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Horse profile

Prim And Proper (GB)

5yo mare (at last run, Dec 2016) · Last trainer John Flint · Last owner Mr Mrs A J Mutch
by Sleeping Indian (GB) out of Quite Fantastic (IRE) (Fantastic Light)
38 runs · 13 courses · from Aug 2013
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 28 Dec 2016 — 3,591 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Dec 2016 · 9th of 14 4 wins · Chepstow, Salisbury & Kempton (AW) Last raced off OR 58
KTB Profile

Prim And Proper (GB) is 4 from 38. Hasn't won since Aug 2016. All 4 wins have come over 1m – 1m1f. Last raced off 58, 9lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 38 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 9lb off peak
Official rating58↓ 9lb off peak
58 52–67

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 83 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Kempton (AW), 30 Nov 2016

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 6 figures · best 88B · median 82
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)688B82—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
6f – 7f488B82—
1m – 1m1f285A72—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 6 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 72A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Lingfield (AW), 7 Dec 2016 Official rating 58 at the last flat run, 28 Dec 2016

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 71C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Cartmel, 25 Aug 2014

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 36 figures · best 87B · median 61.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)1581A61—
Good to Firm987B69—
Good672A50.5—
Firm378A69—
Soft278A68.5—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f2087B64—
6f – 7f1181A58—
1m2f – 1m4f472A60.5—
Under 6f1———
Jumps 2 figures · best 71C · median 68.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good to Firm1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m1———
2m1f – 2m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 38 figures from 38 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 8.9% of 3,714 runs since Jan 2008 (238 horses).

Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 0.9% from 108.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm491122.4%+13.50 from 3
Good to Firm643629.6%+0.73 from 10
Good735587.9%−10 from 7
Good to Soft371267%−1.90 from 1
Soft374277.2%−1.70 from 2
Heavy7945.1%−3.8—
Standard (AW)1,4631429.7%+0.81 from 15
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f7288311.4%+2.50 from 1
6f – 7f1,9311698.8%−0.10 from 11
1m – 1m1f630579%+0.14 from 20
1m2f – 1m4f253197.5%−1.40 from 4
1m5f – 2m10810.9%−80 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f4000%−8.90 from 1
2m5f – 3m2114.8%−4.1—
Over 3m300%−8.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Quite Fantastic (IRE) (Fantastic Light)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Fantastic Indian (GB)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 15 1 7% −9.50
Good to Firm 10 3 30% +13.00
Good 7 0 0% −7.00
Firm 3 0 0% −3.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 22 3 14% +0.50
Class 5 11 1 9% −5.00
Class 4 5 0 0% −5.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Kempton (AW) 11 1 9% −5.50
Chepstow 8 2 25% +7.00
Bath 5 0 0% −5.00
Lingfield (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Salisbury 2 1 50% +6.00
Newbury 2 0 0% −2.00
Lingfield 1 0 0% −1.00
Epsom Downs 1 0 0% −1.00
Plumpton 1 0 0% −1.00
Cartmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Brighton 1 0 0% −1.00
Warwick 1 0 0% −1.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m – 1m1f 20 4 20% +8.50
6f – 7f 11 0 0% −11.00
1m2f – 1m4f 4 0 0% −4.00
1m5f – 2m 1 0 0% −1.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00
Under 6f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Daniel Muscutt 9 1 11% +0.00
Robert Havlin 4 1 25% +2.00
Jenny Powell 4 1 25% +4.00
Robert Winston 3 0 0% −3.00
Josh Quinn 2 0 0% −2.00
Richard Kingscote 2 1 50% +3.50
Brendan Powell 2 0 0% −2.00
Seb Sanders 2 0 0% −2.00
Ryan Tate 2 0 0% −2.00
Kieren Fallon 2 0 0% −2.00
Paddy Bradley 1 0 0% −1.00
Noel Garbutt 1 0 0% −1.00
Kieran Shoemark 1 0 0% −1.00
Martin Dwyer 1 0 0% −1.00
Jim Crowley 1 0 0% −1.00
Graham Lee 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 24 3 13% −4.50
Blinkers 8 1 13% +1.00
Cheekpieces 6 0 0% −6.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2016 11 1 9% −2.00
2015 9 1 11% −3.00
2014 13 2 15% +0.50
2013 5 0 0% −5.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 36 4 11% −7.50
Hurdle 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2016 · 11 runs
28 Dec 16+21d Lingfield (AW) sunbets.co.uk Download The App Handicap Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 14 ran 9/14 1¼ 9-0 5872B55A Daniel Muscutt 25/1
07 Dec 16+7d Lingfield (AW) sunbets.co.uk Selling Stakes Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 10 ran 6/10 ½ 8-13 5881A72A Daniel Muscutt 20/1
30 Nov 16+29d Kempton (AW) Big Dave Handicap Class 6 · 7f · Standard To Slow · 13 ran 7/13 nk 9-5 5983B70A Daniel Muscutt 25/1
01 Nov 16+6d Kempton (AW) Racetech Celebrates 70yrs Serving Horse Racing Handicap (Div 1) Class 6 · 8f · Standard To Slow · 7 ran 6/7 6 9-4 6259A47A Daniel Muscutt 8/1
26 Oct 16+28d Kempton (AW) 32Red Casino Handicap (Div 2) Class 5 · 8f · Standard To Slow · 7 ran 5/7 1½ 8-13 6285A61A Daniel Muscutt 5/1
28 Sep 16+28d Kempton (AW) Racing UK Profits Returned To Racing Handicap Class 6 · 7f · Standard To Slow · 14 ran 4/14 ¾ 9-3 6288B81A Daniel Muscutt 16/1
31 Aug 16+22d Bath Simon 'the Daddy' At 60 Handicap Class 5 · 8f · Firm · 9 ran 7/9 1½ 8-13 62—57A Daniel Muscutt 14/1
09 Aug 16+10d Chepstow Diamond Racing Handicap Class 6 · 8f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 1/7 9-4 58—80A Daniel Muscutt 8/1
30 Jul 16+16d Lingfield Mobile Betting At 188bet Apprentice Handicap Class 6 · 7.5f · Good To Firm · 6 ran 6/6 2½ 9-6 60—48B Paddy Bradley 7/1
14 Jul 16+16d Chepstow Glamorgan Federation Women's Institute Handicap Class 5 · 8f · Good To Firm · 11 ran 10/11 3¼ 9-0 64—47A Noel Garbutt 25/1
28 Jun 16+292d Chepstow All Weather Riding Surfaces From Equestrian Surfaces Handicap Class 6 · 10f · Soft · 10 ran 10/10 1¾ 9-4 65—59C Daniel Muscutt 8/1
2015 · 9 runs
10 Sep 15+41d Chepstow Truvape Handicap Class 5 · 8f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 5/10 nk 8-10 66—75A Kieran Shoemark 15/2
31 Jul 15+15d Bath 'Cookie's Mid-Life Crisis (CAC) Celebration' Fillies' Handicap Class 4 · 8f · Good To Firm · 5 ran 4/5 nk 9-1 67—56B Martin Dwyer 13/2
16 Jul 15+7d Chepstow thebookiesoffers.co.uk For The Best Betting Offers Handicap Class 5 · 8f · Good To Firm · 5 ran 2/5 shd 9-5 66—69B Robert Havlin 3/1C
09 Jul 15+17d Epsom Downs Totepool Racing's Biggest Supporter Handicap Class 4 · 8.5f · Good · 6 ran 4/6 hd 8-10 66—69B Robert Havlin 7/2
