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Horse profile

These Dreams (GB)

3yo filly (at last run, Sep 2011) · Last trainer Richard Guest · Last owner Eerc
by Sleeping Indian (GB) out of White Turf (GER) (Tiger Hill)
18 runs · 11 courses · from Nov 2010
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 17 Sep 2011 — 5,520 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2011 · 4th of 10 Last raced off OR 48
KTB Profile

These Dreams (GB) is yet to win from 18 starts, though has placed twice. Best effort: 2nd of 7 at Southwell (AW) (Jun 2011).

Based on 18 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
Official rating48↓ 5lb off peak
48 45–53

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 49A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Wolverhampton (AW), 17 Sep 2011 Official rating 48 at the last run, 17 Sep 2011

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 18 figures · best 72A · median 51
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)972A49—
Good362A60—
Good to Soft253B51—
Good to Firm256A55—
Soft263A49.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Under 6f1172A54—
6f – 7f753A49—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 18 figures from 18 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 8.9% of 3,714 runs since Jan 2008 (238 horses).

Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 0.9% from 108.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm491122.4%+13.5—
Good to Firm643629.6%+0.70 from 2
Good735587.9%−10 from 3
Good to Soft371267%−1.90 from 2
Soft374277.2%−1.70 from 2
Heavy7945.1%−3.8—
Standard (AW)1,4631429.7%+0.80 from 9
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f7288311.4%+2.50 from 11
6f – 7f1,9311698.8%−0.10 from 7
1m – 1m1f630579%+0.1—
1m2f – 1m4f253197.5%−1.4—
1m5f – 2m10810.9%−8—
2m1f – 2m4f4000%−8.9—
2m5f – 3m2114.8%−4.1—
Over 3m300%−8.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
White Turf (GER) (Tiger Hill)

4 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Winter Hill (GB) (1 win).

