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Horse profile

Wishes Or Watches (IRE)

13yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2013) · Last trainer John Upson · Last owner The Peter Partnership
by Bravefoot (GB) out of Shadya's Amal (GB) (Shaadi)
47 runs · 22 courses · from Nov 2005
As at 6 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 1 Aug 2013 — 4,844 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2013 2 wins · Plumpton & Folkestone Last raced off OR 60
KTB Profile

Wishes Or Watches (IRE) is 2 from 47, both wins coming at Class 5 level. Hasn't won since Apr 2011. Last raced off 60, 42lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 47 archived runs · updated 6 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance All wins at Class 5 OR ↓ 42lb off peak
Official rating60↓ 42lb off peak
60 45–102

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 71B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Market Rasen, 11 Nov 2012 Official rating 60 at the last jumps run, 1 Aug 2013

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 68C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Wolverhampton (AW), 30 Oct 2007 Official rating 47 at the last flat run, 16 Dec 2007

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 32 figures · best 110C · median 76
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Soft12110C73—
Good884A74.5—
Heavy589C80—
Good to Soft591A75—
Good to Firm1———
Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m18110C79.5—
2m1f – 2m4f1484C67.5—
Flat 4 figures · best 68C · median 56.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Standard (AW)368C51—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
1m2f – 1m4f268C47.5—
1m5f – 2m1———
6f – 7f1———

