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Horse profile

Optimistic Duke (IRE)

5yo gelding (at last run, Jan 2012) · Last trainer Keiran Burke · Last owner Monday Boys Partnership
by Bachelor Duke (USA) out of Gronchi Rosa (IRE) (Nashwan)
20 runs · 16 courses · from Oct 2009
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 31 Jan 2012 — 5,383 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jan 2012 New yard Last raced off OR 95
KTB Profile

Optimistic Duke (IRE) is yet to win from 20 starts, though has placed 4 times. Best effort: 2nd of 9 at Sandown (Nov 2010). Last raced off 95, 13lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 20 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 13lb off peak
Official rating95↓ 13lb off peak
95 52–108

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 84C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Ludlow, 12 May 2011 Official rating 95 at the last jumps run, 31 Jan 2012

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 60A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Brighton, 14 Oct 2010 Official rating 52 at the last flat run, 14 Oct 2010

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 7 figures · best 106B · median 85
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good3106B84—
Good to Firm2100B89.5—
Good to Soft2103A94—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m4103A90.5—
2m1f – 2m4f2106B95.5—
2m5f – 3m1———
Flat 9 figures · best 70A · median 56
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)356C49—
Good270A65—
Good to Firm270A61—
Good to Soft1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f470A57—
1m – 1m1f370A61—
6f – 7f256C52.5—

Of 20 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (4).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 16 figures from 20 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Bachelor Duke (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.8% of 1,605 runs since Jan 2008 (109 horses).

Strongest on good to soft going: 11.2% from 143.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm20315%+7.2—
Good to Firm284207%−0.80 from 6
Good389338.5%+0.70 from 6
Good to Soft1431611.2%+3.40 from 4
Soft256166.3%−1.50 from 1
Heavy122129.8%+2—
Standard (AW)391256.4%−1.40 from 3
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f8733.4%−4.4—
6f – 7f460459.8%+20 from 2
1m – 1m1f394348.6%+0.80 from 3
1m2f – 1m4f259197.3%−0.50 from 4
1m5f – 2m255155.9%−1.90 from 5
2m1f – 2m4f11776%−1.80 from 4
2m5f – 3m3126.5%−1.30 from 2
Over 3m200%−7.8—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Gronchi Rosa (IRE) (Nashwan)

1 sibling in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Cavendish Road (IRE) (5 wins).

The wins came over 7f–1m; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Cavendish Road (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Cavendish Road (IRE)3057f–1mClass 5

