0 0% −10.00
Cheekpieces 7 0 0% −7.00
Blinkers 3 1 33% +1.50

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2020 3 0 0% −3.00
2019 9 0 0% −9.00
2018 8 1 13% −3.50

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 11 0 0% −11.00
Hurdle 9 1 11% −4.50

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
21 Jul 20+186d Perth Scottish Enterprise Supports Perth Racecourse Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good · 7 ran 7/7 5½ 10-9 105107C83C Blair Campbell 10/1
17 Jan 20+9d Musselburgh Betway Heed Your Hunch Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Good To Soft · 11 ran PU/11 — 11-6 108—— Callum Bewley 22/1
08 Jan 20+25d Newcastle (AW) Betway Heed Your Hunch Handicap Class 6 · 12.5f · Standard To Slow · 13 ran 9/13 1½ 9-6 6489B69A Harrison Shaw 8/1
14 Dec 19+19d Newcastle (AW) Betway Heed Your Hunch Handicap Class 6 · 16.5f · Standard · 13 ran 7/13 shd 10-2 6785B77A Ben Robinson 25/1
25 Nov 19+67d Musselburgh Follow racing_uk On Twitter Now Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 15.5f · Good To Soft · 13 ran F/13 — 11-7 108—— Callum Bewley 16/1
19 Sep 19+11d Ayr S.T. Andrew Plant Hire Handicap Class 5 · 13f · Good · 15 ran 11/15 2 9-11 70108C64A Harrison Shaw 18/1
08 Sep 19+30d York Sha And Carat Apprentice Handicap Class 4 · 12f · Good · 14 ran 8/14 ½ 8-13 7064C74A Harrison Shaw 40/1
09 Aug 19+69d Musselburgh Archerfield Cup Handicap Class 3 · 14f · Soft · 6 ran 5/6 12 8-4 7475C57C Paddy Mathers 20/1
01 Jun 19+16d Musselburgh Silk Series Lady Riders' Handicap Class 4 · 14f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 8/9 5 10-4 7553A61A Josephine Gordon 6/1
16 May 19+67d Newmarket Bestwestern.co.uk Handicap Class 4 · 12f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 3/7 ¾ 8-11 7591A80A Brett Doyle 33/1
10 Mar 19+15d Musselburgh Like RacingTV On Facebook Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 16.5f · Good To Soft · 6 ran F/6 — 10-10 112—— Alain Cawley 11/4
23 Feb 19+98d Kempton 888Sport Take 'Em On Adonis Juvenile Hurdle (Grade 2) Class 1 · 16f · Good · 12 ran PU/12 — 10-12 112—— Jack Quinlan 40/1
17 Nov 18+10d Cheltenham JCB Triumph Trial Juvenile Hurdle (Grade 2) (Registered As The Prestbury Juvenile Hurdle) Class 1 · 16.5f · Good · 6 ran 5/6 2½ 10-12 11287B116B Paddy Brennan 50/1
07 Nov 18+3d Musselburgh Watch Racing UK With Free Trial Now Juvenile Hurdle Class 4 · 15.5f · Good To Firm · 6 ran 1/6 10-12 —108B115B Alain Cawley 7/2
04 Nov 18+17d Huntingdon Cemetery Development Services Ltd Juvenile Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good · 7 ran 4/7 3¾ 10-12 —112B96A Paddy Brennan 7/2
18 Oct 18+43d Uttoxeter Moorland Racing Juvenile Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 3/9 5 10-12 —72B102A Paddy Brennan 7/1
05 Sep 18+29d Ffos Las Weatherbys Racing Bank Foreign Exchange Novice Stakes Class 5 · 12f · Good To Firm · 8 ran 5/8 3 9-2 78114C57C Luke Morris 14/1
07 Aug 18+45d Nottingham Smarkets Novice Stakes Class 5 · 10f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 5/7 2¾ 9-0 —81C61C Luke Morris 12/1
23 Jun 18+39d Down Royal Irish Stallion Farms Ebf Median Auction Maiden 10.5f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 2/7 ½ 9-5 —80A84A Shane Foley 3/1
15 May 18 Killarney Irish Stallion Farms EBF Median Auction (C & G) Maiden 11f · Soft · 8 ran 3/8 4 9-0 —70A71A Donnacha O'Brien 7/2

Quick answers

How many races has Needs To Be Seen (FR) won?
Needs To Be Seen (FR) won 1 of 20 archived starts between 2018 and 2020, a strike rate of 5%. Placed 4 times in total (20% of starts).
Who trained Needs To Be Seen (FR)?
Needs To Be Seen (FR) was trained by Lucinda Russell on the most recent run on record, at Perth on 21 July 2020.
Who is Needs To Be Seen (FR)'s sire?
Needs To Be Seen (FR) is by Motivator (GB) out of Morning Line (FR), whose sire is Anabaa.
What going does Needs To Be Seen (FR) prefer?
Needs To Be Seen (FR) has the best record on good to firm going: 1 win from 5 starts (20%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Needs To Be Seen (FR)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 105, from the run on 21 July 2020. The highest on record is 112.
What is Needs To Be Seen (FR)'s sire's record?
Motivator (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 5,575 runs since Jan 2008 (511 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on soft going: 15.9% from 1,080. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 7.8% from 1,277. Strongest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 15.1% from 589. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 8.7% from 573.
Who are Needs To Be Seen (FR)'s siblings?
Out of Morning Line (FR), Needs To Be Seen (FR) has 5 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Arthur's Realm (IRE) (5). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Arthur's Realm (IRE)). The wins came over 7f–1m2f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2018. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.