Horse profile
The Grand Visir (GB)
10yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2024) · Last trainer Ian Williams · Last owner Andy Bell Fergus Lyons
by Frankel (GB) out of Piping (IRE) (Montjeu)
51 runs · 20 courses · from May 2017
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 6 Nov 2024 — 729 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2024 · 4th of 10
5 wins · 5 courses
Last raced off OR 76
KTB Profile
The Grand Visir won five of 51 starts between May 2017 and Jun 2019, all on turf. Three of those wins came on good to soft going, two over 1m5f – 2m and two over 1m2f – 1m4f, with his biggest success in the Ascot Stakes, a Class 2 handicap off a mark of 100. He last ran at Nottingham in Nov 2024, finishing fourth of 10. Aged 10 at his last run in Nov 2024, he was 49lb below his highest ever mark of 125.
Based on 51 archived runs · run-style from 6 commented runs since Aug 2024 · updated 5 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance
OR ↓ 49lb off peak
- 5–51Wins / Runs
- 9.8%Strike rate
- 13 (25.5%)Placed
- +0.75£1 level staken=51 at SP
- 0.88Fair A/E n=51 · 0.77 incl. margin
- 125Highest OR
- 32dBetween runs (median)longest 371 d
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating76↓ 49lb off peak
76
76–125
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
Best recent Speed 96
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
Flat
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 5 Nov 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 13 | 135C | 97 | — |
| Good | 13 | 144C | 100 | — |
| Soft | 8 | 142A | 93.5 | — |
| Good to Soft | 7 | 123A | 95 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 3 | 91C | 84 | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 5 Nov 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 19 | 144C | 102 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 17 | 123A | 96 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 5 | 110A | 85 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 3 | 85C | 66 | — |
Jumps
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 5 Nov 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 2 | 100B | 98.5 | — |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 122B | 121 | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 5 Nov 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m5f – 3m | 3 | 122B | 120 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1 | — | — | — |
Of 50 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (2).
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 48 figures from 50 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style from 6 analysed runs since Aug 2024
- Prominent 3 (50%) · 0 wins
- Mid-division 2 (33%) · 0 wins
- Led 1 (17%) · 0 wins
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Progeny in our archive have won 18% of 7,539 runs since May 2016 (882 horses).
Weakest on heavy going: 12.8% from 329. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 12.2% from 270.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 15 | 4 | 26.7% | +8.7 | — |
| Good to Firm | 1,280 | 259 | 20.2% | +2.2 | 1 from 13 |
| Good | 1,915 | 362 | 18.9% | +0.9 | 1 from 15 |
| Good to Soft | 1,023 | 175 | 17.1% | −0.9 | 3 from 9 |
| Soft | 1,119 | 163 | 14.6% | −3.4 | 0 from 11 |
| Heavy | 329 | 42 | 12.8% | −5.2 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 1,858 | 351 | 18.9% | +0.9 | 0 from 3 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 65 | 11 | 16.9% | −1.1 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 1,265 | 236 | 18.7% | +0.7 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1,988 | 372 | 18.7% | +0.7 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 2,883 | 547 | 19% | +1 | 2 from 5 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 973 | 151 | 15.5% | −2.5 | 2 from 19 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 270 | 33 | 12.2% | −5.8 | 1 from 21 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 84 | 6 | 7.1% | −10.9 | 0 from 6 |
| Over 3m | 11 | 0 | 0% | −18 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since May 2016 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Dam
Piping (IRE) (Montjeu)
5 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Cisky (FR) (4 wins).
