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Horse profile

But You Said (IRE)

6yo mare (at last run, Feb 2023) · Last trainer Sarah Hollinshead · Last owner The Giddy Gang
by No Nay Never (USA) out of San Macchia (GB) (Rock Of Gibraltar)
28 runs · 13 courses · from Apr 2019
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 12 Feb 2023 — 1,361 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Feb 2023 · 14th of 14 Last raced off OR 43
KTB Profile

But You Said is a maiden who won none of 28 starts and placed four times between Apr 2019 and Feb 2023. Her best effort came when second of 11 at Bath in Jun 2022. The mare, by No Nay Never out of a Rock Of Gibraltar mare, raced on both turf and all-weather without success, mainly over 6f to 7f. She finished 14th of 14 at Southwell (AW) in Feb 2023 when last raced off an official rating of 43, 33lb below her highest ever mark.

Based on 28 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 33lb off peak
Official rating43↓ 33lb off peak
43 43–76

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 84 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Wolverhampton (AW), 9 Dec 2022

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 28 figures · best 94A · median 79.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Standard (AW)1394A80—
Soft586A56—
Good to Firm386A81—
Good385C81—
Good to Soft387C70—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
6f – 7f1994A75—
Under 6f891B83.5—
1m2f – 1m4f1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 28 figures from 28 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 49A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Wolverhampton (AW), 3 Jan 2023 Official rating 43 at the last run, 12 Feb 2023

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 28 figures · best 79B · median 58.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Standard (AW)1366A55—
Soft573A71—
Good to Firm376A40—
Good363A55—
Good to Soft379B68—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
6f – 7f1973A61—
Under 6f879B57—
1m2f – 1m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 28 figures from 28 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,358 runs since Apr 2018 (708 horses).

Weakest on good to soft going: 9.1% from 618. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 185.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm16531.3%+19.2—
Good to Firm92712213.2%+1.10 from 3
Good1,48918112.2%+0.10 from 3
Good to Soft618569.1%−30 from 3
Soft85011012.9%+0.80 from 5
Heavy2853713%+0.90 from 1
Standard (AW)2,17325911.9%−0.20 from 13
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f91512313.4%+1.30 from 8
6f – 7f3,40444313%+0.90 from 19
1m – 1m1f1,18913111%−1.1—
1m2f – 1m4f583549.3%−2.80 from 1
1m5f – 2m185147.6%−4.5—
2m1f – 2m4f7756.5%−5.6—
2m5f – 3m500%−12.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2018 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
San Macchia (GB) (Rock Of Gibraltar)