The wins came over 5f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Winter Hill (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Winter Hill (GB)1015fClass 5
Weisse Girl (GB)90——
Raze Aqlaam (GB)40——
Dominae (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 9 0 0% −9.00
Good 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 13 0 0% −13.00
Class 5 5 0 0% −5.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Southwell (AW) 4 0 0% −4.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Musselburgh 2 0 0% −2.00
Lingfield (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Yarmouth 1 0 0% −1.00
Pontefract 1 0 0% −1.00
Redcar 1 0 0% −1.00
Thirsk 1 0 0% −1.00
Ayr 1 0 0% −1.00
Newcastle 1 0 0% −1.00
Catterick 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
Under 6f 11 0 0% −11.00
6f – 7f 7 0 0% −7.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Martin Harley 2 0 0% −2.00
Andrew Mullen 2 0 0% −2.00
Andrew Heffernan 2 0 0% −2.00
Franny Norton 2 0 0% −2.00
Neil Chalmers 1 0 0% −1.00
Graham Gibbons 1 0 0% −1.00
Royston Ffrench 1 0 0% −1.00
Duran Fentiman 1 0 0% −1.00
Robert L Butler 1 0 0% −1.00
Declan Cannon 1 0 0% −1.00
Silvestre De Sousa 1 0 0% −1.00
Paul Hanagan 1 0 0% −1.00
Chris Catlin 1 0 0% −1.00
Ross Atkinson 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 16 0 0% −16.00
Visor 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2011 15 0 0% −15.00
2010 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2011 · 15 runs
17 Sep 11+30d Wolverhampton (AW) Great Offers At wolverhampton-racecourse.co.uk Handicap (Div 2) Class 6 · 5f · Standard · 10 ran 4/10 2¼ 8-9 4849A Neil Chalmers 14/1
18 Aug 11+24d Southwell (AW) Dine In The Pantry Handicap Class 6 · 5f · Standard · 9 ran 9/9 3¼ 8-8 509C Martin Harley 14/1
25 Jul 11+6d Yarmouth Digibet.com Handicap Class 6 · 5f · Good · 9 ran 8/9 2 8-5 5129A Martin Harley 7/1
19 Jul 11+14d Musselburgh Scottish Racing Handicap Class 6 · 5f · Good To Soft · 6 ran 3/6 hd 8-9 5153B Graham Gibbons 7/2
05 Jul 11+7d Pontefract Jeff And Margaret Smith Memorial Handicap Class 5 · 5f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 5/10 1¾ 8-2 5156A Andrew Mullen 12/1
28 Jun 11+10d Southwell (AW) Play Roulette At Ladbrokes.com Median Auction Maiden Stakes Class 6 · 5f · Standard · 7 ran 2/7 2½ 8-6 5172A Royston Ffrench 8/1
18 Jun 11+4d Redcar Win A VIP Day Out At redcarracing.co.uk Handicap Class 6 · 5f · Soft · 9 ran 3/9 ½ 8-11 5063A Duran Fentiman 4/1
14 Jun 11+20d Thirsk Stoneacre Ford Handicap Class 6 · 5f · Good · 17 ran 6/17 1 8-6 5060A Andrew Mullen 11/1
25 May 11+5d Ayr Chamber Health Plan Handicap Class 6 · 6f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 10/14 shd 8-10 5249A Robert L Butler 15/2
20 May 11+7d Musselburgh Weir Property Management Handicap (Qualifier For The Betfair Bonus Scottish Racing Sprint Final) Class 6 · 5f · Good · 13 ran 5/13 ¾ 8-7 5262A Declan Cannon 12/1
13 May 11+52d Newcastle Freebetting.co.uk Fillies' Handicap Class 5 · 5f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 5/9 1¾ 8-3 5254A Silvestre De Sousa 25/1
22 Mar 11+19d Southwell (AW) ladbrokes.com Handicap Class 5 · 6f · Standard · 7 ran 3/7 3¼ 8-8 5353A Paul Hanagan 11/1
03 Mar 11+8d Wolverhampton (AW) atrpokerclub.com Handicap Class 6 · 6f · Standard · 12 ran 4/12 1¼ 7-13 4553A Andrew Heffernan 8/1
23 Feb 11+27d Lingfield (AW) Play Megajackpots Cleopatra At bluesq.com Handicap Class 5 · 6f · Standard · 5 ran 3/5 ¾ 7-13 4549B Andrew Heffernan 33/1
27 Jan 11+41d Southwell (AW) Southwell-racecourse.co.uk Handicap Class 6 · 6f · Standard · 7 ran 4/7 3 8-7 4543A Chris Catlin 25/1
2010 · 3 runs
17 Dec 10+27d Wolverhampton (AW) Bigger Wins With SP+ At totesport.com Median Auction Maiden Fillies' Stakes Class 6 · 6f · Standard To Slow · 8 ran 6/8 1½ 8-11 —20C Ross Atkinson 20/1
20 Nov 10+18d Lingfield (AW) E.B.F. Ladbrokes South Champions Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 5f · Standard · 9 ran 6/9 3½ 8-12 —45A Franny Norton 50/1
02 Nov 10 Catterick yorkshire4x4.com Adventure Activities Maiden Auction Stakes Class 6 · 6f · Soft · 11 ran 5/11 ½ 8-4 —36A Franny Norton 10/1

Quick answers

How many races has These Dreams won?
These Dreams (GB) has yet to win, from 18 archived starts between 2010 and 2011. Placed 2 times in total (11.1% of starts).
Who trained These Dreams?
These Dreams (GB) was trained by Richard Guest on the most recent run on record, at Wolverhampton (AW) on 17 September 2011.
Who is These Dreams's sire?
These Dreams (GB) is by Sleeping Indian (GB) out of White Turf (GER), whose sire is Tiger Hill.
What is These Dreams's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 48, from the run on 17 September 2011. The highest on record is 53.
What is These Dreams's sire's record?
Sleeping Indian (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.9% of 3,714 runs since Jan 2008 (238 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 0.9% from 108.
Who are These Dreams's siblings?
Out of White Turf (GER), These Dreams (GB) has 4 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Winter Hill (GB) (1). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Winter Hill (GB)). The wins came over 5f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from November 2010. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.