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Horse profile

Shouldntbethere (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2010) · Last trainer Jo Davis · Last owner Boys Club Racing
by Soviet Star (USA) out of Octomone (USA) (Hennessy)
42 runs · 13 courses · from Aug 2006
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 16 Nov 2010 — 5,811 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2010 · 3rd of 7 Won at Southwell (AW) Last raced off OR 74
KTB Profile

Shouldntbethere (IRE) is 1 from 42, the win coming at Class 6 level. Hasn't won since Nov 2006. The win came on the all-weather — 0 from 14 on turf.

Based on 42 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Won on AW, 0 on turf Win at Class 6
Official rating74↓ 6lb off peak
74 44–80

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Sep 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 81C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Newton Abbot, 13 Apr 2008 Official rating 74 at the last jumps run, 16 Nov 2010

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 47A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Kempton (AW), 24 Mar 2010 Official rating 45 at the last flat run, 28 May 2010

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Jumps 3 figures · best 81C · median 74
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Good to Soft274C72—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f281C77.5—
1m5f – 2m1———
Flat 36 figures · best 91C · median 52.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)2891C57—
Good to Firm352C39—
Good347C45—
Good to Soft243C40—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f1769A53—
1m – 1m1f1691C52.5—
6f – 7f364C47—

Of 42 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 39 figures from 42 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Soviet Star (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 8.7% of 2,621 runs since Jan 2008 (171 horses).

