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Welsh Dancer (GB)

6yo gelding (at last run, Oct 2014) · Last trainer John Butler · Last owner David Gwyn Joseph
by Dubawi (IRE) out of Rosie's Posy (IRE) (Suave Dancer)
18 runs · 10 courses · from May 2010
As at 15 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 22 Oct 2014 — 4,375 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2014 · 11th of 11 New yard Last raced off OR 47
KTB Profile

Welsh Dancer (GB) is yet to win from 18 starts, though has placed twice. Best effort: 2nd of 11 at Wolverhampton (AW) (Nov 2011). Last raced off 47, 35lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 18 archived runs · updated 15 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 35lb off peak
Official rating47↓ 35lb off peak
47 45–82

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 51A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Kempton (AW), 11 Jan 2012 Official rating 47 at the last run, 22 Oct 2014

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Flat 18 figures · best 82A · median 51.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 15 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)967A50—
Good482A55—
Good to Firm355A52—
Heavy1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 15 Oct 2025
6f – 7f1277A51.5—
Under 6f382A59—
1m – 1m1f248C45.5—
1m2f – 1m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 18 figures from 18 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 18.4% of 12,918 runs since Jan 2008 (1,517 horses).

Weakest at trips under 6f (all codes): 9.8% from 429.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm481122.9%+4.5—
Good to Firm2,32347720.5%+2.10 from 3
Good3,15856117.8%−0.60 from 4
Good to Soft1,73930917.8%−0.6—
Soft1,89932617.2%−1.20 from 1
Heavy58710217.4%−10 from 1
Standard (AW)3,16258518.5%+0.10 from 9
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f429429.8%−8.60 from 3
6f – 7f3,11457918.6%+0.20 from 12
1m – 1m1f3,84372418.8%+0.40 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f3,82876820.1%+1.70 from 1
1m5f – 2m1,20518815.6%−2.8—
2m1f – 2m4f3294714.3%−4.1—
2m5f – 3m1381913.8%−4.6—
Over 3m32618.8%+0.4—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Rosie's Posy (IRE) (Suave Dancer)

6 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Make Believe (GB) (4 wins).