The wins came over 1m1f–1m1½f.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cisky (FR) | 30 | 4 | 1m1½f | — |
| Minnipa (GB) | 3 | 1 | 1m1f | — |
| Phedre (GB) | 8 | 0 | — | — |
| Inthepipe (IRE) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
| Pass The Stars (IRE) | 8 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 15 | 1 | 7% | −10.00 |
| Good to Firm | 13 | 1 | 8% | −9.00 |
| Soft | 11 | 0 | 0% | −11.00 |
| Good to Soft | 9 | 3 | 33% | +33.75 |
| Standard (AW) | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 2 | 32 | 2 | 6% | −14.00 |
| Class 3 | 7 | 3 | 43% | +26.75 |
| Class 1 | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Class 4 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Class 5 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ascot | 8 | 1 | 13% | +5.00 |
| Goodwood | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Newmarket | 5 | 1 | 20% | −1.25 |
| Chester | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Doncaster | 5 | 1 | 20% | +21.00 |
| York | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Newbury | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Pontefract | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Aintree | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Nottingham | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Kempton (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ffos Las | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sandown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Longchamp (FR) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Cheltenham | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Worcester | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Newcastle (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Haydock | 1 | 1 | 100% | +4.00 |
| Yarmouth | 1 | 1 | 100% | +3.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 21 | 1 | 5% | −8.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 19 | 2 | 11% | +12.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 5 | 2 | 40% | +2.75 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Richard Kingscote | 20 | 1 | 5% | −7.00 |
| Robert Dunne | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Jim Crowley | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Pat Cosgrave | 3 | 1 | 33% | +0.75 |
| Dougie Costello | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| James Doyle | 2 | 1 | 50% | +3.00 |
| Daniel Tudhope | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Silvestre De Sousa | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Andrew Breslin | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| David Probert | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Alberto Sanna | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Joe Fanning | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| David Egan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Luke Morris | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Charlie Todd | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| William Buick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Maxime Guyon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Shane Gray | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tom Scudamore | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Harry Bentley | 1 | 1 | 100% | +25.00 |
| Ryan Moore | 1 | 1 | 100% | +3.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tongue tie + cheekpieces | 23 | 0 | 0% | −23.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 12 | 1 | 8% | −7.00 |
| None | 6 | 3 | 50% | +27.75 |
| Tongue tie + visor | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Tongue tie | 3 | 1 | 33% | +10.00 |
| Tongue tie + blinkers | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2024 | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| 2023 | 10 | 0 | 0% | −10.00 |
| 2022 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2021 | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| 2020 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| 2019 | 6 | 1 | 17% | +7.00 |
| 2018 | 5 | 2 | 40% | +26.00 |
| 2017 | 6 | 2 | 33% | +1.75 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 45 | 5 | 11% | +6.75 |
| Hurdle | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2024 · 8 runs | ||||||||||
| 06 Nov 24+46d | Nottingham | Goodbye And Thank You Ed Player Handicap Settled just behind the leading group - asked for effort over 3f out but unable to close - kept going at an unchanged tempo to finish fourth | 4/10 | 2 | 9-12 | 76 | 96A | 82A | Richard Kingscote | 14/1 |