Weakest on heavy going: 5% from 160. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 5.6% from 320.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm36411.1%+2.4—
Good to Firm425378.7%00 from 4
Good594488.1%−0.60 from 4
Good to Soft235177.2%−1.50 from 5
Soft378287.4%−1.30 from 1
Heavy16085%−3.7—
Standard (AW)7938711%+2.31 from 28
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f134118.2%−0.5—
6f – 7f5475510.1%+1.40 from 3
1m – 1m1f5125310.4%+1.71 from 16
1m2f – 1m4f502469.2%+0.50 from 17
1m5f – 2m497387.6%−1.10 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f320185.6%−3.10 from 5
2m5f – 3m10387.8%−0.9—
Over 3m600%−8.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Octomone (USA) (Hennessy)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 28 1 4% −15.00
Good to Soft 5 0 0% −5.00
Good to Firm 4 0 0% −4.00
Good 4 0 0% −4.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 22 1 5% −9.00
Class 5 14 0 0% −14.00
Class 4 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 7 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Kempton (AW) 14 0 0% −14.00
Lingfield (AW) 8 0 0% −8.00
Southwell (AW) 4 1 25% +9.00
Newton Abbot 3 0 0% −3.00
Salisbury 3 0 0% −3.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Windsor 2 0 0% −2.00
Fakenham 1 0 0% −1.00
Fontwell 1 0 0% −1.00
Plumpton 1 0 0% −1.00
Brighton 1 0 0% −1.00
Lingfield 1 0 0% −1.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m2f – 1m4f 17 0 0% −17.00
1m – 1m1f 16 1 6% −3.00
2m1f – 2m4f 5 0 0% −5.00
6f – 7f 3 0 0% −3.00
1m5f – 2m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Robert Havlin 9 0 0% −9.00
Jack Mitchell 7 0 0% −7.00
N Bazeley 4 0 0% −4.00
Amy Baker 3 0 0% −3.00
Owyn Nelmes 3 0 0% −3.00
Jamie Mackay 3 1 33% +10.00
Jimmy Derham 2 0 0% −2.00
Adrian McCarthy 2 0 0% −2.00
Danny Burton 1 0 0% −1.00
Jamie Hamblett 1 0 0% −1.00
James Millman 1 0 0% −1.00
Richard Thomas 1 0 0% −1.00
James Doyle 1 0 0% −1.00
Alan Daly 1 0 0% −1.00
Jim Crowley 1 0 0% −1.00
Antony Procter 1 0 0% −1.00
Seb Sanders 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 39 1 3% −26.00
Tongue tie 3 0 0% −3.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2010 7 0 0% −7.00
2009 2 0 0% −2.00
2008 15 0 0% −15.00
2007 12 0 0% −12.00
2006 6 1 17% +7.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 36 1 3% −23.00
Chase 3 0 0% −3.00
Hurdle 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
16 Nov 10+11d Fakenham Hd Clinical Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 16.5f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 3/7 9 10-12 7470C Danny Burton 15/2
05 Nov 10+18d Fontwell Best Odds Guaranteed At ladbrokes.com Handicap Chase Class 5 · 17.5f · Good To Soft · 7 ran F/7 — 10-2 76— Jimmy Derham 12/1
18 Oct 10+143d Plumpton D & D Construction Handicap Chase Class 5 · 17f · Good To Firm · 4 ran UR/4 — 10-10 76— Jimmy Derham 9/1
28 May 10+31d Brighton Toteexacta Flexi Betting Handicap Class 6 · 10f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 6/7 ¾ 7-13 4539C Amy Baker 50/1
27 Apr 10+34d Lingfield (AW) Pick A Winner With Blue Square Icard Selling Stakes Class 6 · 12f · Standard · 8 ran 7/8 8 8-8 4441C Amy Baker 50/1
24 Mar 10+13d Kempton (AW) Kempton.co.uk Handicap (Div 1) Class 6 · 10f · Standard · 12 ran 9/12 ½ 7-13 4547A Amy Baker 33/1
11 Mar 10+391d Wolverhampton (AW) Name A Race To Enhance Your Brand Handicap Class 7 · 12f · Standard · 9 ran 9/9 30 8-10 4753C Jack Mitchell 50/1
13 Feb 09+28d Lingfield (AW) Rye Apprentice Selling Stakes Class 6 · 12f · Standard · 10 ran 6/10 3 8-12 4749A N Bazeley 33/1
16 Jan 09+16d Lingfield (AW) Copthorne Selling Stakes Class 6 · 12f · Standard · 8 ran 6/8 4 8-10 5046A N Bazeley 12/1
31 Dec 08+21d Lingfield (AW) William Hill January Sale - Bonuses Galore! Selling Stakes Class 6 · 12f · Standard · 11 ran 4/11 nse 8-11 5161A N Bazeley 33/1
10 Dec 08+23d Kempton (AW) City & Suburban Parking Handicap Class 6 · 12f · Standard · 12 ran 8/12 2¼ 8-9 5348A N Bazeley 16/1
17 Nov 08+19d Kempton (AW) Bet Premier League Football - Betdaq Handicap Class 6 · 12f · Standard · 12 ran 5/12 1 9-0 5461A Jack Mitchell 14/1
29 Oct 08+14d Kempton (AW) Epsom Owners & Trainers Awards Dinner Nov 22nd Handicap (Div 2) Class 6 · 12f · Standard · 11 ran 7/11 3¼ 8-12 5451A Jack Mitchell 15/2
15 Oct 08+42d Kempton (AW) Turftv Handicap (Div 1) Class 6 · 12f · Standard · 12 ran 2/12 1¾ 9-0 5269A Jack Mitchell 11/2F
03 Sep 08+32d Kempton (AW) Weatherbys Bloodstock Insurance Apprentice Handicap Class 6 · 11f · Standard · 14 ran 6/14 2¼ 9-2 5361A Jamie Hamblett 20/1
02 Aug 08+32d Lingfield (AW) Gay Kelleway Winning Racing Syndicate Handicap (AW) Class 6 · 10f · Standard · 14 ran 3/14 2¼ 8-13 5367A Jack Mitchell 50/1
01 Jul 08+26d Lingfield (AW) Surrey Royal British Legion Veterans TA-100 Centenary H'cap Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 12 ran 7/12 1½ 8-11 5552A Jack Mitchell 33/1
