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Horse profile

The Grand Visir (GB)

10yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2024) · Last trainer Ian Williams · Last owner Andy Bell Fergus Lyons
by Frankel (GB) out of Piping (IRE) (Montjeu)
51 runs · 20 courses · from May 2017
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 6 Nov 2024 — 729 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2024 · 4th of 10 5 wins · 5 courses Last raced off OR 76
KTB Profile

The Grand Visir won five of 51 starts between May 2017 and Jun 2019, all on turf. Three of those wins came on good to soft going, two over 1m5f – 2m and two over 1m2f – 1m4f, with his biggest success in the Ascot Stakes, a Class 2 handicap off a mark of 100. He last ran at Nottingham in Nov 2024, finishing fourth of 10. Aged 10 at his last run in Nov 2024, he was 49lb below his highest ever mark of 125.

Based on 51 archived runs · run-style from 6 commented runs since Aug 2024 · updated 5 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 49lb off peak
Official rating76↓ 49lb off peak
76 76–125

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 96 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Nottingham, 6 Nov 2024

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 44 figures · best 144C · median 94.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Good to Firm13135C97—
Good13144C100—
Soft8142A93.5—
Good to Soft7123A95—
Standard (AW)391C84—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f19144C102—
1m5f – 2m17123A96—
1m2f – 1m4f5110A85—
2m5f – 3m385C66—
Jumps 4 figures · best 122B · median 110
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Good2100B98.5—
Good to Soft2122B121—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m3122B120—
1m5f – 2m1———

Of 50 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (2).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 48 figures from 50 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 82A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Nottingham, 6 Nov 2024 Official rating 76 at the last flat run, 6 Nov 2024

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 129A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Aintree, 24 Oct 2021 Official rating 124 at the last jumps run, 7 Nov 2021

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 44 figures · best 102A · median 83
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Good to Firm1388A78—
Good1399A86—
Soft889B82—
Good to Soft7102A94—
Standard (AW)391B76—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f19101A82—
1m5f – 2m17102A87—
1m2f – 1m4f594B83—
2m5f – 3m389A88—
Jumps 4 figures · best 129A · median 124.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Good2129A119.5—
Good to Soft2129B124.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m3129A129—
1m5f – 2m1———

Of 50 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 48 figures from 50 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style from 6 analysed runs since Aug 2024

  • Prominent 3 (50%) · 0 wins
  • Mid-division 2 (33%) · 0 wins
  • Led 1 (17%) · 0 wins

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 18% of 7,539 runs since May 2016 (882 horses).

Weakest on heavy going: 12.8% from 329. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 12.2% from 270.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm15426.7%+8.7—
Good to Firm1,28025920.2%+2.21 from 13
Good1,91536218.9%+0.91 from 15
Good to Soft1,02317517.1%−0.93 from 9
Soft1,11916314.6%−3.40 from 11
Heavy3294212.8%−5.2—
Standard (AW)1,85835118.9%+0.90 from 3
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f651116.9%−1.1—
6f – 7f1,26523618.7%+0.7—
1m – 1m1f1,98837218.7%+0.7—
1m2f – 1m4f2,88354719%+12 from 5
1m5f – 2m97315115.5%−2.52 from 19
2m1f – 2m4f2703312.2%−5.81 from 21
2m5f – 3m8467.1%−10.90 from 6
Over 3m1100%−18—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since May 2016 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Piping (IRE) (Montjeu)

5 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Cisky (FR) (4 wins).

The wins came over 1m1f–1m1½f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Cisky (FR)3041m1½f—
Minnipa (GB)311m1f—
Phedre (GB)80——
Inthepipe (IRE)10——
Pass The Stars (IRE)80——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 15 1 7% −10.00
Good to Firm 13 1 8% −9.00
Soft 11 0 0% −11.00
Good to Soft 9 3 33% +33.75
Standard (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 2 32 2 6% −14.00
Class 3 7 3 43% +26.75
Class 1 7 0 0% −7.00
Class 4 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Ascot 8 1 13% +5.00
Goodwood 6 0 0% −6.00
Newmarket 5 1 20% −1.25
Chester 5 0 0% −5.00
Doncaster 5 1 20% +21.00
York 4 0 0% −4.00
Newbury 3 0 0% −3.00
Pontefract 2 0 0% −2.00
Aintree 2 0 0% −2.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Ffos Las 1 0 0% −1.00
Sandown 1 0 0% −1.00
Longchamp (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Cheltenham 1 0 0% −1.00
Worcester 1 0 0% −1.00
Newcastle (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Haydock 1 1 100% +4.00
Yarmouth 1 1 100% +3.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 21 1 5% −8.00
1m5f – 2m 19 2 11% +12.00
2m5f – 3m 6 0 0% −6.00
1m2f – 1m4f 5 2 40% +2.75