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Firm 6 0 0% −6.00
Good 6 0 0% −6.00
Good to Soft 4 0 0% −4.00
Standard (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 8 0 0% −8.00
Class 5 6 0 0% −6.00
Class 6 6 0 0% −6.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Fontwell 3 0 0% −3.00
Worcester 2 0 0% −2.00
Brighton 2 0 0% −2.00
Taunton 1 0 0% −1.00
Stratford 1 0 0% −1.00
Ludlow 1 0 0% −1.00
Plumpton 1 0 0% −1.00
Hereford 1 0 0% −1.00
Sandown 1 0 0% −1.00
Beverley 1 0 0% −1.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Bath 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Lingfield (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 5 0 0% −5.00
2m1f – 2m4f 4 0 0% −4.00
1m2f – 1m4f 4 0 0% −4.00
1m – 1m1f 3 0 0% −3.00
2m5f – 3m 2 0 0% −2.00
6f – 7f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Jimmy McCarthy 5 0 0% −5.00
Hayley Turner 3 0 0% −3.00
Jimmy Derham 2 0 0% −2.00
Johnny Farrelly 1 0 0% −1.00
Harry Skelton 1 0 0% −1.00
Ian Popham 1 0 0% −1.00
Sam Jones 1 0 0% −1.00
Darryll Holland 1 0 0% −1.00
Eddie Ahern 1 0 0% −1.00
David Probert 1 0 0% −1.00
Richard Hughes 1 0 0% −1.00
Martin Dwyer 1 0 0% −1.00
Neil Callan 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 12 0 0% −12.00
Blinkers 3 0 0% −3.00
Cheekpieces 3 0 0% −3.00
Visor 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2012 1 0 0% −1.00
2011 7 0 0% −7.00
2010 9 0 0% −9.00
2009 3 0 0% −3.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 9 0 0% −9.00
Flat 9 0 0% −9.00
Chase 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2012 · 1 run
31 Jan 12+173d Taunton Command And Logistics Company 40 Commando Royal Marines Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 19f · Good To Soft · 14 ran PU/14 — 10-11 95— Johnny Farrelly 28/1
2011 · 7 runs
11 Aug 11+29d Stratford John Smith's Bitter Novices' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 21f · Good To Firm · 9 ran F/9 — 10-11 93— Harry Skelton 20/1
13 Jul 11+28d Worcester Better Win Prices Every Race At coral.co.uk Novices' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 16f · Good To Firm · 6 ran 4/6 2¾ 10-9 9579B Jimmy Derham 5/1
15 Jun 11+6d Worcester Winterfold House School 0-13 Years Novices' Claiming Hurdle Class 5 · 16f · Good · 14 ran 10/14 hd 10-12 10081C Jimmy Derham 22/1
09 Jun 11+28d Fontwell Win Fontwell Annual Membership At 888sport.com/fontwell Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 17.5f · Good To Firm · 11 ran PU/11 — 11-7 104— Ian Popham 20/1
12 May 11+17d Ludlow Cheese Warehouse Ltd Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 21f · Good · 10 ran 6/10 4 10-7 10684C Jimmy McCarthy 14/1
25 Apr 11+18d Plumpton Toteplacepot Juvenile Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Firm · 6 ran 3/6 3½ 10-12 108100B Sam Jones 9/1
07 Apr 11+152d Hereford Play Casino At victorchandler.com Maiden Hurdle (Div 2) Class 5 · 16f · Good · 15 ran PU/15 — 10-8 108— Jimmy McCarthy 22/1
2010 · 9 runs
06 Nov 10+23d Sandown Blue Square Exclusive Live Shows Juvenile Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 2/9 23 10-12 —103A Jimmy McCarthy 50/1
14 Oct 10+12d Brighton Brighton Square 'Heart Of Lanes' Handicap Class 6 · 10f · Good · 14 ran 6/14 1¾ 8-11 5260A Hayley Turner 16/1
02 Oct 10+27d Fontwell Wipro Supporting Wateraid Juvenile Maiden Hurdle Class 5 · 17.5f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 8/9 2½ 10-12 —85C Jimmy McCarthy 3/1
05 Sep 10+40d Fontwell Watch The 888sport Show At 888sport.com Juvenile Hurdle Class 4 · 17.5f · Good · 10 ran 2/10 10 10-12 —106B Jimmy McCarthy 40/1
27 Jul 10+11d Beverley National Festival Circus Selling Handicap Class 6 · 12f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 8/10 1¾ 9-5 5452A Darryll Holland 11/2
16 Jul 10+18d Nottingham nottinghamracecourse.co.uk Selling Stakes Class 6 · 10f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 2/7 6 8-9 5454A Eddie Ahern 6/4F
28 Jun 10+13d Wolverhampton (AW) Back & Lay At Betdaq Handicap (Div 2) Class 6 · 8.5f · Standard · 10 ran 8/10 ¾ 8-11 5548A Hayley Turner 5/1
15 Jun 10+42d Brighton Bob Champion 60:60 Challenge Handicap Class 6 · 10f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 4/10 3 8-12 5670A David Probert 8/1
04 May 10+174d Bath Bath Abbey Handicap (Div 2) Class 6 · 8f · Good · 16 ran 4/16 ¾ 9-1 5770A Richard Hughes 28/1
2009 · 3 runs
11 Nov 09+18d Kempton (AW) Digibet Median Auction Maiden Stakes (Div 1) Class 5 · 7f · Standard · 14 ran 14/14 24 9-3 —56C Martin Dwyer 66/1
24 Oct 09+15d Newbury Hildon E.B.F. Maiden Stakes (Str) (Div 2) Class 4 · 8f · Soft · 13 ran 11/13 nk 9-3 —61A Hayley Turner 66/1
09 Oct 09 Lingfield (AW) Crowhurst Maiden Stakes (Div 1) Class 4 · 7f · Standard To Slow · 13 ran 12/13 6 9-3 —49C Neil Callan 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Optimistic Duke won?
Optimistic Duke (IRE) has yet to win, from 20 archived starts between 2009 and 2012. Placed 4 times in total (20% of starts).
Who trained Optimistic Duke?
Optimistic Duke (IRE) was trained by Keiran Burke on the most recent run on record, at Taunton on 31 January 2012.
Who is Optimistic Duke's sire?
Optimistic Duke (IRE) is by Bachelor Duke (USA) out of Gronchi Rosa (IRE), whose sire is Nashwan.
What is Optimistic Duke's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 95, from the run on 31 January 2012. The highest on record is 108.
What is Optimistic Duke's sire's record?
Bachelor Duke (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.8% of 1,605 runs since Jan 2008 (109 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to soft going: 11.2% from 143.
Who are Optimistic Duke's siblings?
Out of Gronchi Rosa (IRE), Optimistic Duke (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Cavendish Road (IRE) (5). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Cavendish Road (IRE)). The wins came over 7f–1m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2009. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.