Horse profile
Negotiation (IRE)
by Refuse To Bend (IRE) out of Dona Royale (IRE) (Darshaan)
39 runs · 15 courses · from Mar 2009
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 1 May 2012 — 5,279 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2012 · 7th of 8
2 wins · Newmarket & Yarmouth
Last raced off OR 63
KTB Profile
Negotiation (IRE) is 2 from 39. Hasn't won since Aug 2009. Both wins have come on turf — 0 from 12 on the all-weather, and both wins came on good or faster ground (0 from 3 on softer). Last raced off 63, 22lb below the career-high mark.
Based on 39 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance
All wins on turf
Wins on good or faster
OR ↓ 22lb off peak
- 2–39Wins / Runs
- 5.1%Strike rate
- 9 (23.1%)Placed
- −27.50£1 level staken=39 at SP
- 0.54Fair A/E n=39 · 0.47 incl. margin
- 85Highest OR
- 30dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating63↓ 22lb off peak
63
63–85
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Sep 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Refuse To Bend (IRE)
Progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 4,868 runs since Jan 2008 (320 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 58 | 4 | 6.9% | −2.9 | — |
| Good to Firm | 952 | 89 | 9.3% | −0.5 | 1 from 17 |
| Good | 1,094 | 109 | 10% | +0.2 | 1 from 7 |
| Good to Soft | 555 | 56 | 10.1% | +0.3 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 715 | 70 | 9.8% | 0 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 245 | 20 | 8.2% | −1.6 | 0 from 1 |
| Standard (AW) | 1,249 | 129 | 10.3% | +0.5 | 0 from 12 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 290 | 31 | 10.7% | +0.9 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 1,529 | 143 | 9.4% | −0.4 | 0 from 4 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1,041 | 106 | 10.2% | +0.4 | 2 from 20 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 944 | 87 | 9.2% | −0.6 | 0 from 13 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 671 | 61 | 9.1% | −0.7 | 0 from 2 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 297 | 34 | 11.4% | +1.6 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 90 | 15 | 16.7% | +6.9 | — |
| Over 3m | 6 | 0 | 0% | −9.8 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Dam
Dona Royale (IRE) (Darshaan)
3 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Bazelle (GB) (2 wins).
The wins came over 7f–1m1½f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Bazelle (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bazelle (GB) | 11 | 2 | 1m½f–1m1½f | Class 5 |
| Operation Chariot (IRE) | 12 | 1 | 7f | Class 5 |
| Dream West (IRE) | 6 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 17 | 1 | 6% | −11.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 12 | 0 | 0% | −12.00 |
| Good | 7 | 1 | 14% | −1.50 |
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 5 | 18 | 1 | 6% | −12.50 |
| Class 4 | 14 | 1 | 7% | −8.00 |
| Class 6 | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Class 2 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yarmouth | 8 | 1 | 13% | −2.50 |
| Kempton (AW) | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Newmarket | 6 | 1 | 17% | +0.00 |
| Lingfield (AW) | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Lingfield | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Sandown | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Leicester | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Brighton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Plumpton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Huntingdon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| York | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Pontefract | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Windsor | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Goodwood | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m – 1m1f | 20 | 2 | 10% | −8.50 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 13 | 0 | 0% | −13.00 |
