Horse profile
Proper Charlie (GB)
6yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2014) · Last trainer Lee Carter · Last owner Peter Oakley Charles Whittaker
by Cadeaux Genereux (GB) out of Ring of Love (GB) (Magic Ring)
37 runs · 14 courses · from Jul 2010
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 26 Sep 2014 — 4,423 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2014 · 9th of 12
2 wins · Lingfield (AW)
Last raced off OR 51
KTB Profile
Proper Charlie (GB) is 2 from 37. Hasn't won since Jul 2012. Both wins have come on the all-weather — 0 from 16 on turf. Last raced off 51, 22lb below the career-high mark.
Based on 37 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance
All wins on AW
OR ↓ 22lb off peak
- 2–37Wins / Runs
- 5.4%Strike rate
- 8 (21.6%)Placed
- −27.75£1 level staken=37 at SP
- 0.39Fair A/E n=37 · 0.33 incl. margin
- 73Highest OR
- 20dBetween runs (median)longest 254 d
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating51↓ 22lb off peak
51
45–73
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Cadeaux Genereux (GB)
Progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 2,919 runs since Jan 2008 (203 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 30 | 1 | 3.3% | −6.8 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Firm | 549 | 56 | 10.2% | +0.1 | 0 from 8 |
| Good | 636 | 58 | 9.1% | −1 | 0 from 5 |
| Good to Soft | 296 | 35 | 11.8% | +1.7 | 0 from 2 |
| Soft | 363 | 41 | 11.3% | +1.2 | — |
| Heavy | 93 | 9 | 9.7% | −0.4 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 952 | 96 | 10.1% | 0 | 2 from 21 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 320 | 33 | 10.3% | +0.2 | 0 from 4 |
| 6f – 7f | 1,249 | 121 | 9.7% | −0.4 | 2 from 32 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 561 | 66 | 11.8% | +1.7 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 389 | 41 | 10.5% | +0.4 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 192 | 14 | 7.3% | −2.8 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 147 | 17 | 11.6% | +1.5 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 46 | 3 | 6.5% | −3.6 | — |
| Over 3m | 15 | 1 | 6.7% | −3.4 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Dam
Ring of Love (GB) (Magic Ring)
11 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Ring For Baileys (GB) (2 wins).
The wins came over 5f–1m; the highest grade won is Listed (Bahia Breeze (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ring For Baileys (GB) | 17 | 2 | 5f | Class 5 |
| Ringo Starlight (GB) | 15 | 2 | 6f | Class 6 |
| Bahia Breeze (GB) | 25 | 1 | 1m | Listed |
| Fire Orchid (GB) | 6 | 1 | 7f | Class 6 |
| Love Baileys (GB) | 13 | 1 | 6f | Class 6 |
| Tribunel (GB) | 9 | 0 | — | — |
| Commendation (GB) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
| Claddagh (GB) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
| Crown Of Flowers (GB) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
| Bickershaw (GB) | 9 | 0 | — | — |
| Musical Shares (GB) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 21 | 2 | 10% | −11.75 |
| Good to Firm | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| Good | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 6 | 16 | 1 | 6% | −12.75 |
| Class 5 | 16 | 1 | 6% | −10.00 |
| Class 4 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Lingfield (AW) | 14 | 2 | 14% | −4.75 |
| Lingfield | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Kempton (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Goodwood | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Yarmouth | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Leicester | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Folkestone | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Epsom Downs | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ripon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Warwick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Newbury | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Windsor | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Newmarket | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 32 | 2 | 6% | −22.75 |
