But You Said (IRE)
But You Said is a maiden who won none of 28 starts and placed four times between Apr 2019 and Feb 2023. Her best effort came when second of 11 at Bath in Jun 2022. The mare, by No Nay Never out of a Rock Of Gibraltar mare, raced on both turf and all-weather without success, mainly over 6f to 7f. She finished 14th of 14 at Southwell (AW) in Feb 2023 when last raced off an official rating of 43, 33lb below her highest ever mark.
- 0–28Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 4 (14.3%)Placed
- −28.00£1 level staken=28 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=28 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 76Highest OR
- 36dBetween runs (median)longest 356 d
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 84
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 4 Nov 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 13 | 94A | 80 | — |
| Soft | 5 | 86A | 56 | — |
| Good to Firm | 3 | 86A | 81 | — |
| Good | 3 | 85C | 81 | — |
| Good to Soft | 3 | 87C | 70 | — |
| Heavy | 1 | — | — | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 4 Nov 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 19 | 94A | 75 | — |
| Under 6f | 8 | 91B | 83.5 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 1 | — | — | — |
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 28 figures from 28 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,358 runs since Apr 2018 (708 horses).
Weakest on good to soft going: 9.1% from 618. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 185.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 16 | 5 | 31.3% | +19.2 | — |
| Good to Firm | 927 | 122 | 13.2% | +1.1 | 0 from 3 |
| Good | 1,489 | 181 | 12.2% | +0.1 | 0 from 3 |
| Good to Soft | 618 | 56 | 9.1% | −3 | 0 from 3 |
| Soft | 850 | 110 | 12.9% | +0.8 | 0 from 5 |
| Heavy | 285 | 37 | 13% | +0.9 | 0 from 1 |
| Standard (AW) | 2,173 | 259 | 11.9% | −0.2 | 0 from 13 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 915 | 123 | 13.4% | +1.3 | 0 from 8 |
| 6f – 7f | 3,404 | 443 | 13% | +0.9 | 0 from 19 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1,189 | 131 | 11% | −1.1 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 583 | 54 | 9.3% | −2.8 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 185 | 14 | 7.6% | −4.5 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 77 | 5 | 6.5% | −5.6 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 5 | 0 | 0% | −12.1 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2018 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Buying Time (IRE) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
| Macintosh Lady (IRE) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 13 | 0 | 0% | −13.00 |
| Soft | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Good to Firm | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Good | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Good to Soft | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 6 | 15 | 0 | 0% | −15.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Southwell (AW) | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Fairyhouse | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Catterick | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Bath | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Sligo | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Dundalk (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Naas | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Chelmsford City (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Cork | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Gowran Park | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Limerick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Navan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 19 | 0 | 0% | −19.00 |
| Under 6f | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shane Foley | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| J M Sheridan | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Joe Doyle | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Daniel Muscutt | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| David Probert | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| P J McDonald | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Thomas Greatrex | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tyler Heard | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Gina Mangan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Mr Cameron Hillhouse | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Frederick Larson | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Oliver Stammers | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| William Cox | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tom Marquand | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Laura Pearson | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Katelyn Young | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 25 | 0 | 0% | −25.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Blinkers | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Visor | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2023 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2022 | 11 | 0 | 0% | −11.00 |
| 2021 | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| 2020 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2019 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has But You Said won?
- But You Said (IRE) has yet to win, from 28 archived starts between 2019 and 2023. Placed 4 times in total (14.3% of starts).
- Who trained But You Said?
- But You Said (IRE) was trained by Sarah Hollinshead on the most recent run on record, at Southwell (AW) on 12 February 2023.
- Who is But You Said's sire?
- But You Said (IRE) is by No Nay Never (USA) out of San Macchia (GB), whose sire is Rock Of Gibraltar.
- What is But You Said's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 43, from the run on 12 February 2023. The highest on record is 76.
- What is But You Said's sire's record?
- No Nay Never (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,358 runs since Apr 2018 (708 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to soft going: 9.1% from 618. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 185.
- Who are But You Said's siblings?
- Out of San Macchia (GB), But You Said (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.