| 6f – 7f | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Franny Norton | 12 | 0 | 0% | −12.00 |
| Pat Cosgrave | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Jimmy Fortune | 5 | 1 | 20% | +0.50 |
| Richard Mullen | 3 | 1 | 33% | +3.00 |
| Martin Dwyer | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Jack Doyle | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| William Buick | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Sean Levey | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jamie Spencer | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Chris Catlin | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| William Carson | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Seb Sanders | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Eddie Ahern | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Louis-Philippe Beuzelin | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 37 | 2 | 5% | −25.50 |
| Visor | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2012 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2011 | 16 | 0 | 0% | −16.00 |
| 2010 | 17 | 0 | 0% | −17.00 |
| 2009 | 5 | 2 | 40% | +6.50 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 37 | 2 | 5% | −25.50 |
| Hurdle | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 01 May 12+194d | Yarmouth | Havenholidayhomes.co.uk Handicap | 7/8 | 33 | 9-1 | 63 | 56C | Franny Norton | 33/1 |
| 20 Oct 11+3d | Brighton | Ricky Hatton Here 9th November Handicap | 11/11 | 99 | 9-5 | 63 | 52C | Sean Levey | 20/1 |
| 17 Oct 11+15d | Plumpton | Totepool Maiden Hurdle | RR/6 | — | 11-0 | — | — | Jack Doyle | 16/1 |
| 02 Oct 11+4d | Huntingdon | TurfTV Novices' Hurdle | 11/12 | 23 | 10-12 | — | 75C | Jack Doyle | 66/1 |
| 28 Sep 11+36d | Kempton (AW) | Racing at skysports.com Claiming Stakes | 8/9 | 1 | 9-4 | 63 | 68A | Franny Norton | 28/1 |
| 23 Aug 11+15d | Yarmouth | Chc Helicopters Handicap | RR/8 | — | 9-6 | 63 | — | Jamie Spencer | 4/1 |
| 08 Aug 11+4d | Lingfield | Hare Lane Handicap | 4/6 | 1 | 9-4 | 65 | 73B | Pat Cosgrave | 4/1 |
| 04 Aug 11+23d | Yarmouth | Time & Tide Museum Handicap | 6/10 | nk | 10-0 | 65 | 73A | Richard Mullen | 7/2 |
| 12 Jul 11+18d | Yarmouth | Adios Handicap | 3/10 | 1½ | 9-0 | 66 | 77A | Richard Mullen | 14/1 |
| 24 Jun 11+14d | Newmarket | Newmarket Nights Handicap | 6/14 | shd | 9-6 | 67 | 78A | Jimmy Fortune | 5/1F |
| 10 Jun 11+10d | York | William Birch & Sons Ltd Handicap | 2/18 | 3¼ | 8-8 | 66 | 87A | Franny Norton | 33/1 |
| 31 May 11+19d | Yarmouth | PLT Anti-Marketing Handicap | 5/7 | 3 | 8-10 | 66 | 61A | William Buick | 4/1 |
| 12 May 11+66d | Newmarket | East Anglian Daily Times Handicap | 5/10 | 1¼ | 9-1 | 69 | 74A | Pat Cosgrave | 16/1 |
| 07 Mar 11+12d | Lingfield (AW) | Atr Cheltenham Megasite Now Live Claiming Stakes | 7/7 | 1¾ | 9-1 | 71 | 63A | Franny Norton | 25/1 |
| 23 Feb 11+21d | Kempton (AW) | betdaq.com Exchange Price Multiples Handicap | 7/10 | nse | 9-4 | 72 | 67A | Martin Dwyer | 13/2 |
| 02 Feb 11+9d | Kempton (AW) | Racing At skysports.com Handicap | 4/12 | shd | 9-3 | 71 | 78A | Chris Catlin | 22/1 |
| 24 Jan 11+25d | Kempton (AW) | Book Racing Post Chase Day Handicap (London Mile Qualifier) | 5/10 | nse | 8-7 | 71 | 75A | Franny Norton | 10/1 |
| 30 Dec 10+21d | Lingfield (AW) | East Grinstead Claiming Stakes | 3/5 | 6 | 9-6 | 71 | 75B | Franny Norton | 7/4 |