| Under 6f | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jim Crowley | 9 | 2 | 22% | +0.25 |
| Stevie Donohoe | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Neil Callan | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Jamie Spencer | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Amir Quinn | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Paige Bolton | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Kieren Fox | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Adam Kirby | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Harry Bentley | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| William Carson | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Luke Morris | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ryan Moore | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Daniel Cremin | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ryan Tate | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| George Baker | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| David Kenny | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| William Buick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| J-P Guillambert | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 23 | 2 | 9% | −13.75 |
| Visor | 10 | 0 | 0% | −10.00 |
| Blinkers | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tongue tie | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2014 | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| 2013 | 12 | 0 | 0% | −12.00 |
| 2012 | 10 | 2 | 20% | −0.75 |
| 2011 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| 2010 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2014 · 6 runs | |||||||||
| 26 Sep 14+49d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Bet toteswinger Handicap | 9/12 | ¾ | 9-3 | 51 | 43A | Stevie Donohoe | 16/1 |
| 08 Aug 14+11d | Lingfield (AW) | Tersus Handicap | 4/7 | nk | 9-2 | 52 | 61A | Amir Quinn | 4/1 |
| 28 Jul 14+20d | Lingfield (AW) | 32Red Casino Handicap (Div 1) | 5/12 | ¾ | 9-4 | 52 | 73A | Stevie Donohoe | 10/1 |
| 08 Jul 14+139d | Lingfield (AW) | 32Red Handicap | 2/12 | 10 | 9-2 | 52 | 67A | Stevie Donohoe | 16/1 |
| 19 Feb 14+35d | Lingfield (AW) | Best Odds At Bookmakers.co.uk Claiming Stakes | 7/7 | 1¾ | 8-5 | 55 | 50A | William Carson | 8/1 |
| 15 Jan 14+32d | Lingfield (AW) | Best Odds At Bookmakers.co.uk Apprentice Handicap | 7/12 | nk | 8-12 | 58 | 62A | Paige Bolton | 6/1 |
| 2013 · 12 runs | |||||||||
| 14 Dec 13+17d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Best Odds At Bookmakers.co.uk Handicap | 12/13 | 1¼ | 9-1 | 59 | 56A | Luke Morris | 5/1J |
| 27 Nov 13+4d | Lingfield | Download The Ladbrokes App Apprentice Handicap | 10/14 | hd | 9-0 | 58 | 63A | Paige Bolton | 5/1J |
| 23 Nov 13+53d | Lingfield (AW) | Best Odds At bookmakers.co.uk Handicap (Div 2) | 3/12 | nk | 9-5 | 58 | 75A | Amir Quinn | 8/1 |
| 01 Oct 13+33d | Kempton (AW) | BetVictor Casino On Your Mobile Handicap (Div 1) | 9/12 | 1 | 8-12 | 61 | 57A | Ryan Moore | 5/1 |
| 29 Aug 13+26d | Lingfield | Stonegate Homes 3 Year Celebrations Handicap | 3/11 | 1¼ | 8-5 | 45 | 77A | Kieren Fox | 4/1 |
| 03 Aug 13+14d | Lingfield | Vines Bmw Apprentice Handicap | 6/11 | ½ | 8-10 | 47 | 57A | Daniel Cremin | 7/1 |
| 20 Jul 13+135d | Lingfield | Itm Ease Auto Enrolment Solution Handicap | 3/7 | 2¾ | 8-10 | 48 | 67A | Kieren Fox | 6/1 |
| 07 Mar 13+5d | Wolverhampton (AW) | 32 Bonus At 32Red.com Selling Stakes | 2/6 | hd | 8-7 | 68 | 78B | Ryan Tate | 11/10F |
| 02 Mar 13+14d | Lingfield (AW) | AXA PPP International Selling Stakes | 4/4 | shd | 9-0 | 68 | 66B | Adam Kirby | 4/6F |