22 Jun 15+10d Chepstow Truvape Handicap Class 5 · 10f · Good · 9 ran 2/9 3 8-12 66—72A Robert Havlin 8/1
12 Jun 15+13d Chepstow Ted Hopkins Ltd Supporting Prostate Cymru Fillies' Handicap Class 5 · 8f · Good To Firm · 6 ran 1/6 8-9 58—87B Robert Havlin 5/1
30 May 15+16d Chepstow Truvape Handicap Class 5 · 10f · Good · 9 ran 9/9 2½ 8-2 58—43A Josh Quinn 7/1
14 May 15+21d Salisbury CGA Racing Excellence Apprentice Handicap (Whips Shall Be Carried But Not Used) Class 5 · 7f · Soft · 12 ran 2/12 3½ 8-4 58—78A Josh Quinn 14/1
23 Apr 15+175d Bath Geosystems Handicap Class 6 · 8f · Firm · 7 ran 2/7 5 9-0 58—69A Richard Kingscote 10/1
2014 · 13 runs
30 Oct 14+9d Lingfield (AW) Download The Ladbrokes App Apprentice Handicap Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 12 ran 6/12 1¾ 8-10 59—58A Jenny Powell 25/1
21 Oct 14+30d Kempton (AW) rewards4racing.com Handicap (Div 2) Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 12 ran 6/12 3 8-12 59—66A Jenny Powell 8/1
21 Sep 14+27d Plumpton Award Winning Extech It Juvenile Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Firm · 12 ran 9/12 6 10-5 ——66C Brendan Powell 20/1
25 Aug 14+17d Cartmel Wicks Waste Services Juvenile Hurdle Class 4 · 17f · Good · 11 ran 8/11 15 10-5 ——71C Brendan Powell 12/1
08 Aug 14+45d Brighton Redwood Park School, Cosham Handicap Class 6 · 10f · Good To Firm · 5 ran 2/5 2½ 9-7 59—62B Jim Crowley 2/1F
24 Jun 14+9d Newbury Jung Pumpen & Pump Technology Handicap (Rnd) Class 5 · 8f · Good · 10 ran 8/10 1 8-3 57—42A Jenny Powell 15/2
15 Jun 14+17d Salisbury Goldring Security Services 'Hands And Heels' Apprentice Series Handicap (Part Of The Racing Excellence Initiative) Class 6 · 8f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 1/9 9-2 57—82A Jenny Powell 7/1
29 May 14+9d Bath 32RedPoker.com Handicap (Div 2) Class 6 · 8f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 7/10 nk 8-11 54—35C Seb Sanders 9/4F
20 May 14+13d Bath 32red On The App Store Handicap Class 6 · 8f · Firm · 15 ran 3/15 nk 9-2 54—78A Robert Winston 8/1
07 May 14+13d Kempton (AW) Next Fixture Here On 21.05.13 Handicap Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 12 ran 4/12 3¾ 9-2 55—58A Seb Sanders 12/1
24 Apr 14+15d Warwick George And Irene Ruby Anniversary Handicap (Div 1) Class 6 · 8f · Good · 10 ran 5/10 2¼ 9-2 55—58A Robert Winston 5/1
09 Apr 14+14d Kempton (AW) Betdaq - The Sports Betting Exchange Handicap Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 9 ran 1/9 8-13 52—70A Richard Kingscote 9/2
26 Mar 14+133d Kempton (AW) New Jump Fixture On 05.05.14 Handicap Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 9 ran 6/9 nk 8-10 54—58A Robert Winston 33/1
2013 · 5 runs
13 Nov 13+28d Kempton (AW) Betdaq 1st UK Race Commission Free Nursery Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 14 ran 6/14 1½ 9-3 56—62A Graham Lee 12/1
16 Oct 13+26d Kempton (AW) Book Your Christmas Party On 01932 753518 Nursery Class 6 · 5f · Standard · 11 ran 8/11 ½ 9-2 60—47A Ryan Tate 7/1
20 Sep 13+16d Wolverhampton (AW) Uncle Bob's Median Auction Maiden Fillies' Stakes Class 6 · 6f · Standard To Slow · 11 ran 8/11 hd 9-0 ——50A Kieren Fallon 10/1
04 Sep 13+18d Kempton (AW) 200 Free Bets At Betdaq/British Stallion Studs E.B.F. Maiden Fillies' Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Standard · 11 ran 7/11 1 9-0 ——64A Kieren Fallon 33/1
17 Aug 13 Newbury Betfred Better Odds On Goals Galore E.b.f. Maiden Fillies' Stakes Class 4 · 6f · Good · 14 ran 11/14 nk 8-9 ——38A Ryan Tate 100/1

Quick answers

How many races has Prim And Proper won?
Prim And Proper (GB) won 4 of 38 archived starts between 2013 and 2016, a strike rate of 10.5%. Placed 10 times in total (26.3% of starts).
Who trained Prim And Proper?
Prim And Proper (GB) was trained by John Flint on the most recent run on record, at Lingfield (AW) on 28 December 2016.
Who is Prim And Proper's sire?
Prim And Proper (GB) is by Sleeping Indian (GB) out of Quite Fantastic (IRE), whose sire is Fantastic Light.
What going does Prim And Proper prefer?
Prim And Proper (GB) has the best record on good to firm going: 3 wins from 10 starts (30%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Prim And Proper's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 58, from the run on 28 December 2016. The highest on record is 67.
What is Prim And Proper's sire's record?
Sleeping Indian (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.9% of 3,714 runs since Jan 2008 (238 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 0.9% from 108.
Who are Prim And Proper's siblings?
Out of Quite Fantastic (IRE), Prim And Proper (GB) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from August 2013. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.