| 21 Sep 24+18d | Newmarket | Turners Cesarewitch Trial Handicap Handy early - driven and dropped back with 6f left - well beaten from there - finished 7th | 7/11 | 9½ | 8-2 | 79 | 108C | 65C | Andrew Breslin | 40/1 |
| 03 Sep 24+16d | Goodwood | Royal Sussex Regiment Handicap Hit front after opening furlong - opened big advantage by halfway before margin narrowed 3f from home while holding inner spot - overtaken with 2f left and dropped away fast - allowed to drop away with no prospect inside final two furlongs - well held at the finish | 6/8 | 14 | 8-11 | 81 | 102C | 65C | David Probert | 12/1 |
| 18 Aug 24+8d | Pontefract | Sky Bet Build A Bet Handicap Sat close to pace early - pushed along and closed on front-runner over 2f out - weakened approaching final furlong - finished third | 3/4 | 8 | 9-9 | 82 | 89C | 77B | Richard Kingscote | 4/1 |
| 10 Aug 24+8d | Ascot | Dubai Duty Free Shergar Cup Stayers (Handicap) Settled among the pack midfield - improved a furlong out and moved left to take third inside the last - kept on to finish third beaten three quarters of a length | 3/10 | ½ | 8-11 | 81 | 86B | 78A | Alberto Sanna | 11/1 |
| 02 Aug 24+45d | Goodwood | Coral Goodwood Handicap Settled with the pack early - nudged for effort with 2f remaining - dropped away in the last furlong - finished ninth | 9/18 | 1¾ | 8-13 | 84 | 135C | 74A | Richard Kingscote | 33/1 |
| 18 Jun 24+39d | Ascot | Ascot Stakes (Heritage Handicap) | 13/20 | nse | 8-13 | 87 | 76C | 72C | Richard Kingscote | 33/1 |
| 10 May 24+156d | Chester | Duke Of Westminster Supporting The Chester Cup (Heritage Handicap) | 9/16 | 1½ | 8-6 | 89 | 98C | 78A | Joe Fanning | 33/1 |
| 2023 · 10 runs | ||||||||||
| 06 Dec 23+53d | Kempton (AW) | Unibet London Stayers' Series (Final) Handicap | 14/14 | 17 | 9-1 | 92 | 79C | 70C | Dougie Costello | 66/1 |
| 14 Oct 23+14d | Newmarket | Club Godolphin Cesarewitch Handicap (Heritage Handicap) | 12/31 | hd | 9-0 | 93 | 91C | 81A | David Egan | 50/1 |
| 30 Sep 23+15d | Chester | Watergate Cup Handicap | 7/9 | 6½ | 9-4 | 97 | 121C | 80C | Dougie Costello | 16/1 |
| 15 Sep 23+34d | Doncaster | Betfred Doncaster Cup Stakes (Group 2) (British Champions Series) | 4/5 | ½ | 9-7 | 93 | 89C | 89B | Richard Kingscote | 66/1 |
| 12 Aug 23+8d | Ascot | Dubai Duty Free Shergar Cup Stayers (Handicap) | 3/10 | 2½ | 9-8 | 94 | 64B | 87A | Luke Morris | 11/1 |
| 04 Aug 23+13d | Goodwood | Coral Goodwood Handicap | 5/17 | 2 | 9-4 | 95 | 141C | 87A | Richard Kingscote | 20/1 |
| 22 Jul 23+28d | Newbury | Mettal UK Handicap | 9/13 | 3 | 9-11 | 97 | 103C | 82A | Richard Kingscote | 25/1 |
| 24 Jun 23+4d | Ascot | Queen Alexandra Stakes (Conditions Race) | 2/9 | ½ | 9-4 | 95 | 66A | 88A | Richard Kingscote | 9/1 |
| 20 Jun 23+39d | Ascot | Ascot Stakes (Heritage Handicap) | 8/19 | 1 | 9-7 | 95 | 72C | 83A | Richard Kingscote | 40/1 |
| 12 May 23+371d | Chester | tote Chester Cup (Heritage Handicap) | 9/16 | 2¾ | 9-1 | 97 | 90C | 81A | Richard Kingscote | 33/1 |
| 2022 · 2 runs | ||||||||||
| 06 May 22+27d | Chester | Tote+ Chester Cup Handicap | 9/14 | 1¼ | 9-4 | 101 | 87C | 87A | Jim Crowley | 18/1 |
| 09 Apr 22+153d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Betway Handicap | 6/6 | 1 | 9-8 | 102 | 84A | 91B | Richard Kingscote | 4/1 |
| 2021 · 9 runs | ||||||||||
| 07 Nov 21+14d | Ffos Las | Call Star Sports On 08000 521 321 Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) | BD/8 | — | 11-4 | 124 | — | — | Robert Dunne | 8/11F |
| 24 Oct 21+44d | Aintree | Jewson Click and Collect Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle | 5/14 | nse | 11-6 | 125 | 100B | 129A | Charlie Todd | 10/3 |
| 10 Sep 21+21d | Doncaster | Doncaster Cup Stakes (Group 2) (British Champions Series) | 6/6 | 1¼ | 9-5 | 102 | 118A | 79B | Richard Kingscote | 22/1 |
| 20 Aug 21+21d | York | Weatherbys Hamilton Lonsdale Cup Stakes (Group 2) (British Champions Series) | 3/4 | 7 | 9-3 | 102 | 100C | 87B | Richard Kingscote | 28/1 |
| 30 Jul 21+28d | Goodwood | Unibet 3 Boosts A Day Goodwood Handicap | 10/20 | hd | 9-9 | 104 | 133C | 91A | William Buick | 13/2C |
| 02 Jul 21+13d | Sandown | Coral Marathon (Listed) (Registered As The Esher Stakes) | 2/4 | 1½ | 9-0 | 104 | 102C | 93B | Richard Kingscote | 2/1 |
| 19 Jun 21+26d | Ascot | Queen Alexandra Stakes (Conditions Race) | 3/15 | ½ | 9-2 | 105 | 85C | 89A | Richard Kingscote | 17/2 |