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Richard Kingscote 20 1 5% −7.00
Robert Dunne 4 0 0% −4.00
Jim Crowley 3 0 0% −3.00
Pat Cosgrave 3 1 33% +0.75
Dougie Costello 2 0 0% −2.00
James Doyle 2 1 50% +3.00
Daniel Tudhope 2 0 0% −2.00
Silvestre De Sousa 2 0 0% −2.00
Andrew Breslin 1 0 0% −1.00
David Probert 1 0 0% −1.00
Alberto Sanna 1 0 0% −1.00
Joe Fanning 1 0 0% −1.00
David Egan 1 0 0% −1.00
Luke Morris 1 0 0% −1.00
Charlie Todd 1 0 0% −1.00
William Buick 1 0 0% −1.00
Maxime Guyon 1 0 0% −1.00
Shane Gray 1 0 0% −1.00
Tom Scudamore 1 0 0% −1.00
Harry Bentley 1 1 100% +25.00
Ryan Moore 1 1 100% +3.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 23 0 0% −23.00
Cheekpieces 12 1 8% −7.00
None 6 3 50% +27.75
Tongue tie + visor 5 0 0% −5.00
Tongue tie 3 1 33% +10.00
Tongue tie + blinkers 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2024 8 0 0% −8.00
2023 10 0 0% −10.00
2022 2 0 0% −2.00
2021 9 0 0% −9.00
2020 5 0 0% −5.00
2019 6 1 17% +7.00
2018 5 2 40% +26.00
2017 6 2 33% +1.75

