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Best Not Argue (IRE)

8yo mare (at last run, Oct 2020) · Last trainer Noel C Kelly · Last owner Mrs Shauna Kelly
by Acclamation (GB) out of Laurentina (GB) (Cadeaux Genereux)
39 runs · 21 courses · from Apr 2015
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 23 Oct 2020 — 2,202 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2020 · 5th of 11 4 wins · Gowran Park, Roscommon & Galway Last raced off OR 85
KTB Profile

Best Not Argue (IRE) is 4 from 39. Hasn't won since Sep 2018. Last raced off 85, 24lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 39 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 24lb off peak
Official rating85↓ 24lb off peak
85 50–109

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 88 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Sligo, 23 Oct 2020

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 9 figures · best 112C · median 73
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Soft688B65.5—
Good2112C68.5—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m6112C65.5—
2m1f – 2m4f388B73—
Flat 19 figures · best 113C · median 73
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Soft9113C79—
Heavy7106C72—
Good294C68—
Standard (AW)1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
1m – 1m1f12113C75—
6f – 7f494C60—
1m2f – 1m4f380C79—

Of 31 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (1) · did not complete (1) · not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 28 figures from 31 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 84A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Sligo, 23 Oct 2020 Official rating 85 at the last jumps run, 23 Oct 2020

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 88A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Galway, 29 Oct 2018 Official rating 76 at the last flat run, 26 Jun 2020

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 11 figures · best 108A · median 89
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Soft7108A91—
Good289C88.5—
Heavy1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m7108A89—
2m1f – 2m4f4104A95.5—
Flat 27 figures · best 104A · median 67
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Soft14104A76.5—
Heavy8104A61.5—
Good289A70.5—
Standard (AW)259A51.5—
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
1m – 1m1f16104A73—
6f – 7f889A66—
1m2f – 1m4f366C53—

Of 39 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 38 figures from 39 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Acclamation (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 10% of 19,709 runs since Jan 2008 (1,327 horses).

Strongest on firm going: 15.2% from 151. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 6.7% from 195.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1512315.2%+5.2—
Good to Firm3,91744611.4%+1.40 from 1
Good4,4104009.1%−0.91 from 4
Good to Soft1,95221411%+10 from 1
Soft2,1341848.6%−1.42 from 22
Heavy563468.2%−1.81 from 9
Standard (AW)6,58166310.1%+0.10 from 2
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f3,75940910.9%+0.9—
6f – 7f10,5091,07810.3%+0.32 from 8
1m – 1m1f3,5113319.4%−0.62 from 16
1m2f – 1m4f1,2111068.8%−1.20 from 3
1m5f – 2m482377.7%−2.30 from 7
2m1f – 2m4f195136.7%−3.30 from 4
2m5f – 3m4224.8%−5.20 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Laurentina (GB) (Cadeaux Genereux)

4 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Flaming Moon (IRE) (3 wins).