Of 47 runs looked at, 11 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (11).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 36 figures from 47 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Bravefoot (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 4.8% of 248 runs since Jan 2008 (30 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm800%−4.80 from 1
Good to Firm3525.7%+0.91 from 5
Good6357.9%+3.10 from 11
Good to Soft2200%−4.80 from 8
Soft7445.4%+0.61 from 14
Heavy4412.3%−2.50 from 5
Standard (AW)200%−4.80 from 3
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m5f – 2m9655.2%+0.41 from 21
2m1f – 2m4f12175.8%+11 from 20
2m5f – 3m2700%−4.80 from 3
Over 3m400%−4.8—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Shadya's Amal (GB) (Shaadi)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Pongo Queen (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 14 1 7% +1.00
Good 11 0 0% −11.00
Good to Soft 8 0 0% −8.00
Good to Firm 5 1 20% −1.50
Heavy 5 0 0% −5.00
Standard (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 26 2 8% −7.50
Class 4 12 0 0% −12.00
Class 6 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 7 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Fontwell 8 0 0% −8.00
Plumpton 4 1 25% −0.50
Fakenham 4 0 0% −4.00
Market Rasen 3 0 0% −3.00
Huntingdon 2 0 0% −2.00
Chepstow 2 0 0% −2.00
Bangor-on-Dee 2 0 0% −2.00
Southwell 2 0 0% −2.00
Folkestone 2 1 50% +13.00
Hereford 2 0 0% −2.00
Warwick 2 0 0% −2.00
Wincanton 2 0 0% −2.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Wexford 2 0 0% −2.00
Stratford 1 0 0% −1.00
Lingfield 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00
Clonmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 21 1 5% −6.00
2m1f – 2m4f 20 1 5% −16.50
2m5f – 3m 3 0 0% −3.00
1m2f – 1m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
6f – 7f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Gavin Sheehan 6 0 0% −6.00
Anthony Freeman 6 1 17% +9.00
Willie McCarthy 5 0 0% −5.00
Sam Twiston-Davies 4 0 0% −4.00
Charlie Poste 4 0 0% −4.00
Mr S M O'Donovan 2 1 50% +1.50
Robert L Butler 2 0 0% −2.00
Henry Oliver 2 0 0% −2.00
Tom Molloy 2 0 0% −2.00
Paul N O'Brien 1 0 0% −1.00
Thomas Garner 1 0 0% −1.00
Ed Cookson 1 0 0% −1.00
Peter Toole 1 0 0% −1.00
Jamie Goldstein 1 0 0% −1.00
Tjade Collier 1 0 0% −1.00
Liam Keniry 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr R P Quinn 1 0 0% −1.00
Jamie Spencer 1 0 0% −1.00
George Baker 1 0 0% −1.00
Johnny Murtagh 1 0 0% −1.00
Davy Russell 1 0 0% −1.00
Michael Darcy 1 0 0% −1.00
Martin Ferris 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 46 2 4% −27.50
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2013 2 0 0% −2.00
2012 6 0 0% −6.00
2011 7 1 14% −3.50
2010 7 1 14% +8.00
2009 8 0 0% −8.00
2008 7 0 0% −7.00
2007 4 0 0% −4.00
2006 3 0 0% −3.00
2005 3 0 0% −3.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 29 2 7% −10.50
Hurdle 14 0 0% −14.00
Flat 4 0 0% −4.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2013 · 2 runs
01 Aug 13+25d Stratford John Dunbar Memorial Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m6½f · Good To Firm · 11 ran PU/11 — 9-9 60— Gavin Sheehan 80/1
07 Jul 13+202d Market Rasen Manny Bernstein Freephone 0800 821821 Handicap Chase Class 4 · 2m1f · Good To Firm · 11 ran PU/11 — 9-7 60— Paul N O'Brien 150/1
2012 · 6 runs
17 Dec 12+36d Plumpton J H Builders Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m3½f · Heavy · 3 ran 3/3 58 9-9 6251C Gavin Sheehan 12/1
11 Nov 12+7d Market Rasen Get Married At Market Rasen Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m3f · Good · 6 ran 4/6 1¼ 9-7 6271B Gavin Sheehan 33/1
04 Nov 12+242d Huntingdon Macer Gifford Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m½f · Soft · 4 ran 4/4 nk 9-7 6269C Gavin Sheehan 10/1
07 Mar 12+11d Fontwell Read Nicholls And Mccain On Betfair Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m1½f · Soft · 5 ran 5/5 25 9-7 6546C Gavin Sheehan 25/1
25 Feb 12+40d Chepstow Smith & Williamson Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m · Soft · 8 ran 5/8 3¾ 9-7 6555C Thomas Garner 16/1
16 Jan 12+28d Plumpton Race Passes At timeform.com Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m1f · Good To Soft · 5 ran 5/5 27 9-7 6745C Gavin Sheehan 16/1
2011 · 7 runs
19 Dec 11+216d Bangor-on-Dee dieselpriceguarantee.com Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m1½f · Soft · 4 ran 4/4 63 9-13 6964C Ed Cookson 8/1
17 May 11+22d Southwell Tickets southwell-racecourse.co.uk Handicap Chase (Div 1) Class 5 · 2m4½f · Good · 11 ran PU/11 — 10-6 70— Mr S M O'Donovan 16/1
25 Apr 11+54d Plumpton Harry And Betty Savill Memorial Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m1f · Good To Firm · 3 ran 1/3 10-3 6484C Mr S M O'Donovan 5/2
02 Mar 11+33d Folkestone Wood-mizer Thin Kerf Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m · Soft · 5 ran PU/5 — 9-11 66— Anthony Freeman 11/2
28 Jan 11+11d Fontwell Chancelloroftheformchecker.co.uk Champion Jockey Of Fontwell Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m1½f · Good To Soft · 10 ran PU/10 — 9-11 64— Peter Toole 6/1
17 Jan 11+12d Plumpton Open A Star Sports Account On 08000 521321 Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m1f · Heavy · 6 ran 2/6 1¾ 9-11 6480B Sam Twiston-Davies 10/1
05 Jan 11+50d Southwell Happy New Year From Star Sports Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 1m7½f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 5/7 32 9-11 6647C Sam Twiston-Davies 12/1
2010 · 7 runs
16 Nov 10+11d Fakenham Hd Clinical Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m½f · Good To Soft · 7 ran F/7 — 10-7 66— Sam Twiston-Davies 8/1
05 Nov 10+185d Fontwell Best Odds Guaranteed At ladbrokes.com Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m1½f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 4/7 1 9-11 6675B Sam Twiston-Davies 12/1