| 09 Dec 10+15d | Kempton (AW) | Win A Kia Venga At Kempton.co.uk Handicap | 2/14 | nk | 9-5 | 68 | 84A | Franny Norton | 15/2 |
| 24 Nov 10+27d | Kempton (AW) | Racing At skysports.com Handicap | 2/12 | 1¾ | 9-2 | 67 | 78A | Franny Norton | 16/1 |
| 28 Oct 10+20d | Lingfield (AW) | Blue Square Winter Carnival Coming Soon Handicap | 4/10 | ¾ | 9-3 | 68 | 78A | William Buick | 14/1 |
| 08 Oct 10+23d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Breeders' Cup Live Only On ATR Handicap | 12/12 | ½ | 9-9 | 70 | 47C | Pat Cosgrave | 10/1 |
| 15 Sep 10+14d | Sandown | Watch Racing UK On Sky Channel 432 Handicap | 7/13 | 11 | 9-2 | 70 | 58C | Martin Dwyer | 20/1 |
| 01 Sep 10+27d | Lingfield | Gallagher Group Handicap | 2/12 | 1 | 9-9 | 68 | 91A | Pat Cosgrave | 10/1 |
| 05 Aug 10+35d | Yarmouth | Norfolk Racing Club / Zimzalabim.co.uk Howling Dandy Handicap | DSQ/11 | 9-13 | 63 | — | Pat Cosgrave | 22/1 | |
| 01 Jul 10+6d | Yarmouth | 'colonel' Has Joined Premier Racing Services Handicap | 7/7 | 8 | 9-4 | 67 | 36A | William Carson | 20/1 |
| 25 Jun 10+8d | Newmarket | Newmarket Nights Handicap | 10/10 | 11 | 9-9 | 70 | 46C | Seb Sanders | 16/1 |
| 17 Jun 10+5d | Leicester | David Wilson Homes Handicap | 7/7 | 2 | 9-2 | 72 | 56A | Franny Norton | 14/1 |
| 12 Jun 10+15d | Leicester | 3m Healthcare Handicap | 5/10 | 4 | 9-6 | 72 | 76A | Eddie Ahern | 18/1 |
| 28 May 10+13d | Pontefract | St. John Ambulance Handicap | 6/7 | 2¼ | 9-4 | 75 | 60A | Franny Norton | 8/1 |
| 15 May 10+14d | Newmarket | 32redpoker.com Handicap | 7/10 | hd | 9-2 | 77 | 75A | Martin Dwyer | 33/1 |
| 01 May 10+12d | Newmarket | StanJames.com Suffolk Stakes (Handicap) | 15/16 | nk | 7-11 | 81 | 48C | Louis-Philippe Beuzelin | 66/1 |
| 19 Apr 10+24d | Windsor | 19th Attheraces.com/punchestown Handicap | 10/11 | 2¾ | 9-4 | 84 | 62C | Franny Norton | 14/1 |
| 26 Mar 10+208d | Lingfield (AW) | Lingfield Park Sporting Membership Handicap | 6/6 | 1 | 9-4 | 85 | 61B | Franny Norton | 14/1 |
| 30 Aug 09+15d | Goodwood | South Coast Handicap | 10/13 | 2 | 9-7 | 85 | 71A | Jimmy Fortune | 3/1J |
| 15 Aug 09+17d | Newmarket | skysports.com/Super 6 Free To Enter 432 Handicap | 1/7 | 9-8 | 81 | 97A | Richard Mullen | 5/1 | |
| 29 Jul 09+107d | Sandown | Drivers Jonas Handicap | 2/5 | shd | 9-9 | 80 | 81B | Jimmy Fortune | 5/4F |
| 13 Apr 09+19d | Yarmouth | Toteplacepot Maiden Stakes (Div 1) | 1/9 | 8-12 | 80 | 93A | Jimmy Fortune | 9/2 | |
| 25 Mar 09 | Kempton (AW) | Digibet.com Maiden Stakes | 3/14 | shd | 9-3 | 65 | 81A | Jimmy Fortune | 9/2 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Negotiation (IRE) won?
- Negotiation (IRE) won 2 of 39 archived starts between 2009 and 2012, a strike rate of 5.1%. Placed 9 times in total (23.1% of starts).
- Who trained Negotiation (IRE)?
- Negotiation (IRE) was trained by Mick Quinn on the most recent run on record, at Yarmouth on 1 May 2012.
- Who is Negotiation (IRE)'s sire?
- Negotiation (IRE) is by Refuse To Bend (IRE) out of Dona Royale (IRE), whose sire is Darshaan.
- What going does Negotiation (IRE) prefer?
- Negotiation (IRE) has the best record on good going: 1 win from 7 starts (14.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Negotiation (IRE)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 63, from the run on 1 May 2012. The highest on record is 85.
- What is Negotiation (IRE)'s sire's record?
- Refuse To Bend (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 4,868 runs since Jan 2008 (320 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Negotiation (IRE)'s siblings?
- Out of Dona Royale (IRE), Negotiation (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Bazelle (GB) (2). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Bazelle (GB)). The wins came over 7f–1m1½f. As at Oct 2026.