2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Buying Time (IRE)50——
Macintosh Lady (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 13 0 0% −13.00
Soft 5 0 0% −5.00
Good to Firm 3 0 0% −3.00
Good 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 15 0 0% −15.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Southwell (AW) 6 0 0% −6.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 4 0 0% −4.00
Fairyhouse 3 0 0% −3.00
Catterick 2 0 0% −2.00
Bath 2 0 0% −2.00
Sligo 2 0 0% −2.00
Dundalk (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Naas 2 0 0% −2.00
Chelmsford City (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Cork 1 0 0% −1.00
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 19 0 0% −19.00
Under 6f 8 0 0% −8.00
1m2f – 1m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Shane Foley 6 0 0% −6.00
J M Sheridan 3 0 0% −3.00
Joe Doyle 3 0 0% −3.00
Daniel Muscutt 2 0 0% −2.00
David Probert 2 0 0% −2.00
P J McDonald 2 0 0% −2.00
Thomas Greatrex 1 0 0% −1.00
Tyler Heard 1 0 0% −1.00
Gina Mangan 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr Cameron Hillhouse 1 0 0% −1.00
Frederick Larson 1 0 0% −1.00
Oliver Stammers 1 0 0% −1.00
William Cox 1 0 0% −1.00
Tom Marquand 1 0 0% −1.00
Laura Pearson 1 0 0% −1.00
Katelyn Young 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 25 0 0% −25.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00
Visor 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2023 2 0 0% −2.00
2022 11 0 0% −11.00
2021 9 0 0% −9.00
2020 3 0 0% −3.00
2019 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2023 · 2 runs
12 Feb 23+40d Southwell (AW) Top Odds Every Day With Betuk Classified Stakes Class 6 · 6f · Standard · 14 ran 14/14 3¼ 9-2 4359C36C Thomas Greatrex 100/1
03 Jan 23+13d Wolverhampton (AW) Top Odds Every Day With BetUK Classified Stakes (Div 2) Class 6 · 5f · Standard · 10 ran 9/10 1¼ 9-2 4477A49A Daniel Muscutt 22/1
2022 · 11 runs
21 Dec 22+12d Wolverhampton (AW) Huge Daily Boosts Only At BetUK Handicap Class 6 · 5f · Standard · 10 ran 10/10 ½ 8-6 4583A44A Tyler Heard 40/1
09 Dec 22+10d Wolverhampton (AW) Huge Daily Boosts Only At BetUK Handicap (Div 1) Class 6 · 5f · Standard · 10 ran 5/10 ½ 8-12 4684A65A Gina Mangan 12/1
29 Nov 22+35d Wolverhampton (AW) BetUK's Acca Club 5 Free Bet Amateur Jockeys' Handicap (Div 2) Class 6 · 6f · Standard · 11 ran 4/11 2¼ 10-2 4676A63A Mr Cameron Hillhouse 40/1
25 Oct 22+118d Catterick Jump Season Starts 18th November Handicap (Div 1) Class 6 · 6f · Soft · 9 ran 9/9 29 8-7 47-43C34C Frederick Larson 33/1
29 Jun 22+26d Bath At The Races App Market Movers Classified Stakes Class 6 · 5f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 9/10 8 9-7 4781A26A David Probert 5/1
03 Jun 22+47d Bath Download The At The Races App Handicap Class 6 · 5½f · Good To Firm · 11 ran 2/11 nk 9-0 4586A76A Daniel Muscutt 11/1
17 Apr 22+38d Southwell (AW) Nottingham City Transport Handicap Class 6 · 6f · Standard To Slow · 14 ran 5/14 ½ 8-10 4775B66A Oliver Stammers 40/1
10 Mar 22+14d Southwell (AW) Play 4 To Win At Betway Classified Stakes (Div 2) Class 6 · 6f · Standard To Slow · 9 ran 4/9 1¼ 9-7 4767A66A David Probert 28/1
24 Feb 22+36d Southwell (AW) MansionBet Best Odds Guaranteed Apprentice Handicap (Div 1) Class 6 · 7f · Standard To Slow · 11 ran 8/11 4 8-12 4985A53A William Cox 50/1
19 Jan 22+13d Southwell (AW) Betway Classified Stakes Class 6 · 5f · Standard To Slow · 12 ran 11/12 shd 9-2 4987A38A P J McDonald 40/1
06 Jan 22+21d Chelmsford City (AW) Book Tickets Online At chelmsfordcityracecourse.com Classified Stakes Class 6 · 6f · Standard · 10 ran 6/10 ½ 9-2 5094A61A Tom Marquand 12/1
2021 · 9 runs
16 Dec 21+51d Southwell (AW) Play 4 To Win At Betway Handicap (Div 2) Class 6 · 5f · Standard To Slow · 14 ran 3/14 ½ 8-12 5091B66A P J McDonald 28/1
26 Oct 21+95d Catterick Jump Season Starts 19th November Handicap Class 6 · 6f · Soft · 12 ran 5/12 1 9-2 5249A71A Laura Pearson 25/1
23 Jul 21+12d Cork Fermoy Handicap (45-65) (Div 1) 6f · Good To Firm · 12 ran 11/12 nk 9-2 5670A40A J M Sheridan 8/1
11 Jul 21+26d Fairyhouse GAIN The Advantage Series Handicap (45-70) 6f · Good · 18 ran 13/18 ¾ 9-4 5681C63A Joe Doyle 40/1
15 Jun 21+44d Sligo Rosses Point Caravan Park Beautiful Beaches Of Sligo Handicap (45-65) (Div 2) 6f · Yielding · 9 ran 3/9 1¾ 9-6 5686A72A J M Sheridan 9/2
02 May 21+25d Sligo Glasshouse Hotel Handicap (45-65) (Div 1) 6f · Good To Yielding · 14 ran 11/14 ¾ 9-9 6248C45A J M Sheridan 25/1
07 Apr 21+49d Gowran Park Download The BoyleSports App Handicap (45-70) 7f · Soft · 15 ran 14/15 2¼ 9-13 6757C56C Joe Doyle 50/1
17 Feb 21+16d Dundalk (AW) Crowne Plaza Hotel Dundalk Handicap (45-75) (Div 1) 1m2½f · Standard · 13 ran 12/13 21 8-12 6780C44C Katelyn Young 125/1
01 Feb 21+133d Dundalk (AW) Join Us On Instagram At dundalk_stadium Handicap (45-70) 6f · Standard · 12 ran 9/12 7 10-1 6979A55A Joe Doyle 100/1
2020 · 3 runs
21 Sep 20+10d Fairyhouse Sands Of Mali At Ballyhane Fillies Maiden 7f · Good · 16 ran 8/16 2½ 9-2 7385C55A Shane Foley 9/1
11 Sep 20+69d Limerick Garryowen Fillies Maiden 6½f · Soft To Heavy · 12 ran 5/12 ½ 9-2 7486A73A Shane Foley 9/1
04 Jul 20+356d Naas Support Naas Local Businesses Handicap (50-80) 7f · Yielding To Soft · 11 ran 8/11 hd 9-12 7656A73A Shane Foley 16/1
2019 · 3 runs
14 Jul 19+36d Fairyhouse Irish Stallion Farms EBF Fillies Maiden (Plus 10) 6f · Good · 9 ran 8/9 shd 9-0 —58A48A Shane Foley 13/2
08 Jun 19+40d Navan Irish Stallion Farms EBF Fillies Maiden (Plus 10) 5½f · Good To Yielding · 6 ran 2/6 2½ 9-0 —70A79B Shane Foley 7/1
29 Apr 19 Naas Irish Stallion Farms EBF Fillies Maiden 6f · Good To Yielding · 13 ran 7/13 nk 9-0 —87C68A Shane Foley 9/1

Quick answers

How many races has But You Said won?
But You Said (IRE) has yet to win, from 28 archived starts between 2019 and 2023. Placed 4 times in total (14.3% of starts).
Who trained But You Said?
But You Said (IRE) was trained by Sarah Hollinshead on the most recent run on record, at Southwell (AW) on 12 February 2023.
Who is But You Said's sire?
But You Said (IRE) is by No Nay Never (USA) out of San Macchia (GB), whose sire is Rock Of Gibraltar.
What is But You Said's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 43, from the run on 12 February 2023. The highest on record is 76.
What is But You Said's sire's record?
No Nay Never (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,358 runs since Apr 2018 (708 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to soft going: 9.1% from 618. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 185.
Who are But You Said's siblings?
Out of San Macchia (GB), But You Said (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from April 2019. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.