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Horse profile

Ice And Fire (GB)

13yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2012) · Last trainer John Stimpson · Last owner J T Stimpson
by Cadeaux Genereux (GB) out of Tanz (IRE) (Sadler's Wells)
44 runs · 11 courses · from Jan 2005
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 27 Mar 2012 — 5,327 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2012 · 5th of 6 5 wins · Lingfield (AW), Southwell (AW) & Wolverhampton (AW) Headgear returns LTO Last raced off OR 45
KTB Profile

Ice And Fire (GB) is 5 from 44. Hasn't won since Dec 2007. All 5 wins have come on the all-weather — 0 from 14 on turf. All 5 wins have come over 1m5f – 2m. Last raced off 45, 43lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 44 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance All wins on AW OR ↓ 43lb off peak
Official rating45↓ 43lb off peak
45 40–88

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 49C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Southwell (AW), 26 Mar 2009 Official rating 45 at the last flat run, 27 Mar 2012

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 99C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Worcester, 22 Jun 2005 Official rating 78 at the last jumps run, 25 May 2009

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 34 figures · best 64C · median 48
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)3061C48—
Good464C46—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m2961C48—
1m2f – 1m4f564C48—
Jumps 5 figures · best 99C · median 86
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good to Firm399C86—
Good286C72—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m599C86—

Of 44 runs looked at, 5 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (5).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 39 figures from 44 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Cadeaux Genereux (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 2,919 runs since Jan 2008 (203 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3013.3%−6.8—
Good to Firm5495610.2%+0.10 from 5
Good636589.1%−10 from 8
Good to Soft2963511.8%+1.7—
Soft3634111.3%+1.20 from 1
Heavy9399.7%−0.4—
Standard (AW)9529610.1%05 from 30
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f3203310.3%+0.2—
6f – 7f1,2491219.7%−0.4—
1m – 1m1f5616611.8%+1.7—
1m2f – 1m4f3894110.5%+0.40 from 5
1m5f – 2m192147.3%−2.85 from 37
2m1f – 2m4f1471711.6%+1.50 from 1
2m5f – 3m4636.5%−3.60 from 1
Over 3m1516.7%−3.4—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Tanz (IRE) (Sadler's Wells)