04 May 10+12d Fakenham Totepool Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m5f · Good To Firm · 10 ran PU/10 — 9-12 69— Anthony Freeman 20/1
22 Apr 10+22d Fontwell 3663 First For Food Service Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m1½f · Good · 9 ran 4/9 15 10-7 7069C Jamie Goldstein 7/1
31 Mar 10+28d Hereford Lindley Catering Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m3f · Soft · 11 ran UR/11 — 10-8 70— Anthony Freeman 8/1
03 Mar 10+24d Folkestone ladbrokesbingo.com Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m · Soft · 7 ran 1/7 9-7 5981B Anthony Freeman 14/1
07 Feb 10+61d Fontwell Horner And Jones 50th Birthday Celebration Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m3f · Soft · 7 ran 5/7 17 10-0 6257C Charlie Poste 12/1
2009 · 8 runs
08 Dec 09+27d Fontwell Wellpool Building And Maintenance Services Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m3f · Soft · 13 ran 8/13 10 9-10 6666C Anthony Freeman 28/1
11 Nov 09+10d Warwick Frank Brady Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m3f · Good · 16 ran 10/16 9 10-0 7465C Charlie Poste 100/1
01 Nov 09+168d Huntingdon Derek Farmer 60th Birthday Memorial Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m4f · Good · 14 ran PU/14 — 10-4 68— Charlie Poste 20/1
17 May 09+22d Fakenham Light Dragoons Handicap Chase Class 4 · 2m5f · Good To Firm · 8 ran PU/8 — 9-7 68— Anthony Freeman 11/2
25 Apr 09+40d Market Rasen Racing UK Live In Your Home Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 2m3f · Good · 9 ran 3/9 11 10-0 6880A Willie McCarthy 9/1
16 Mar 09+11d Hereford paddypower.com Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m · Good · 11 ran 5/11 ¾ 10-10 6874A Willie McCarthy 13/2
05 Mar 09+48d Lingfield Three Bridges Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m · Soft · 8 ran 3/8 1¾ 10-9 7486B Willie McCarthy 12/1
16 Jan 09+51d Chepstow Jenkinsons Caterers 1st choice For Hospitality Conditionals' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m · Heavy · 11 ran 5/11 3 10-11 7971A Willie McCarthy 14/1
2008 · 7 runs
26 Nov 08+14d Kempton Coolmore NH Sires Mahler Conditionals' Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Good · 18 ran 11/18 1 10-9 8275A Willie McCarthy 33/1
12 Nov 08+19d Bangor-on-Dee Anwyl Homes Charity Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m½f · Soft · 8 ran 5/8 5 11-0 8577A Tjade Collier 15/2
24 Oct 08+15d Fakenham Travis Perkins Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Good · 15 ran 6/15 ½ 10-6 8884A Robert L Butler 16/1
09 Oct 08+182d Wincanton Grolsch Blond Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 1m7½f · Good To Soft · 17 ran 8/17 3¾ 11-3 9091A Robert L Butler 50/1
10 Apr 08+25d Fontwell Leighton Aspell Fan Club Handicap Chase Class 4 · 2m1½f · Good · 11 ran F/11 — 10-6 90— Henry Oliver 28/1
16 Mar 08+23d Fontwell onlyproperty.co.uk Invest In Greece Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m1½f · Heavy · 5 ran 3/5 27 11-3 9380C Henry Oliver 14/1
22 Feb 08+68d Warwick Warwick Racecourse For Conferences Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Good · 19 ran 16/19 5 11-2 9678A Charlie Poste 40/1
2007 · 4 runs
16 Dec 07+24d Kempton (AW) Open An Account With betbrokers.com Handicap Class 6 · 1m4f · Standard · 12 ran 12/12 1¾ 8-11 4727C Liam Keniry 12/1
22 Nov 07+17d Wincanton Racing Post 'Hands And Heels' Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 1m7½f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 6/11 5 11-7 9877C Mr R P Quinn 9/1
05 Nov 07+6d Wolverhampton (AW) We've Got The Ashes at centrebet.com Handicap Class 6 · 1m6f · Standard · 12 ran 4/12 1 8-11 4551C Jamie Spencer 8/1
30 Oct 07+508d Wolverhampton (AW) SP Plus Plus at centrebet.com Classified Stakes Class 7 · 1m4f · Standard · 12 ran 2/12 1¼ 9-5 4568C George Baker 9/2
2006 · 3 runs
09 Jun 06+27d Wexford Riverside Park Hotel Handicap Hurdle (74-109) 2m · Firm · 16 ran 4/16 2 10-10 96109C Tom Molloy 12/1
13 May 06+98d Limerick (IRE) Regional Handicap 7f · Good To Yielding · 16 ran 5/16 nk 9-5 5062C Johnny Murtagh 8/1
04 Feb 06+59d Fairyhouse Evening Meetings At Fairyhouse Handicap Hurdle (74-102) 2m · Yielding · 25 ran 8/25 ½ 11-7 97110C Davy Russell 10/1
2005 · 3 runs
07 Dec 05+11d Clonmel Cahir Maiden Hurdle 2m · Heavy · 18 ran 4/18 14 11-1 10089C Michael Darcy 4/1
26 Nov 05+8d Gowran Park Golf Membership Maiden Hurdle 2m · Yielding · 20 ran 5/20 10 11-2 10282C Martin Ferris 14/1
18 Nov 05 Wexford Slaney Horse Feed Maiden Hurdle 2m · Soft · 16 ran 3/16 1½ 11-5 —82C Tom Molloy 33/1

Quick answers

How many races has Wishes Or Watches won?
Wishes Or Watches (IRE) won 2 of 47 archived starts between 2005 and 2013, a strike rate of 4.3%. Placed 8 times in total (17% of starts).
Who trained Wishes Or Watches?
Wishes Or Watches (IRE) was trained by John Upson on the most recent run on record, at Stratford on 1 August 2013.
Who is Wishes Or Watches's sire?
Wishes Or Watches (IRE) is by Bravefoot (GB) out of Shadya's Amal (GB), whose sire is Shaadi.
What going does Wishes Or Watches prefer?
Wishes Or Watches (IRE) has the best record on good to firm going: 1 win from 5 starts (20%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Wishes Or Watches's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 60, from the run on 1 August 2013. The highest on record is 102.
What is Wishes Or Watches's sire's record?
Bravefoot (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 4.8% of 248 runs since Jan 2008 (30 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Wishes Or Watches's siblings?
Out of Shadya's Amal (GB), Wishes Or Watches (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from November 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.