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Horse profile

Too Forward (IRE)

14yo gelding (at last run, Jan 2010) · Last trainer Jamie Snowden · Last owner Richard Pitman
by Toulon (GB) out of One Back (IRE) (Meneval)
27 runs · 10 courses · from Jan 2005
As at 15 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 23 Jan 2010 — 6,108 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jan 2010 · 1st of 9 Won last time out 5 wins · 5 courses Last raced off OR 125
KTB Profile

Too Forward (IRE) is 5 from 27 in our archive, including 2 Listed wins. The biggest win we hold: the Unicoin Homes Handicap Chase at Cheltenham (Jan 2007). Won last time out at Wincanton (Class 3), off a mark 19lb below the previous winning one.

Based on 27 archived runs · updated 15 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 28lb off peak
Official rating125↓ 28lb off peak
125 124–153

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 131A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Wincanton, 23 Jan 2010 Official rating 125 at the last run, 23 Jan 2010

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Jumps 24 figures · best 132C · median 116
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 15 Oct 2025
Good to Soft11129C112—
Good8132C113.5—
Heavy3131A131—
Soft2131C110.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 15 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m14132C124.5—
2m1f – 2m4f5131C112—
Over 3m5124A108—

Of 27 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 24 figures from 27 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Toulon (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.1% of 168 runs since Jan 2008 (17 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm100%−7.1—
Good to Firm2015%−2.1—
Good6258.1%+11 from 10
Good to Soft3900%−7.11 from 12
Soft29517.2%+10.11 from 2
Heavy1616.3%−0.82 from 3
Standard (AW)100%−7.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m2f – 1m4f100%−7.1—
1m5f – 2m3200%−7.1—
2m1f – 2m4f59711.9%+4.81 from 6
2m5f – 3m4924.1%−33 from 16
Over 3m27311.1%+41 from 5

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
One Back (IRE) (Meneval)

3 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Little Rocker (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m3f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Little Rocker (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Little Rocker (IRE)3122m–2m3fClass 4
Bombalong (IRE)612m—
Class Action (IRE)50——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 12 1 8% −9.50
Good 10 1 10% +1.00
Heavy 3 2 67% +19.00
Soft 2 1 50% +4.50

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 1 17 2 12% −5.50
Class 2 6 0 0% −6.00
Class 3 3 2 67% +25.00
Class 4 1 1 100% +1.50

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Cheltenham 11 1 9% −6.00
Newbury 5 1 20% +6.00
Aintree 3 0 0% −3.00
Wincanton 2 1 50% +15.00
Uttoxeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Wetherby 1 1 100% +5.50
Southwell 1 0 0% −1.00
Haydock 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton 1 0 0% −1.00
Folkestone 1 1 100% +1.50

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 16 3 19% +17.00
2m1f – 2m4f 6 1 17% +0.50
Over 3m 5 1 20% −2.50

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Timmy Murphy 8 2 25% +3.50
Tony Dobbin 4 0 0% −4.00
Mick Fitzgerald 3 1 33% −0.50
Daryl Jacob 2 0 0% −2.00
Paul Moloney 2 0 0% −2.00
Carl Llewellyn 2 1 50% +9.00
Jimmy Derham 1 1 100% +16.00
Barry Geraghty 1 0 0% −1.00
Tom O'Brien 1 0 0% −1.00
Paddy Brennan 1 0 0% −1.00
Graham Lee 1 0 0% −1.00
Seamus Durack 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2010 1 1 100% +16.00
2009 5 0 0% −5.00
2008 5 0 0% −5.00
2007 4 1 25% +1.00
2006 6 1 17% +0.50
2005 6 2 33% +7.50