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 45 5 11% +6.75
Hurdle 6 0 0% −6.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2024 · 8 runs
06 Nov 24+46d Nottingham Goodbye And Thank You Ed Player Handicap Class 4 · 2m · Soft · 10 ran Settled just behind the leading group - asked for effort over 3f out but unable to close - kept going at an unchanged tempo to finish fourth 4/10 2 9-12 7696A82A Richard Kingscote 14/1
21 Sep 24+18d Newmarket Turners Cesarewitch Trial Handicap Class 2 · 2m2f · Good To Firm · 11 ran Handy early - driven and dropped back with 6f left - well beaten from there - finished 7th 7/11 9½ 8-2 79108C65C Andrew Breslin 40/1
03 Sep 24+16d Goodwood Royal Sussex Regiment Handicap Class 2 · 2m · Good · 8 ran Hit front after opening furlong - opened big advantage by halfway before margin narrowed 3f from home while holding inner spot - overtaken with 2f left and dropped away fast - allowed to drop away with no prospect inside final two furlongs - well held at the finish 6/8 14 8-11 81102C65C David Probert 12/1
18 Aug 24+8d Pontefract Sky Bet Build A Bet Handicap Class 3 · 2m1f · Good To Firm · 4 ran Sat close to pace early - pushed along and closed on front-runner over 2f out - weakened approaching final furlong - finished third 3/4 8 9-9 8289C77B Richard Kingscote 4/1
10 Aug 24+8d Ascot Dubai Duty Free Shergar Cup Stayers (Handicap) Class 2 · 2m · Good · 10 ran Settled among the pack midfield - improved a furlong out and moved left to take third inside the last - kept on to finish third beaten three quarters of a length 3/10 ½ 8-11 8186B78A Alberto Sanna 11/1
02 Aug 24+45d Goodwood Coral Goodwood Handicap Class 2 · 2m4½f · Good To Firm · 18 ran Settled with the pack early - nudged for effort with 2f remaining - dropped away in the last furlong - finished ninth 9/18 1¾ 8-13 84135C74A Richard Kingscote 33/1
18 Jun 24+39d Ascot Ascot Stakes (Heritage Handicap) Class 2 · 2m4f · Good To Firm · 20 ran 13/20 nse 8-13 8776C72C Richard Kingscote 33/1
10 May 24+156d Chester Duke Of Westminster Supporting The Chester Cup (Heritage Handicap) Class 2 · 2m2½f · Good To Firm · 16 ran 9/16 1½ 8-6 8998C78A Joe Fanning 33/1
2023 · 10 runs
06 Dec 23+53d Kempton (AW) Unibet London Stayers' Series (Final) Handicap Class 2 · 2m · Standard To Slow · 14 ran 14/14 17 9-1 9279C70C Dougie Costello 66/1
14 Oct 23+14d Newmarket Club Godolphin Cesarewitch Handicap (Heritage Handicap) Class 2 · 2m2f · Soft · 31 ran 12/31 hd 9-0 9391C81A David Egan 50/1
30 Sep 23+15d Chester Watergate Cup Handicap Class 2 · 2m2½f · Soft · 9 ran 7/9 6½ 9-4 97121C80C Dougie Costello 16/1
15 Sep 23+34d Doncaster Betfred Doncaster Cup Stakes (Group 2) (British Champions Series) Class 1 · 2m2f · Soft · 5 ran 4/5 ½ 9-7 9389C89B Richard Kingscote 66/1
12 Aug 23+8d Ascot Dubai Duty Free Shergar Cup Stayers (Handicap) Class 2 · 2m · Good To Soft · 10 ran 3/10 2½ 9-8 9464B87A Luke Morris 11/1
04 Aug 23+13d Goodwood Coral Goodwood Handicap Class 2 · 2m4½f · Soft · 17 ran 5/17 2 9-4 95141C87A Richard Kingscote 20/1
22 Jul 23+28d Newbury Mettal UK Handicap Class 2 · 2m½f · Good · 13 ran 9/13 3 9-11 97103C82A Richard Kingscote 25/1
24 Jun 23+4d Ascot Queen Alexandra Stakes (Conditions Race) Class 2 · 2m5½f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 2/9 ½ 9-4 9566A88A Richard Kingscote 9/1
20 Jun 23+39d Ascot Ascot Stakes (Heritage Handicap) Class 2 · 2m4f · Good · 19 ran 8/19 1 9-7 9572C83A Richard Kingscote 40/1
12 May 23+371d Chester tote Chester Cup (Heritage Handicap) Class 2 · 2m2½f · Soft · 16 ran 9/16 2¾ 9-1 9790C81A Richard Kingscote 33/1
2022 · 2 runs
06 May 22+27d Chester Tote+ Chester Cup Handicap Class 2 · 2m2½f · Good · 14 ran 9/14 1¼ 9-4 10187C87A Jim Crowley 18/1
09 Apr 22+153d Wolverhampton (AW) Betway Handicap Class 2 · 2m½f · Standard · 6 ran 6/6 1 9-8 10284A91B Richard Kingscote 4/1
2021 · 9 runs
07 Nov 21+14d Ffos Las Call Star Sports On 08000 521 321 Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m4f · Soft · 8 ran BD/8 — 11-4 124—— Robert Dunne 8/11F
24 Oct 21+44d Aintree Jewson Click and Collect Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 3m½f · Good · 14 ran 5/14 nse 11-6 125100B129A Charlie Todd 10/3
10 Sep 21+21d Doncaster Doncaster Cup Stakes (Group 2) (British Champions Series) Class 1 · 2m2f · Good To Firm · 6 ran 6/6 1¼ 9-5 102118A79B Richard Kingscote 22/1
20 Aug 21+21d York Weatherbys Hamilton Lonsdale Cup Stakes (Group 2) (British Champions Series) Class 1 · 2m½f · Good To Firm · 4 ran 3/4 7 9-3 102100C87B Richard Kingscote 28/1
30 Jul 21+28d Goodwood Unibet 3 Boosts A Day Goodwood Handicap Class 2 · 2m4½f · Good · 20 ran 10/20 hd 9-9 104133C91A William Buick 13/2C
02 Jul 21+13d Sandown Coral Marathon (Listed) (Registered As The Esher Stakes) Class 1 · 2m · Good · 4 ran 2/4 1½ 9-0 104102C93B Richard Kingscote 2/1
19 Jun 21+26d Ascot Queen Alexandra Stakes (Conditions Race) Class 2 · 2m5½f · Soft · 15 ran 3/15 ½ 9-2 10585C89A Richard Kingscote 17/2