05 Jun 08+41d Newton Abbot Come Racing Here 9th June Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 17f · Soft · 11 ran PU/11 — 10-11 —— Owyn Nelmes 50/1
25 Apr 08+12d Newton Abbot Going, Going, Gone Selling Hurdle Class 5 · 17f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 6/10 ¾ 10-7 8074C Owyn Nelmes 33/1
13 Apr 08+16d Newton Abbot Racing Here 25th April Maiden Hurdle (Div I) Class 4 · 17f · Good · 13 ran 10/13 7 10-8 —81C Owyn Nelmes 50/1
28 Mar 08+28d Kempton (AW) intercasino.co.uk Claiming Stakes Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 9 ran 7/9 1 8-10 5748A Robert Havlin 20/1
29 Feb 08+23d Kempton (AW) Digibet Apprentice Claiming Stakes Class 5 · 8f · Standard · 6 ran 5/6 ¾ 9-1 6158B Jack Mitchell 14/1
06 Feb 08+19d Kempton (AW) digibet.com Handicap Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 7 ran 7/7 shd 9-0 6151A Robert Havlin 9/1
18 Jan 08+22d Kempton (AW) digibet.com Claiming Stakes Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 5 ran 3/5 1¼ 9-0 6166B Robert Havlin 8/1
27 Dec 07+36d Southwell (AW) J.A. Hutchinson Ltd Dental Laboratory Handicap Class 5 · 8f · Standard · 9 ran 8/9 5 8-7 6343C Adrian McCarthy 11/1
21 Nov 07+30d Kempton (AW) Digibet Sports Betting Handicap Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 14 ran 2/14 2 8-13 6069C Robert Havlin 25/1
22 Oct 07+18d Wolverhampton (AW) The Win Whatever The Result with BetAngel Handicap Class 6 · 9.5f · Standard · 12 ran 8/12 hd 8-11 6354C James Millman 16/1
04 Oct 07+8d Kempton (AW) Day Time, Night Time, Great Time Handicap Class 5 · 10f · Standard · 10 ran 5/10 ½ 8-9 6556C Adrian McCarthy 33/1
26 Sep 07+20d Kempton (AW) Barrettstown Stud Handicap Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 12 ran 10/12 nk 9-3 6553C Robert Havlin 16/1
06 Sep 07+36d Salisbury Danco Marquees Handicap Class 5 · 8f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 11/13 1¾ 8-4 5532C Richard Thomas 33/1
01 Aug 07+21d Kempton (AW) Azure Hospitality Handicap Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 14 ran 2/14 ¾ 9-5 6376C Robert Havlin 33/1
11 Jul 07+23d Lingfield Platinum Abba Live At lingfieldpark.co.uk Handicap Class 6 · 9f · Good · 14 ran 11/14 ½ 9-0 5845C Robert Havlin 33/1
18 Jun 07+18d Windsor Play Blackjack At Vc Casino.com Handicap Class 5 · 10f · Good To Soft · 16 ran 13/16 9 8-13 6243C James Doyle 50/1
31 May 07+31d Lingfield (AW) Bentley, Kent Handicap Class 5 · 10f · Standard · 13 ran 6/13 shd 8-10 6662C Robert Havlin 20/1
30 Apr 07+10d Windsor Monday Night With Vc casino.com Handicap Class 5 · 8f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 9/13 ¾ 8-9 6652C Alan Daly 25/1
20 Apr 07+143d Lingfield (AW) lingfieldpark.co.Uk Handicap Class 4 · 10f · Standard · 13 ran 10/13 nk 8-8 6961C Jim Crowley 66/1
28 Nov 06+18d Southwell (AW) Sponsor A Race At Southwell Nursery Handicap Class 5 · 8f · Standard · 9 ran 2/9 4 8-13 6667C Jamie Mackay 4/1
10 Nov 06+10d Southwell (AW) Hospitality Packages Available Claiming Stakes Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 12 ran 1/12 8-11 6691C Jamie Mackay 12/1
31 Oct 06+34d Southwell (AW) wbx.com Maiden Auction Stakes Class 7 · 6f · Standard To Fast · 12 ran 3/12 2½ 8-12 4864C Jamie Mackay 50/1
27 Sep 06+12d Salisbury Allied Irish Bank EBF Maiden Stks (Div1) Class 4 · 8f · Good · 11 ran 11/11 4 9-3 4529C Antony Procter 100/1
15 Sep 06+29d Nottingham Sarrego Memorial E.B.F. Maiden Stakes (Div 2) Class 5 · 6f · Good · 12 ran 10/12 shd 9-3 —47C Robert Havlin 100/1
17 Aug 06 Salisbury Stella Artois Maiden Auction Stakes (Div 2) Class 5 · 7f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 12/13 ¾ 8-9 —37C Seb Sanders 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Shouldntbethere (IRE) won?
Shouldntbethere (IRE) won 1 of 42 archived starts between 2006 and 2010, a strike rate of 2.4%. Placed 7 times in total (16.7% of starts).
Who trained Shouldntbethere (IRE)?
Shouldntbethere (IRE) was trained by Jo Davis on the most recent run on record, at Fakenham on 16 November 2010.
Who is Shouldntbethere (IRE)'s sire?
Shouldntbethere (IRE) is by Soviet Star (USA) out of Octomone (USA), whose sire is Hennessy.
What going does Shouldntbethere (IRE) prefer?
Shouldntbethere (IRE) has the best record on standard (aw) going: 1 win from 28 starts (3.6%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Shouldntbethere (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 74, from the run on 16 November 2010. The highest on record is 80.
What is Shouldntbethere (IRE)'s sire's record?
Soviet Star (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.7% of 2,621 runs since Jan 2008 (171 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 5% from 160. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 5.6% from 320.

Record shown from August 2006. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.