The wins came over 6f–1m2½f; the highest grade won is Group 1 (Make Believe (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Make Believe (GB)647f–1mGroup 1
Generous Thought (GB)836f–1mClass 2
San Remo (IRE)911m2½f—
Estikmaal (IRE)411m1f—
Dubawi Heights (GB)60——
Hazy Days (GB)170——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 9 0 0% −9.00
Good 4 0 0% −4.00
Good to Firm 3 0 0% −3.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 6 0 0% −6.00
Class 5 5 0 0% −5.00
Class 2 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 7 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Kempton (AW) 4 0 0% −4.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 4 0 0% −4.00
Newbury 2 0 0% −2.00
Goodwood 2 0 0% −2.00
Southwell (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Ffos Las 1 0 0% −1.00
Bath 1 0 0% −1.00
Newmarket 1 0 0% −1.00
Haydock 1 0 0% −1.00
Ascot 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 12 0 0% −12.00
Under 6f 3 0 0% −3.00
1m – 1m1f 2 0 0% −2.00
1m2f – 1m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Luke Morris 6 0 0% −6.00
Ryan Moore 3 0 0% −3.00
William Carson 2 0 0% −2.00
Adam Kirby 1 0 0% −1.00
Tadhg O'Shea 1 0 0% −1.00
Pat Dobbs 1 0 0% −1.00
Martin Dwyer 1 0 0% −1.00
Frankie McDonald 1 0 0% −1.00
Richard Hughes 1 0 0% −1.00
Dane O'Neill 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 13 0 0% −13.00
Cheekpieces 2 0 0% −2.00
Visor 2 0 0% −2.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2014 1 0 0% −1.00
2012 2 0 0% −2.00
2011 9 0 0% −9.00
2010 6 0 0% −6.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
22 Oct 14+1007d Kempton (AW) Razor Ruddock Racing Club Classified Stakes Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 11 ran 11/11 45 9-7 4736C Adam Kirby 5/1
19 Jan 12+8d Wolverhampton (AW) Play Rainbow Riches At Bluesq.com Handicap Class 7 · 7f · Standard · 10 ran 10/10 10 9-3 5032C Luke Morris 7/1
11 Jan 12+15d Kempton (AW) skysports.com Racing Handicap Class 7 · 7f · Standard · 13 ran 12/13 1¾ 9-3 5051A Luke Morris 16/1
27 Dec 11+11d Southwell (AW) Co-operative Motor Group, Mansfield Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Standard · 8 ran 5/8 shd 9-3 5150A Luke Morris 6/1
16 Dec 11+20d Wolverhampton (AW) Enjoy The Party Pack Group Offer Handicap Class 6 · 5f · Standard · 10 ran 5/10 1¾ 9-2 5259A Luke Morris 9/2
26 Nov 11+8d Wolverhampton (AW) Dine In Horizons Restaurant Handicap (Div 1) Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 8 ran 4/8 1 8-12 5267A Luke Morris 11/2
18 Nov 11+14d Wolverhampton (AW) 32 Free At 32Red.com Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Standard · 11 ran 2/11 4½ 9-3 5566A William Carson 15/2
04 Nov 11+19d Ffos Las Six In Six Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Heavy · 9 ran 2/9 3¼ 9-3 4577A Luke Morris 20/1
16 Oct 11+61d Bath toteplacepot Handicap Class 6 · 5.5f · Good · 17 ran 9/17 ½ 8-7 4755A William Carson 50/1
16 Aug 11+13d Kempton (AW) 32RedPoker.com Handicap Class 6 · 12f · Standard · 8 ran 8/8 97 8-6 5341C Tadhg O'Shea 16/1
03 Aug 11+12d Kempton (AW) Olly Murs 12.08.11 Handicap Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 13 ran 8/13 3¾ 8-13 5743A Pat Dobbs 12/1
22 Jul 11+288d Newmarket Newmarketexperience.co.uk Handicap Class 5 · 8f · Good · 14 ran 14/14 21 8-8 6248C Martin Dwyer 20/1
07 Oct 10+15d Newbury Sir Gerald Whent Memorial Nursery (Str) Class 2 · 7f · Soft · 11 ran 11/11 11 8-2 7042C Frankie McDonald 50/1
22 Sep 10+18d Goodwood Electrolux Professional E.b.f. Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 7f · Good To Firm · 11 ran 9/11 1 9-3 7055A Ryan Moore 16/1
04 Sep 10+39d Haydock Betfred '10 Best Odds Races Daily' Nursery Class 2 · 6f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 12/13 1½ 9-1 8249C Ryan Moore 16/1
27 Jul 10+47d Goodwood E.B.F. Dallaglio Foundation Maiden Stakes (In Support Of Tickets For Troops) Class 2 · 6f · Good · 10 ran 9/10 ½ 9-0 8255A Ryan Moore 8/1
10 Jun 10+33d Newbury 7 Bedford Row Barristers Chambers Maiden Stakes Class 4 · 6.5f · Good To Firm · 14 ran 14/14 9 9-0 —52C Richard Hughes 15/8
08 May 10 Ascot Mcgee Group Maiden Stakes Class 3 · 5f · Good · 11 ran 4/11 nk 9-3 —82A Dane O'Neill 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Welsh Dancer (GB) won?
Welsh Dancer (GB) has yet to win, from 18 archived starts between 2010 and 2014. Placed 2 times in total (11.1% of starts).
Who trained Welsh Dancer (GB)?
Welsh Dancer (GB) was trained by John Butler on the most recent run on record, at Kempton (AW) on 22 October 2014.
Who is Welsh Dancer (GB)'s sire?
Welsh Dancer (GB) is by Dubawi (IRE) out of Rosie's Posy (IRE), whose sire is Suave Dancer.
What is Welsh Dancer (GB)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 47, from the run on 22 October 2014. The highest on record is 82.
What is Welsh Dancer (GB)'s sire's record?
Dubawi (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 18.4% of 12,918 runs since Jan 2008 (1,517 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest at trips under 6f (all codes): 9.8% from 429.
Who are Welsh Dancer (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Rosie's Posy (IRE), Welsh Dancer (GB) has 6 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Make Believe (GB) (4). Highest grade won: Group 1 (Make Believe (GB)). The wins came over 6f–1m2½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2010. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.