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
23 Jan 10+56d Wincanton Bruton Handicap Chase Class 3 · 21f · Heavy · 9 ran 1/9 11-5 125131A Jimmy Derham 16/1
28 Nov 09+239d Newbury Sportingbet.com Handicap Chase Class 2 · 20f · Good To Soft · 18 ran 6/18 6 10-13 132106C Daryl Jacob 33/1
03 Apr 09+34d Aintree John Smith's Topham Chase (handicap) Class 2 · 21f · Good · 29 ran 7/29 5 10-2 135105C Daryl Jacob 40/1
28 Feb 09+35d Newbury Totesport.com Gold Cup Handicap Chase Class 1 · 20f · Good · 15 ran 7/15 2¾ 10-9 137109A Barry Geraghty 16/1
24 Jan 09+23d Cheltenham Betchronicle.com Trophy Chase (Grade 3 Handicap) Class 1 · 21f · Heavy · 13 ran 3/13 ½ 10-5 135127A Timmy Murphy 10/1
01 Jan 09+33d Cheltenham Skybet.com Handicap Chase (Grade 3) Class 1 · 21f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 6/14 1 10-7 139114A Timmy Murphy 25/1
29 Nov 08+210d Newbury Totesport.com Handicap Chase Class 2 · 20f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 4/13 ½ 11-7 140128A Tom O'Brien 33/1
03 May 08+29d Uttoxeter totepool Handicap Chase (For The Tom Wragg Trophy) Class 2 · 24f · Good To Soft · 11 ran PU/11 — 11-12 142— Timmy Murphy 12/1
04 Apr 08+34d Aintree John Smith's Topham Handicap Chase Class 2 · 21f · Good To Soft · 29 ran 9/29 14 11-10 143108C Timmy Murphy 22/1
01 Mar 08+60d Newbury National Britannia Veterans' Handicap Chase Class 2 · 26f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 5/13 6 11-12 145124A Paddy Brennan 10/1
01 Jan 08+45d Cheltenham Turftv New Year Handicap Chase (Listed) Class 1 · 21f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 4/14 4 11-9 148128A Mick Fitzgerald 20/1
17 Nov 07+213d Cheltenham Paddy Power Gold Cup Chase (Handicap) Class 1 · 20.5f · Good · 20 ran PU/20 — 11-6 153— Paul Moloney 66/1
18 Apr 07+34d Cheltenham Faucets For Mira Showers Silver Trophy Handicap Chase Class 1 · 21f · Good · 6 ran 2/6 3 11-10 147132C Timmy Murphy 11/2
15 Mar 07+73d Cheltenham Ryanair Chase (Grade 2) Class 1 · 21f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 8/9 28 11-0 15297C Paul Moloney 16/1
01 Jan 07+51d Cheltenham Unicoin Homes Handicap Chase (Listed) Class 1 · 21f · Heavy · 7 ran 1/7 11-4 144131C Timmy Murphy 4/1
11 Nov 06+14d Cheltenham Paddy Power Gold Cup Chase (Handicap) Class 1 · 20.5f · Good To Soft · 16 ran 9/16 7 11-10 147112C Tony Dobbin 12/1
28 Oct 06+192d Wetherby Weatherbys Bank Handicap Chase (Listed) Class 1 · 19.5f · Soft · 8 ran 1/8 11-5 138131C Timmy Murphy 11/2
19 Apr 06+34d Cheltenham Faucets Handicap Chase (Grade 2) Class 1 · 21f · Good · 7 ran 2/7 8 10-4 138124C Tony Dobbin 15/2
16 Mar 06+47d Cheltenham Racing Post Plate Handicap Chase (Grd3) Class 1 · 21f · Good · 24 ran UR/24 — 11-4 138— Tony Dobbin 16/1
28 Jan 06+27d Southwell Sky Bet Great Yorkshire Handicap Chase (Listed) Class 1 · 24.5f · Good To Soft · 15 ran 5/15 1½ 11-8 138107C Carl Llewellyn 9/2J
01 Jan 06+35d Cheltenham Unicoin Homes Handicap Chase (Listed) Class 1 · 21f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 2/13 ¾ 10-9 135129C Timmy Murphy 17/2
27 Nov 05+22d Newbury Racing UK Handicap Chase Class 3 · 22.5f · Good · 10 ran 1/10 11-9 127125C Carl Llewellyn 10/1
05 Nov 05+211d Wincanton Badger Ales Handicap Chase (Listed) Class 1 · 25f · Good · 12 ran 7/12 ¾ 10-12 129118C Graham Lee 16/1
08 Apr 05+48d Aintree Mildmay Novices' Chase (Grade 2) Class 1 · 25f · Good · 10 ran 5/10 5 11-2 13195C Seamus Durack 33/1
19 Feb 05+19d Haydock Handicap Chase (Grade 3) Class 1 · 28.5f · Soft · 11 ran 7/11 4 10-2 12490C Tony Dobbin 5/1
31 Jan 05+28d Kempton Novices' Chase Class 3 · 24f · Good · 6 ran 2/6 4 11-9 —108C Mick Fitzgerald 9/4
03 Jan 05 Folkestone Beginners' Chase Class 4 · 25f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 1/9 11-5 —108C Mick Fitzgerald 3/2F

Quick answers

How many races has Too Forward (IRE) won?
Too Forward (IRE) won 5 of 27 archived starts between 2005 and 2010, a strike rate of 18.5%. Placed 10 times in total (37% of starts).
Who trained Too Forward (IRE)?
Too Forward (IRE) was trained by Jamie Snowden on the most recent run on record, at Wincanton on 23 January 2010.
Who is Too Forward (IRE)'s sire?
Too Forward (IRE) is by Toulon (GB) out of One Back (IRE), whose sire is Meneval.
What going does Too Forward (IRE) prefer?
Too Forward (IRE) has the best record on heavy going: 2 wins from 3 starts (66.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Too Forward (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 125, from the run on 23 January 2010. The highest on record is 153.
What is Too Forward (IRE)'s sire's record?
Toulon (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.1% of 168 runs since Jan 2008 (17 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Too Forward (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of One Back (IRE), Too Forward (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Little Rocker (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Little Rocker (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–2m3f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from January 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.