| 16 Feb 13+16d | Lingfield (AW) | Blue Square Bet Sprint Series Round 7 Handicap (Qualifier) (Div 2) | 5/8 | ¾ | 9-7 | 70 | 74A | George Baker | 4/1J |
| 31 Jan 13+6d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Coralchampionsclub.co.uk Classified Claiming Stakes | 2/6 | ¾ | 9-12 | 72 | 80B | Adam Kirby | 13/8F |
| 25 Jan 13+28d | Lingfield (AW) | Blue Square Bet Handicap | 7/9 | ½ | 9-4 | 72 | 71A | Jim Crowley | 14/1 |
| 2012 · 10 runs | |||||||||
| 28 Dec 12+115d | Lingfield (AW) | 32Red Handicap | 7/7 | hd | 8-12 | 73 | 65A | Jim Crowley | 4/1 |
| 04 Sep 12+11d | Leicester | Six Hills Handicap | 17/17 | nk | 8-13 | 62 | 44C | Jim Crowley | 10/1 |
| 24 Aug 12+11d | Goodwood | Chichester Observer Apprentice Handicap | 4/10 | 3¼ | 9-1 | 64 | 75A | David Kenny | 12/1 |
| 13 Aug 12+19d | Lingfield (AW) | 32red.com Handicap | 5/7 | shd | 8-13 | 73 | 71A | Neil Callan | 9/2 |
| 25 Jul 12+4d | Lingfield (AW) | Adrian Hall Memorial Handicap | 1/11 | 9-10 | 68 | 96A | Jim Crowley | 5/1 | |
| 21 Jul 12+23d | Lingfield | Lingfield Park Owners Group Handicap | 10/15 | 2½ | 9-12 | 65 | 60A | Jim Crowley | 14/1 |
| 28 Jun 12+44d | Yarmouth | Best Prices At BetVictor.com Handicap | 10/12 | 4 | 9-5 | 68 | 47C | William Buick | 9/1 |
| 15 May 12+14d | Kempton (AW) | Racing UK Handicap | 7/11 | ½ | 9-5 | 68 | 72A | Jim Crowley | 6/1 |
| 01 May 12+17d | Lingfield (AW) | Betfred Mobile Casino Handicap (Div 1) | 1/9 | 9-7 | 65 | 76A | Jim Crowley | 9/4F | |
| 14 Apr 12+254d | Lingfield (AW) | Ladbrokes Odds On For Success Game On Handicap | 4/14 | nk | 9-2 | 65 | 76A | Jim Crowley | 14/1 |
| 2011 · 5 runs | |||||||||
| 04 Aug 11+35d | Folkestone | ladbrokes.com Handicap (Str) | 3/5 | 5 | 9-1 | 67 | 70B | J-P Guillambert | 9/2 |
| 30 Jun 11+20d | Epsom Downs | totepool A Better Way To Bet Handicap | 5/10 | ½ | 7-12 | 68 | 55A | Harry Bentley | 16/1 |
| 10 Jun 11+17d | Goodwood | Frankie's 24th Anniversary Maiden Stakes | 5/8 | 2½ | 8-12 | 70 | 57A | Harry Bentley | 20/1 |
| 24 May 11+14d | Ripon | Weatherbys Bloodstock Insurance Handicap | 6/10 | 6 | 9-6 | 72 | 52A | Jamie Spencer | 7/1 |
| 10 May 11+235d | Warwick | Warwick Racecourse Maiden Stakes (Div 1) | 3/13 | 6 | 9-0 | 72 | 76A | Jamie Spencer | 5/2 |
| 2010 · 4 runs | |||||||||
| 17 Sep 10+25d | Newbury | Malone Roofing E.B.F. Maiden Stakes (Div 1) | 4/12 | nk | 9-3 | 72 | 82A | Neil Callan | 7/1 |
| 23 Aug 10+24d | Windsor | E.b.f. Sportingbet.com Maiden Stakes | 9/11 | 1 | 9-3 | — | 47A | Jim Crowley | 5/1 |
| 30 Jul 10+17d | Newmarket | European Breeders' Fund Maiden Stakes | 4/11 | 2 | 9-3 | — | 78A | Neil Callan | 9/1 |
| 13 Jul 10 | Yarmouth | E.b.f. Aeropak Maiden Stakes | 5/9 | ¾ | 9-3 | — | 67A | Jamie Spencer | 10/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Proper Charlie won?
- Proper Charlie (GB) won 2 of 37 archived starts between 2010 and 2014, a strike rate of 5.4%. Placed 8 times in total (21.6% of starts).
- Who trained Proper Charlie?
- Proper Charlie (GB) was trained by Lee Carter on the most recent run on record, at Wolverhampton (AW) on 26 September 2014.
- Who is Proper Charlie's sire?
- Proper Charlie (GB) is by Cadeaux Genereux (GB) out of Ring of Love (GB), whose sire is Magic Ring.
- What going does Proper Charlie prefer?
- Proper Charlie (GB) has the best record on standard (aw) going: 2 wins from 21 starts (9.5%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Proper Charlie's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 51, from the run on 26 September 2014. The highest on record is 73.
- What is Proper Charlie's sire's record?
- Cadeaux Genereux (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 2,919 runs since Jan 2008 (203 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Proper Charlie's siblings?
- Out of Ring of Love (GB), Proper Charlie (GB) has 11 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Ring For Baileys (GB) (2). Highest grade won: Listed (Bahia Breeze (GB)). The wins came over 5f–1m. As at Nov 2026.