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Needless Shouting (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Jul 2017) · Last trainer Alexandra Dunn · Last owner Sidbury Lions One
by Footstepsinthesand (GB) out of Ring The Relatives (GB) (Bering)
47 runs · 28 courses · from Jun 2013
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 7 Jul 2017 — 3,393 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2017 · 7th of 9 3 wins · Plumpton, Yarmouth & Sandown New yard Last raced off OR 90
KTB Profile

Needless Shouting (IRE) is 3 from 47. Hasn't won since Apr 2015. All 3 wins have come on turf — 0 from 5 on the all-weather. All 3 wins have come over 1m5f – 2m. Last raced off 90, 30lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 47 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance All wins on turf OR ↓ 30lb off peak
Official rating90↓ 30lb off peak
90 64–120

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 69 the best of the last 1 graded (A or B) run · Cartmel, 31 May 2017

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 4 figures · best 95C · median 78.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good to Soft269A47.5—
Good to Firm1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f295C82—
2m5f – 3m1———
Over 3m1———
Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 7 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (1) · obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 7 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 94A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Cartmel, 31 May 2017 Official rating 90 at the last jumps run, 7 Jul 2017

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 66A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Chester, 22 Aug 2015 Official rating 67 at the last flat run, 24 Apr 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 12 figures · best 120B · median 98.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good5120B97—
Good to Soft4112B97—
Good to Firm1———
Soft1———
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f5117B94—
1m5f – 2m5120B106—
2m5f – 3m1———
Over 3m1———
Flat 32 figures · best 85B · median 69
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good to Firm1279A69—
Good985B67—
Standard (AW)578A67—
Soft385A69—
Good to Soft275B72.5—
Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m1276C67.5—
6f – 7f879A69—
1m – 1m1f578A74—
1m2f – 1m4f485B68.5—
2m5f – 3m1———
2m1f – 2m4f1———
Under 6f1———

Of 47 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 44 figures from 47 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 10.2% of 12,783 runs since Jan 2008 (936 horses).

Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 6.9% from 320.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm721622.2%+120 from 1
Good to Firm1,91122011.5%+1.31 from 13
Good2,9452689.1%−1.11 from 17
Good to Soft1,2401088.7%−1.51 from 6
Soft1,7721448.1%−2.10 from 4
Heavy5416211.5%+1.30 from 1
Standard (AW)4,30048511.3%+1.10 from 5
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1,12714212.6%+2.40 from 1
6f – 7f5,03752710.5%+0.30 from 8
1m – 1m1f3,32833610.1%−0.10 from 5
1m2f – 1m4f2,1001969.3%−0.90 from 4
1m5f – 2m837809.6%−0.63 from 19
2m1f – 2m4f320226.9%−3.30 from 7
2m5f – 3m3113.2%−70 from 2
Over 3m300%−10.20 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Ring The Relatives (GB) (Bering)

7 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Footprint (IRE) (6 wins).