The wins came over 5½f–2m½f; the highest grade won is Listed (Flaming Moon (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Flaming Moon (IRE)3335½f–2m½fListed
Justice Smart (IRE)511mClass 4
Cuala Bula (IRE)160——
Dangerous Ground (IRE)50——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 22 2 9% −9.50
Heavy 9 1 11% −6.00
Good 4 1 25% +3.00
Standard (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Gowran Park 6 2 33% +4.50
Cork 4 0 0% −4.00
Galway 3 1 33% +2.00
Tipperary 3 0 0% −3.00
Kilbeggan 2 0 0% −2.00
Fairyhouse 2 0 0% −2.00
Down Royal 2 0 0% −2.00
Dundalk (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Roscommon 2 1 50% +5.00
Killarney 2 0 0% −2.00
Sligo 1 0 0% −1.00
Curragh 1 0 0% −1.00
Thurles 1 0 0% −1.00
Stratford 1 0 0% −1.00
Cartmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Naas 1 0 0% −1.00
Clonmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00
Listowel 1 0 0% −1.00
Leopardstown (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Leopardstown 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m – 1m1f 16 2 13% −5.50
6f – 7f 8 2 25% +4.00
1m5f – 2m 7 0 0% −7.00
2m1f – 2m4f 4 0 0% −4.00
1m2f – 1m4f 3 0 0% −3.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Conor Orr 4 0 0% −4.00
Shane Foley 4 0 0% −4.00
Colin Keane 4 2 50% +8.50
Jody McGarvey 3 0 0% −3.00
Donnacha O'Brien 3 2 67% +7.00
Seamie Heffernan 3 0 0% −3.00
Adam Short 2 0 0% −2.00
Shane Crosse 2 0 0% −2.00
Mikey O'Sullivan 2 0 0% −2.00
Simon Torrens 1 0 0% −1.00
Luke McAteer 1 0 0% −1.00
Connor Brace 1 0 0% −1.00
Oisin Orr 1 0 0% −1.00
J J Slevin 1 0 0% −1.00
Tom Madden 1 0 0% −1.00
Danny Sheehy 1 0 0% −1.00
Nathan Crosse 1 0 0% −1.00
Andrew Breslin 1 0 0% −1.00
N G McCullagh 1 0 0% −1.00
Killian Leonard 1 0 0% −1.00
Jason Conneely 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 33 3 9% −17.50
Cheekpieces 3 0 0% −3.00
Tongue tie 2 0 0% −2.00
Hood 1 1 100% +6.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2020 3 0 0% −3.00
2019 11 0 0% −11.00
2018 5 2 40% +5.00
2017 10 0 0% −10.00
2016 5 1 20% +2.50
2015 5 1 20% +0.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 27 4 15% −4.50
Hurdle 12 0 0% −12.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2020 · 3 runs
23 Oct 20+42d Sligo Garvogue River Mares Handicap Hurdle (80-102) 2m1½f · Yielding · 11 ran 5/11 ¾ 10-6 8588B84A Simon Torrens 66/1
11 Sep 20+77d Kilbeggan Bloomfield House Hotel Handicap Hurdle (80-95) (Div 2) 2m · Yielding · 12 ran 11/12 40 11-3 89-21C73C Conor Orr 80/1
26 Jun 20+195d Curragh Extra.ie Apprentice Derby 1m4f · Good · 18 ran 18/18 18 9-8 7642C52C Luke McAteer 250/1
2019 · 11 runs
14 Dec 19+16d Fairyhouse Fairyhouse Members 2020 Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 2m · Heavy · 12 ran 11/12 6 10-7 93—72C Adam Short 50/1
28 Nov 19+27d Thurles Templemore Handicap Hurdle (80-102) 2m · Soft · 17 ran 10/17 1½ 11-3 9685C93C Adam Short 50/1
01 Nov 19+20d Down Royal Allianz Handicap Hurdle (80-102) 3m · Yielding To Soft · 20 ran PU/20 — 11-9 99—— Jody McGarvey 50/1
12 Oct 19+35d Fairyhouse Fairyhouse For Fundraisers Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 2m · Yielding To Soft · 16 ran 16/16 6½ 11-5 10241C91C Jody McGarvey 33/1