| 24 May 21+17d | Longchamp (FR) | Prix Vicomtesse Vigier (4yo+) (Grande Course) (Turf) | 3/8 | 6 | 9-0 | — | — | — | Maxime Guyon | 51/10 |
| 07 May 21+175d | Chester | tote+ Chester Cup Handicap | 2/16 | 2 | 9-9 | 103 | 104C | 94A | Richard Kingscote | 16/1 |
| 2020 · 5 runs | ||||||||||
| 13 Nov 20+25d | Cheltenham | Ballymore Novices' Hurdle (Grade 2) (Registered As The Hyde Novices' Hurdle) (GBB Race) | 4/7 | 7½ | 11-0 | 125 | 122B | 120A | Robert Dunne | 15/2 |
| 19 Oct 20+38d | Pontefract | Phil Bull Trophy Conditions Stakes | 2/6 | 9 | 9-9 | 105 | 142A | 82B | Richard Kingscote | 6/4 |
| 11 Sep 20+44d | Doncaster | bet365 Doncaster Cup Stakes (Group 2) | 3/7 | 4 | 9-5 | 106 | 102A | 86A | Jim Crowley | 10/1 |
| 29 Jul 20+39d | Goodwood | Unibet You're On Goodwood Handicap | 4/15 | shd | 9-10 | 104 | 144C | 99A | Richard Kingscote | 14/1 |
| 20 Jun 20+241d | Ascot | Queen Alexandra Stakes (Conditions Race) | 2/9 | nk | 9-2 | 104 | 58A | 83A | Richard Kingscote | 11/4 |
| 2019 · 6 runs | ||||||||||
| 23 Oct 19+60d | Worcester | MansionBet Proud To Support British Racing Maiden Hurdle | 3/7 | 4 | 11-0 | — | 120A | 129B | Robert Dunne | 11/4 |
| 24 Aug 19+35d | York | Sky Bet Ebor Handicap | 16/22 | 1¾ | 9-2 | 105 | 93C | 73C | Jim Crowley | 50/1 |
| 20 Jul 19+32d | Newbury | Marsh Cup Handicap | 7/16 | nk | 9-8 | 105 | 115C | 91A | James Doyle | 7/1 |
| 18 Jun 19+10d | Ascot | Ascot Stakes (Handicap) | 1/19 | 9-10 | 100 | 71C | 101A | Richard Kingscote | 12/1 | |
| 08 Jun 19+134d | Newmarket | Bernard Sunley Memorial Handicap | 7/15 | nk | 9-7 | 101 | 97C | 87A | Shane Gray | 33/1 |
| 25 Jan 19+48d | Doncaster | First Race Special On Sky Bet Tomorrow Novices' Hurdle | 4/7 | 8 | 11-4 | — | 97A | 110A | Robert Dunne | 2/1F |
| 2018 · 5 runs | ||||||||||
| 08 Dec 18+43d | Aintree | Betway Heed Your Hunch Novices' Hurdle | UR/6 | — | 10-12 | — | — | — | Tom Scudamore | 9/1 |
| 26 Oct 18+118d | Doncaster | Move Over To Matchbook Handicap | 1/8 | 10-0 | 94 | 123A | 102A | Harry Bentley | 25/1 | |
| 30 Jun 18+35d | Newcastle (AW) | Betfred Northumberland Vase Handicap (Consolation Race for The Northumberland Plate) | 17/19 | 2¼ | 9-7 | 94 | 91C | 76C | Daniel Tudhope | 4/1F |
| 26 May 18+20d | Haydock | Amix Ready Mixed Concrete Handicap | 1/9 | 9-2 | 90 | 80A | 90A | James Doyle | 4/1 | |
| 06 May 18+205d | Newmarket | Qatar Racing Handicap | 12/15 | 3½ | 9-1 | 91 | 81C | 67A | Silvestre De Sousa | 7/1 |
| 2017 · 6 runs | ||||||||||
| 13 Oct 17+48d | York | Unibet Handicap | 8/13 | 2¼ | 8-8 | 91 | 94C | 78A | Silvestre De Sousa | 10/3F |
| 26 Aug 17+29d | York | Betfred Melrose Handicap | 5/19 | 1 | 8-11 | 91 | 100C | 92A | Daniel Tudhope | 9/1 |
| 28 Jul 17+22d | Newmarket | Fly London Southend Airport To Dubrovnik Handicap | 1/4 | 9-4 | 85 | 95C | 94B | Pat Cosgrave | 11/4 | |
| 06 Jul 17+41d | Newbury | Lillemor Penser Silver Bar Handicap | 4/7 | 1 | 9-5 | 85 | 110A | 83A | Pat Cosgrave | 7/1 |
| 26 May 17+23d | Goodwood | EBF Stallions Cocked Hat Stakes (Listed) | 6/6 | 3¼ | 9-0 | 87 | 85C | 69C | Pat Cosgrave | 4/1 |
| 03 May 17 | Yarmouth | Mark Sumner Golf Pro Shops Of Yarmouth Maiden Stakes (Plus 10) | 1/7 | 9-5 | — | 78A | 86A | Ryan Moore | 3/1 | |
Quick answers
- How many races has The Grand Visir won?
- The Grand Visir (GB) won 5 of 51 archived starts between 2017 and 2024, a strike rate of 9.8%. Placed 13 times in total (25.5% of starts).
- Who trained The Grand Visir?
- The Grand Visir (GB) was trained by Ian Williams on the most recent run on record, at Nottingham on 6 November 2024.
- Who is The Grand Visir's sire?
- The Grand Visir (GB) is by Frankel (GB) out of Piping (IRE), whose sire is Montjeu.
- What going does The Grand Visir prefer?
- The Grand Visir (GB) has the best record on good to soft going: 3 wins from 9 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is The Grand Visir's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 76, from the run on 6 November 2024. The highest on record is 125.
- What is The Grand Visir's sire's record?
- Frankel (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 18% of 7,539 runs since May 2016 (882 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 12.8% from 329. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 12.2% from 270.
- Who are The Grand Visir's siblings?
- Out of Piping (IRE), The Grand Visir (GB) has 5 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Cisky (FR) (4). The wins came over 1m1f–1m1½f. As at Nov 2026.