The wins came over 6f–1m; the highest grade won is Class 6 (St Paul De Vence (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Footprint (IRE)6166f–7f—
Betrothed (IRE)811m—
St Paul De Vence (IRE)1611mClass 6
Lough Sewdy (IRE)100——
Peintre's Wonder (IRE)60——
Wonderful One (IRE)40——
Newsround (GB)170——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 17 1 6% −14.80
Good to Firm 13 1 8% +4.00
Good to Soft 6 1 17% −0.50
Standard (AW) 5 0 0% −5.00
Soft 4 0 0% −4.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00
Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 19 2 11% +3.50
Class 4 17 1 6% −14.80
Class 3 8 0 0% −8.00
Class 6 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 2 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Yarmouth 4 1 25% +1.50
Catterick 3 0 0% −3.00
Fontwell 3 0 0% −3.00
Chester 3 0 0% −3.00
Goodwood 3 0 0% −3.00
Sandown 3 1 33% +14.00
Newbury 2 0 0% −2.00
Nottingham 2 0 0% −2.00
Salisbury 2 0 0% −2.00
Bath 2 0 0% −2.00
Kempton (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Newton Abbot 1 0 0% −1.00
Cartmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Sedgefield 1 0 0% −1.00
Market Rasen 1 0 0% −1.00
Pontefract 1 0 0% −1.00
Southwell 1 0 0% −1.00
Wincanton 1 0 0% −1.00
Plumpton 1 1 100% +1.20
Fakenham 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Haydock 1 0 0% −1.00
Windsor 1 0 0% −1.00
Lingfield (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Warwick 1 0 0% −1.00
Epsom Downs 1 0 0% −1.00
Newcastle 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 19 3 16% +5.70
6f – 7f 8 0 0% −8.00
2m1f – 2m4f 7 0 0% −7.00
1m – 1m1f 5 0 0% −5.00
1m2f – 1m4f 4 0 0% −4.00
2m5f – 3m 2 0 0% −2.00
Over 3m 1 0 0% −1.00
Under 6f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Sam Hitchcott 13 2 15% +9.50
William Twiston-Davies 6 0 0% −6.00
Andrew Thornton 3 1 33% −0.80
Charles Bishop 3 0 0% −3.00
Martin Harley 3 0 0% −3.00
Brendan Powell 2 0 0% −2.00
Paddy Pilley 2 0 0% −2.00
Conor O'Farrell 2 0 0% −2.00
Richie McLernon 1 0 0% −1.00
Danny Cook 1 0 0% −1.00
Gemma Tutty 1 0 0% −1.00
Daragh Bourke 1 0 0% −1.00
Harry Reed 1 0 0% −1.00
Sean Quinlan 1 0 0% −1.00
Leighton Aspell 1 0 0% −1.00
Gavin Sheehan 1 0 0% −1.00
Mattie Batchelor 1 0 0% −1.00
Franny Norton 1 0 0% −1.00
George Baker 1 0 0% −1.00
James Sullivan 1 0 0% −1.00
Nicky Mackay 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 41 3 7% −16.30
Tongue tie 3 0 0% −3.00
Visor 3 0 0% −3.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2017 5 0 0% −5.00
2016 6 0 0% −6.00
2015 13 1 8% −10.80
2014 13 2 15% +9.50
2013 10 0 0% −10.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 32 2 6% −9.50
Hurdle 11 1 9% −8.80
Chase 4 0 0% −4.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
07 Jul 17+37d Newton Abbot Visit Attheraces.com Selling Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 21.5f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 7/9 3¾ 11-2 9088C87C Richie McLernon 11/1
31 May 17+15d Cartmel Champagne Louis Roederer Handicap Chase Class 4 · 17.5f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 4/7 11 11-1 8869A94A Brendan Powell 16/1
16 May 17+19d Sedgefield Paxtons For Caseih Axial Flow Combines Handicap Chase Class 5 · 16.5f · Good · 9 ran PU/9 — 11-6 94—— Danny Cook 12/1
27 Apr 17+3d Market Rasen 32Red.com Handicap Chase Class 4 · 17f · Good · 5 ran 5/5 11 10-12 9995C79B Brendan Powell 28/1
24 Apr 17+132d Pontefract Pontefract Marathon Handicap Class 5 · 21.5f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 9/10 16 9-3 6771C61C Gemma Tutty 20/1
13 Dec 16+13d Catterick Come Racing New Year's Day Beginners' Chase Class 3 · 25f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 6/7 88 10-11 10426C100C Daragh Bourke 250/1