6 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Moon Sister (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 1m1½f–1m4½f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Moon Sister (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Moon Sister (IRE)1421m1½f–1m3fClass 3
Ball Boy (GB)1111m4fClass 4
Cartama (GB)211m4½f—
Tarxien (GB)40——
Kenny's Girl (IRE)110——
King Youmzain (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 30 5 17% +141.00
Good 8 0 0% −8.00
Good to Firm 5 0 0% −5.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 16 2 13% +31.00
Class 7 13 3 23% +111.00
Class 5 8 0 0% −8.00
Class 4 7 0 0% −7.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Wolverhampton (AW) 15 2 13% +32.00
Southwell (AW) 14 2 14% +76.00
Worcester 4 0 0% −4.00
Uttoxeter 3 0 0% −3.00
Catterick 2 0 0% −2.00
Cartmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Yarmouth 1 0 0% −1.00
Lingfield (AW) 1 1 100% +33.00
Market Rasen 1 0 0% −1.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00
Huntingdon 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 37 5 14% +134.00
1m2f – 1m4f 5 0 0% −5.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Micky Fenton 10 1 10% +71.00
Ashley Hamblett 10 3 30% +46.00
Robert Thornton 3 0 0% −3.00
Christian Williams 3 0 0% −3.00
Frankie McDonald 2 0 0% −2.00
Mr S Dobson 2 1 50% +32.00
Noel Garbutt 1 0 0% −1.00
Dave Crosse 1 0 0% −1.00
Mattie Batchelor 1 0 0% −1.00
Jerry O'Dwyer 1 0 0% −1.00
Shane Kelly 1 0 0% −1.00
Joseph Walsh 1 0 0% −1.00
Jemma Marshall 1 0 0% −1.00
Jason Edmunds 1 0 0% −1.00
Robbie Fitzpatrick 1 0 0% −1.00
Adam Kirby 1 0 0% −1.00
Adrian Nicholls 1 0 0% −1.00
Chris Catlin 1 0 0% −1.00
Liam Treadwell 1 0 0% −1.00
Lee Vickers 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Blinkers 30 5 17% +141.00
None 9 0 0% −9.00
Visor 3 0 0% −3.00
Tongue tie 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2012 1 0 0% −1.00
2009 3 0 0% −3.00
2008 2 0 0% −2.00
2007 7 1 14% +27.00
2006 17 3 18% +39.00
2005 14 1 7% +67.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 34 5 15% +137.00
Hurdle 8 0 0% −8.00
Chase 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2012 · 1 run
27 Mar 12+1037d Southwell (AW) Great Offers At Southwell-racecourse.co.uk Handicap Class 6 · 16.5f · Standard · 6 ran 5/6 26 8-0 4541C Noel Garbutt 66/1
2009 · 3 runs
25 May 09+41d Cartmel Totepool Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 22f · Good · 12 ran PU/12 — 10-11 78— Dave Crosse 40/1
14 Apr 09+19d Yarmouth Freebets.co.uk Free Betting Handicap Class 5 · 16f · Good · 9 ran 7/9 2¾ 8-6 4548A Frankie McDonald 40/1
26 Mar 09+427d Southwell (AW) Book Tickets On Line At Southwell-racecourse.co.uk Handicap Class 5 · 16.5f · Standard · 6 ran 5/6 1½ 8-7 4549C Frankie McDonald 40/1
2008 · 2 runs
24 Jan 08+20d Southwell (AW) southwell-racecourse.co.uk Handicap Class 6 · 16.5f · Standard · 10 ran 4/10 ½ 9-0 4652C Micky Fenton 10/1
04 Jan 08+27d Southwell (AW) southwell-racecourse.co.uk Amateur Riders' Handicap (Div 1) Class 6 · 16.5f · Standard · 10 ran 4/10 7 10-10 4857A Mr S Dobson 9/2
2007 · 7 runs
08 Dec 07+4d Wolverhampton (AW) pontins.com Handicap Class 6 · 16.5f · Standard · 12 ran 7/12 1¼ 9-0 4554C Micky Fenton 16/1
04 Dec 07+18d Lingfield (AW) Jumping Here On December 15th Amateur Riders' Handicap Class 6 · 16f · Standard · 14 ran 1/14 10-8 4561C Mr S Dobson 33/1
16 Nov 07+27d Wolverhampton (AW) Stay At The Wolverhampton Holiday Inn Handicap Class 6 · 14f · Standard · 13 ran 6/13 3½ 8-7 4645C Ashley Hamblett 20/1
20 Oct 07+243d Catterick toteexacta Handicap Class 6 · 14f · Good · 15 ran 15/15 30 8-9 4944C Ashley Hamblett 80/1
19 Feb 07+11d Market Rasen wbx.com World Bet Exchange Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 17.5f · Soft · 19 ran PU/19 — 11-9 82— Mattie Batchelor 33/1
08 Feb 07+23d Southwell (AW) Go Pontin's Handicap Class 6 · 16.5f · Slow · 12 ran 11/12 2 9-1 5138C Micky Fenton 20/1
16 Jan 07+45d Southwell (AW) Pontin's Family Holidays Handicap Class 6 · 16.5f · Standard · 9 ran 9/9 2 8-11 5340C Ashley Hamblett 11/2
2006 · 17 runs
02 Dec 06+15d Wolverhampton (AW) Racing Is For Everyone At Wolverhampton Handicap Class 6 · 16.5f · Standard · 8 ran 3/8 8 9-3 5547C Ashley Hamblett 5/1
17 Nov 06+15d Wolverhampton (AW) Twilight Racing - Miss The Traffic Handicap Class 6 · 14f · Standard · 12 ran 6/12 8 9-2 5647C Jerry O'Dwyer 12/1
02 Nov 06+80d Southwell (AW) Dine In The Queen Mother Restaurant Banded Stakes Class 7 · 14f · Standard · 14 ran 1/14 9-2 5658C Ashley Hamblett 8/1
14 Aug 06+17d Wolverhampton (AW) Take Control With wbx.com Handicap Class 6 · 16.5f · Standard · 13 ran 9/13 nk 8-13 5136C Ashley Hamblett 7/1
28 Jul 06+36d Wolverhampton (AW) Dine At Dunstall Park Apprentice Handicap Class 6 · 16.5f · Standard · 13 ran 1/13 8-10 4554C Ashley Hamblett 12/1
22 Jun 06+7d Wolverhampton (AW) Wbx.com Claiming Stakes Class 5 · 12f · Standard · 10 ran 4/10 1 9-2 4548C Ashley Hamblett 12/1