24 May 21+17d Longchamp (FR) Prix Vicomtesse Vigier (4yo+) (Grande Course) (Turf) 1m7½f · Very Soft · 8 ran 3/8 6 9-0 ——— Maxime Guyon 51/10
07 May 21+175d Chester tote+ Chester Cup Handicap Class 2 · 2m2½f · Good To Soft · 16 ran 2/16 2 9-9 103104C94A Richard Kingscote 16/1
2020 · 5 runs
13 Nov 20+25d Cheltenham Ballymore Novices' Hurdle (Grade 2) (Registered As The Hyde Novices' Hurdle) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 2m5f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 4/7 7½ 11-0 125122B120A Robert Dunne 15/2
19 Oct 20+38d Pontefract Phil Bull Trophy Conditions Stakes Class 2 · 2m2f · Soft · 6 ran 2/6 9 9-9 105142A82B Richard Kingscote 6/4
11 Sep 20+44d Doncaster bet365 Doncaster Cup Stakes (Group 2) Class 1 · 2m2f · Good · 7 ran 3/7 4 9-5 106102A86A Jim Crowley 10/1
29 Jul 20+39d Goodwood Unibet You're On Goodwood Handicap Class 2 · 2m4½f · Good · 15 ran 4/15 shd 9-10 104144C99A Richard Kingscote 14/1
20 Jun 20+241d Ascot Queen Alexandra Stakes (Conditions Race) Class 2 · 2m5½f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 2/9 nk 9-2 10458A83A Richard Kingscote 11/4
2019 · 6 runs
23 Oct 19+60d Worcester MansionBet Proud To Support British Racing Maiden Hurdle Class 5 · 2m7f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 3/7 4 11-0 —120A129B Robert Dunne 11/4
24 Aug 19+35d York Sky Bet Ebor Handicap Class 2 · 1m6f · Good To Firm · 22 ran 16/22 1¾ 9-2 10593C73C Jim Crowley 50/1
20 Jul 19+32d Newbury Marsh Cup Handicap Class 2 · 2m½f · Good To Soft · 16 ran 7/16 nk 9-8 105115C91A James Doyle 7/1
18 Jun 19+10d Ascot Ascot Stakes (Handicap) Class 2 · 2m4f · Good To Soft · 19 ran 1/19 9-10 10071C101A Richard Kingscote 12/1
08 Jun 19+134d Newmarket Bernard Sunley Memorial Handicap Class 2 · 1m6f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 7/15 nk 9-7 10197C87A Shane Gray 33/1
25 Jan 19+48d Doncaster First Race Special On Sky Bet Tomorrow Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m½f · Good · 7 ran 4/7 8 11-4 —97A110A Robert Dunne 2/1F
2018 · 5 runs
08 Dec 18+43d Aintree Betway Heed Your Hunch Novices' Hurdle Class 3 · 2m1f · Soft · 6 ran UR/6 — 10-12 ——— Tom Scudamore 9/1
26 Oct 18+118d Doncaster Move Over To Matchbook Handicap Class 3 · 1m6½f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 1/8 10-0 94123A102A Harry Bentley 25/1
30 Jun 18+35d Newcastle (AW) Betfred Northumberland Vase Handicap (Consolation Race for The Northumberland Plate) Class 2 · 2m½f · Standard To Slow · 19 ran 17/19 2¼ 9-7 9491C76C Daniel Tudhope 4/1F
26 May 18+20d Haydock Amix Ready Mixed Concrete Handicap Class 2 · 2m · Good · 9 ran 1/9 9-2 9080A90A James Doyle 4/1
06 May 18+205d Newmarket Qatar Racing Handicap Class 2 · 1m4f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 12/15 3½ 9-1 9181C67A Silvestre De Sousa 7/1
2017 · 6 runs
13 Oct 17+48d York Unibet Handicap Class 2 · 1m6f · Good · 13 ran 8/13 2¼ 8-8 9194C78A Silvestre De Sousa 10/3F
26 Aug 17+29d York Betfred Melrose Handicap Class 2 · 1m6f · Good · 19 ran 5/19 1 8-11 91100C92A Daniel Tudhope 9/1
28 Jul 17+22d Newmarket Fly London Southend Airport To Dubrovnik Handicap Class 3 · 1m4f · Good To Soft · 4 ran 1/4 9-4 8595C94B Pat Cosgrave 11/4
06 Jul 17+41d Newbury Lillemor Penser Silver Bar Handicap Class 3 · 1m4f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 4/7 1 9-5 85110A83A Pat Cosgrave 7/1
26 May 17+23d Goodwood EBF Stallions Cocked Hat Stakes (Listed) Class 1 · 1m3f · Good · 6 ran 6/6 3¼ 9-0 8785C69C Pat Cosgrave 4/1
03 May 17 Yarmouth Mark Sumner Golf Pro Shops Of Yarmouth Maiden Stakes (Plus 10) Class 3 · 1m3½f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 1/7 9-5 —78A86A Ryan Moore 3/1

Quick answers

How many races has The Grand Visir won?
The Grand Visir (GB) won 5 of 51 archived starts between 2017 and 2024, a strike rate of 9.8%. Placed 13 times in total (25.5% of starts).
Who trained The Grand Visir?
The Grand Visir (GB) was trained by Ian Williams on the most recent run on record, at Nottingham on 6 November 2024.
Who is The Grand Visir's sire?
The Grand Visir (GB) is by Frankel (GB) out of Piping (IRE), whose sire is Montjeu.
What going does The Grand Visir prefer?
The Grand Visir (GB) has the best record on good to soft going: 3 wins from 9 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is The Grand Visir's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 76, from the run on 6 November 2024. The highest on record is 125.
What is The Grand Visir's sire's record?
Frankel (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 18% of 7,539 runs since May 2016 (882 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 12.8% from 329. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 12.2% from 270.
Who are The Grand Visir's siblings?
Out of Piping (IRE), The Grand Visir (GB) has 5 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Cisky (FR) (4). The wins came over 1m1f–1m1½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from May 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.