30 Nov 16+108d Catterick Racing To School Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle (Div 2) Class 4 · 19.5f · Good · 10 ran F/10 — 11-1 104—— Harry Reed 33/1
14 Aug 16+121d Southwell Nova Tours Of Chesterfield Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 15.5f · Good · 10 ran 6/10 ¾ 11-11 109—97C Sean Quinlan 25/1
15 Apr 16+27d Fontwell Charlie Millington 80 Not Out Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 17.5f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 6/7 67 11-6 114—89C Andrew Thornton 8/1
19 Mar 16+58d Fontwell Smart Computers UK Ltd On Facebook Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 17.5f · Good · 9 ran 6/9 9 10-10 118—97C Leighton Aspell 10/1
21 Jan 16+26d Wincanton Higos Insurance Services Yeovil Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 15.5f · Soft · 12 ran 8/12 ½ 11-3 119—106A Gavin Sheehan 6/1
26 Dec 15+102d Fontwell Winterfields Farm Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 17.5f · Heavy · 9 ran 2/9 17 11-4 120—117B Mattie Batchelor 10/1
15 Sep 15+24d Yarmouth Greene King Handicap Class 4 · 14f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 5/7 11 9-7 73—60C Charles Bishop 5/1
22 Aug 15+24d Chester Racing Uk Handicap Class 4 · 16f · Good · 15 ran 11/15 3½ 9-3 74—66A Sam Hitchcott 12/1
29 Jul 15+11d Goodwood Victoria Racing Club Goodwood Stakes (Handicap) Class 2 · 20.5f · Good · 19 ran 12/19 7 8-2 74—59C Franny Norton 20/1
18 Jul 15+21d Newbury Grundon Recycle Handicap Class 4 · 16f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 2/9 3 8-2 73—66A Paddy Pilley 8/1
27 Jun 15+16d Chester Becks Handicap Class 4 · 16f · Good To Firm · 8 ran 4/8 ¾ 8-2 73—64A Paddy Pilley 11/4F
11 Jun 15+23d Nottingham Ashton Bond Gigg Handicap Class 5 · 14f · Good To Firm · 4 ran 2/4 2¼ 9-6 73—76C Sam Hitchcott 10/3
19 May 15+16d Nottingham Horse Racing Loyalty Bonus At winner.co.uk Handicap Class 5 · 16f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 4/11 hd 9-8 75—70A Sam Hitchcott 6/1
03 May 15+27d Salisbury Betfred "City Bowl" Handicap Class 3 · 14f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 5/9 2¾ 8-7 76—63C Sam Hitchcott 8/1
06 Apr 15+16d Plumpton Toteplacepot Racing's Favourite Bet Juvenile Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good · 9 ran 1/9 10-12 120—120B Andrew Thornton 6/5F
21 Mar 15+19d Newbury John Haine Memorial Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 16.5f · Good · 8 ran 4/8 2½ 10-7 ——100A Conor O'Farrell 14/1
02 Mar 15+12d Fakenham Norwich Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 2/7 1 10-7 ——112B Conor O'Farrell 6/4F
18 Feb 15+145d Doncaster Betbright Risk Free Bet Juvenile Hurdle Class 4 · 16.5f · Good · 10 ran UR/10 — 10-12 ——— Andrew Thornton 20/1
26 Sep 14+13d Haydock Vale UK Handicap Class 3 · 14f · Good · 7 ran 6/7 12 8-8 77—57C Sam Hitchcott 20/1
13 Sep 14+31d Chester Betfair Commits 40Million To British Racing Handicap Class 3 · 16f · Good · 7 ran 2/7 1¼ 8-12 76—74A Sam Hitchcott 13/2
13 Aug 14+7d Yarmouth Casino At Bet365.com Handicap Class 5 · 11.5f · Good · 4 ran 2/4 3¾ 9-12 69—85B Sam Hitchcott 9/4
06 Aug 14+21d Yarmouth Family Funday At Great Yarmouth Racecourse Handicap Class 5 · 14f · Good To Soft · 5 ran 1/5 8-13 70—75B Sam Hitchcott 9/2
16 Jul 14+15d Sandown Molesey Handicap Class 5 · 14f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 1/10 9-3 65—75A Sam Hitchcott 16/1
01 Jul 14+15d Bath Unibet By Players For Players Maiden Handicap Class 5 · 13f · Firm · 10 ran 6/10 ¾ 8-10 66—69A Sam Hitchcott 12/1
16 Jun 14+9d Windsor Royal Windsor Festival Weekend Handicap Class 5 · 10f · Good · 10 ran 6/10 shd 9-5 66—70A Sam Hitchcott 12/1
07 Jun 14+47d Lingfield (AW) Hickstead Derby Meeting 25th-29th June Handicap (AWT) Class 5 · 10f · Standard · 13 ran 9/13 nk 9-1 67—62A William Twiston-Davies 10/1