15 Jun 06+30d Uttoxeter Royal Orchid Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 16f · Good · 18 ran PU/18 — 11-0 82— Robert Thornton 14/1
16 May 06+14d Southwell (AW) Come Evening Racing On 31st Banded Stakes Class 7 · 14f · Standard · 10 ran 4/10 ¾ 8-11 4248C Shane Kelly 9/1
02 May 06+8d Wolverhampton (AW) Wolverhampton Racecourse Conference Centre Banded Stakes Class 7 · 14f · Standard · 13 ran 5/13 1¾ 8-12 4546C Micky Fenton 15/2
24 Apr 06+14d Wolverhampton (AW) Betfred Nationwide Banded Stakes Class 7 · 16.5f · Standard · 13 ran 4/13 nk 8-10 4649C Ashley Hamblett 16/1
10 Apr 06+10d Southwell (AW) On Turf On The 25th Banded Stakes Class 7 · 14f · Standard · 9 ran 4/9 1¼ 8-10 4647C Joseph Walsh 9/1
31 Mar 06+4d Wolverhampton (AW) Hotel And Conferencing At Dunstall Park Apprentice Handicap Class 5 · 14f · Standard · 8 ran 8/8 8 7-13 4834C Jemma Marshall 12/1
27 Mar 06+46d Wolverhampton (AW) Zongalero Restaurant Overlooks Racetrack Banded Stakes Class 7 · 14f · Standard · 12 ran 1/12 8-7 4551C Ashley Hamblett 33/1
09 Feb 06+16d Southwell (AW) Littlewoods Football Pools Handicap Class 6 · 16.5f · Standard · 8 ran 6/8 30 8-6 4542C Micky Fenton 22/1
24 Jan 06+5d Southwell (AW) Play Now At Betdirectpoker.com Banded Stakes Class 7 · 11f · Standard · 14 ran 5/14 3½ 9-0 4530C Micky Fenton 11/1
19 Jan 06+8d Southwell (AW) First Past The Post At Betdirect Banded Stakes Class 7 · 12f · Standard · 13 ran 6/13 1½ 9-0 4545C Micky Fenton 12/1
11 Jan 06+14d Southwell (AW) Betdirect Freephone 0800 211 222 Banded Stakes Class 7 · 14f · Standard · 13 ran 3/13 1 8-12 4551C Jason Edmunds 6/1
2005 · 14 runs
28 Dec 05+16d Wolverhampton (AW) Betdirect Freephone 0800 211 222 Banded Stakes Class 7 · 14f · Standard To Slow · 12 ran 6/12 nk 8-13 4755C Robbie Fitzpatrick 13/2
12 Dec 05+7d Wolverhampton (AW) In Running Tonight On Sky Text 293 Handicap Class 6 · 14f · Standard · 13 ran 6/13 ½ 8-9 4859C Micky Fenton 25/1
05 Dec 05+13d Wolverhampton (AW) Betdirect Freephone 0800 211 222 Banded Stakes Class 7 · 14f · Standard · 12 ran 8/12 shd 9-7 4845C Micky Fenton 7/1
22 Nov 05+8d Southwell (AW) Bet In-running Tonight At Betdirect.co.uk Banded Stakes Class 7 · 14f · Standard To Slow · 11 ran 1/11 9-3 4049C Micky Fenton 80/1
14 Nov 05+30d Wolverhampton (AW) Bet Direct On At The Races Interactive Banded Stakes Class 7 · 12f · Standard To Fast · 11 ran 5/11 2 8-12 4048C Adam Kirby 40/1
15 Oct 05+10d Catterick Totesportcasino.com Handicap Class 6 · 14f · Good · 17 ran 17/17 30 8-7 4541C Adrian Nicholls 100/1
05 Oct 05+17d Nottingham Letheby & Christopher Stable Staff Maiden Stakes (Div 1) Class 5 · 10f · Good · 11 ran 7/11 5 9-5 4564C Chris Catlin 125/1
18 Sep 05+14d Uttoxeter Leamore Contracts Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class F Class 4 · 16f · Good To Firm · 14 ran 12/14 ½ 11-4 8653C Christian Williams 20/1
04 Sep 05+53d Worcester Betfredcasino.com Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Firm · 9 ran PU/9 — 10-11 86— Liam Treadwell 16/1
13 Jul 05+7d Worcester BMS Contracts Ltd Novices' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 16f · Good To Firm · 13 ran PU/13 — 11-12 86— Robert Thornton 40/1
06 Jul 05+14d Worcester Beginners' Chase Class 4 · 16f · Good · 11 ran 6/11 6 10-12 —86C Robert Thornton 40/1
22 Jun 05+13d Worcester Winterfold House School Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 5/10 5 11-0 8699C Christian Williams 40/1
09 Jun 05+146d Uttoxeter Cameron Homes Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 7/15 nk 11-3 8686C Christian Williams 50/1
14 Jan 05 Huntingdon Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good · 18 ran 15/18 ½ 10-8 8858C Lee Vickers 66/1

Quick answers

How many races has Ice And Fire won?
Ice And Fire (GB) won 5 of 44 archived starts between 2005 and 2012, a strike rate of 11.4%. Placed 7 times in total (15.9% of starts).
Who trained Ice And Fire?
Ice And Fire (GB) was trained by John Stimpson on the most recent run on record, at Southwell (AW) on 27 March 2012.
Who is Ice And Fire's sire?
Ice And Fire (GB) is by Cadeaux Genereux (GB) out of Tanz (IRE), whose sire is Sadler's Wells.
What going does Ice And Fire prefer?
Ice And Fire (GB) has the best record on standard (aw) going: 5 wins from 30 starts (16.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Ice And Fire's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 45, from the run on 27 March 2012. The highest on record is 88.
What is Ice And Fire's sire's record?
Cadeaux Genereux (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 2,919 runs since Jan 2008 (203 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Ice And Fire's siblings?
Out of Tanz (IRE), Ice And Fire (GB) has 6 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Moon Sister (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Moon Sister (IRE)). The wins came over 1m1½f–1m4½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from January 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.