21 Apr 14+11d Yarmouth Best Odds Guaranteed At Totepool.com Maiden Auction Stakes Class 5 · 10f · Good · 8 ran 3/8 hd 8-8 65—67A William Twiston-Davies 9/2
10 Apr 14+10d Kempton (AW) Download The Betvictor App Now Handicap Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 14 ran 3/14 ½ 9-4 65—74A William Twiston-Davies 9/2
31 Mar 14+39d Kempton (AW) Turftv Handicap Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 8 ran 3/8 1¾ 9-4 65—78A William Twiston-Davies 5/1
20 Feb 14+10d Wolverhampton (AW) 32Red Free 10 Bonus Handicap Class 5 · 8.5f · Standard · 6 ran 4/6 2¼ 8-10 64—64B William Twiston-Davies 5/1
10 Feb 14+113d Wolverhampton (AW) 32Red Play Thunderstruck With 10 Free Handicap Class 5 · 8.5f · Standard · 6 ran 2/6 1½ 8-12 64—67B William Twiston-Davies 11/2
20 Oct 13+7d Bath Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 5.5f · Soft · 9 ran 3/9 2 9-5 65—85A George Baker 3/1
13 Oct 13+10d Goodwood Greene King Ipa Maiden Auction Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Soft · 12 ran 5/12 ½ 8-6 65—69A Charles Bishop 7/1
03 Oct 13+12d Warwick Colliers International Business Rates Services Nursery Class 4 · 7f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 6/10 ½ 8-9 68—70A Sam Hitchcott 25/1
21 Sep 13+9d Catterick 33 Racecourses Live On Sky 432 Nursery Class 4 · 7f · Good · 10 ran 4/10 1 8-5 68—63A James Sullivan 9/1
12 Sep 13+12d Epsom Downs British Stallion Studs E.b.f. Median Auction Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 7f · Soft · 7 ran 3/7 2½ 9-2 68—68A Charles Bishop 3/1
31 Aug 13+6d Sandown betfred.com Nursery Class 4 · 7f · Good To Firm · 8 ran 3/8 nk 8-8 67—73A Martin Harley 13/2
25 Aug 13+29d Goodwood Fairground Maiden Auction Stakes Class 5 · 8f · Good · 12 ran 3/12 2¼ 8-9 67—75A Martin Harley 8/1
27 Jul 13+10d Newcastle Collingwood Insurance Company Maiden Auction Stakes Class 4 · 7f · Good To Firm · 12 ran 4/12 2 8-9 ——69A Sam Hitchcott 11/4
17 Jul 13+17d Sandown Robert Dyas Maiden Auction Stakes Class 5 · 7f · Good To Firm · 16 ran 3/16 1 8-9 ——79A Martin Harley 4/1J
30 Jun 13 Salisbury Bathwick Tyres Auction Stakes (Conditions Race) (Sunday 5k Bonus Race) Class 3 · 6f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 5/9 1 8-1 ——69A Nicky Mackay 12/1

Quick answers

How many races has Needless Shouting (IRE) won?
Needless Shouting (IRE) won 3 of 47 archived starts between 2013 and 2017, a strike rate of 6.4%. Placed 15 times in total (31.9% of starts).
Who trained Needless Shouting (IRE)?
Needless Shouting (IRE) was trained by Alexandra Dunn on the most recent run on record, at Newton Abbot on 7 July 2017.
Who is Needless Shouting (IRE)'s sire?
Needless Shouting (IRE) is by Footstepsinthesand (GB) out of Ring The Relatives (GB), whose sire is Bering.
What going does Needless Shouting (IRE) prefer?
Needless Shouting (IRE) has the best record on good to soft going: 1 win from 6 starts (16.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Needless Shouting (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 90, from the run on 7 July 2017. The highest on record is 120.
What is Needless Shouting (IRE)'s sire's record?
Footstepsinthesand (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.2% of 12,783 runs since Jan 2008 (936 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 6.9% from 320.
Who are Needless Shouting (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Ring The Relatives (GB), Needless Shouting (IRE) has 7 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Footprint (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Class 6 (St Paul De Vence (IRE)). The wins came over 6f–1m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from June 2013. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.