07 Sep 19+47d Stratford Happy Birthday Andrew Fox Conditional Jockeys' Selling Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 2m2½f · Good · 6 ran 5/6 70 10-7 10925C88C Connor Brace 5/1
22 Jul 19+31d Cartmel Every Race Live On Racing Tv Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 2m1f · Soft · 11 ran 2/11 nk 10-4 109—104A Conor Orr 7/2
21 Jun 19+19d Down Royal Armatas Fire & Security Ltd. Maiden Hurdle 2m½f · Yielding · 19 ran 12/19 1 11-0 —54B81A Conor Orr 25/1
02 Jun 19+98d Kilbeggan Bloomfield House Hotel Mares Hurdle 2m2½f · Good To Yielding · 8 ran 5/8 1 11-2 —73B103A Jody McGarvey 40/1
24 Feb 19+16d Naas Naas Rugby Club Maiden Hurdle 2m · Good · 23 ran 11/23 2¼ 11-0 —112C89C Conor Orr 100/1
08 Feb 19+29d Dundalk (AW) 666 Roulette At Ace Casino Kildare Town Claiming Race 7f · Standard · 10 ran 10/10 4¾ 8-12 8144C44C Oisin Orr 10/1
10 Jan 19+73d Clonmel Kilsheelan Mares Maiden Hurdle 2m½f · Yielding · 18 ran 8/18 nse 11-7 —77B108A J J Slevin 11/1
2018 · 5 runs
29 Oct 18+6d Galway Kone Handicap 1m½f · Soft · 10 ran 3/10 hd 9-1 79109A88A Donnacha O'Brien 5/2F
23 Oct 18+9d Gowran Park Irish Stallion Farms EBF Fillies Handicap 1m1½f · Yielding · 15 ran 3/15 hd 8-4 75113C96A Shane Crosse 5/2F
14 Oct 18+22d Navan New Troytown Bar Apprentice Handicap 1m · Yielding · 15 ran 2/15 ½ 9-4 7277C101A Shane Crosse 2/1F
22 Sep 18+19d Gowran Park Jumps Racing Returns To Gowran Park October 5th Handicap (45-65) (Div 1) 1m · Heavy · 16 ran 1/16 9-12 59106C104A Donnacha O'Brien 2/1F
03 Sep 18+324d Roscommon Alice Farrell Memorial Handicap (45-65) (Div 1) 7f · Good · 15 ran 1/15 9-0 5094C89A Donnacha O'Brien 6/1
2017 · 10 runs
14 Oct 17+18d Cork Savills Supporting The Rickie Healy Appeal Apprentice Handicap (45-65) 1m½f · Soft · 18 ran 3/18 ¾ 9-4 5571C82A Tom Madden 20/1
26 Sep 17+12d Tipperary Racing Again October 1st Handicap (45-65) 1m1f · Soft To Heavy · 15 ran 11/15 3¾ 9-10 5872C49C Shane Foley 14/1
14 Sep 17+17d Listowel Byrne Family Handicap 1m · Heavy · 14 ran 4/14 2¼ 9-5 6062C67A Shane Foley 16/1
28 Aug 17+5d Roscommon Sean Cleary Memorial Handicap (45-70) 1m4f · Heavy · 14 ran 7/14 9½ 9-10 6380C66C Shane Foley 16/1
23 Aug 17+7d Killarney Easy Clean Limited Handicap 1m3f · Soft · 7 ran 5/7 ¾ 7-11 6379A53A Danny Sheehy 8/1
16 Aug 17+25d Gowran Park Golf Membership At Gowran Park For 2018 Apprentice Handicap (45-65) 1m1½f · Soft · 17 ran 4/17 1½ 9-10 6471C80A Nathan Crosse 12/1
22 Jul 17+47d Gowran Park Like Gowran Park On Facebook Handicap (50-80) 1m1½f · Yielding · 13 ran 5/13 1¾ 9-1 6689C69A Seamie Heffernan 10/1
05 Jun 17+55d Gowran Park Festival Of Speed July 16th Handicap 1m1½f · Soft To Heavy · 17 ran 14/17 5½ 9-3 6954C57C Seamie Heffernan 12/1
11 Apr 17+9d Tipperary TipperaryRaces.ie Handicap (Div 1) 7½f · Soft · 9 ran 5/9 2 9-3 6960A72A Mikey O'Sullivan 16/1
02 Apr 17+161d Cork Follow Us On Twitter Apprentice Handicap 1m½f · Heavy · 18 ran 14/18 2½ 8-7 7073C52C Mikey O'Sullivan 25/1
2016 · 5 runs
23 Oct 16+21d Leopardstown (IRE) Leopardstown Christmas Festival Handicap 1m · Yielding · 13 ran 10/13 2 8-1 7584C55A Andrew Breslin 33/1
02 Oct 16+105d Tipperary Thetote.com Handicap (60-100) 7½f · Soft To Heavy · 13 ran 9/13 1 8-4 7560C65A N G McCullagh 20/1
19 Jun 16+7d Gowran Park Gowran Park Golf Club Societies Welcome Handicap (45-65) (Div 1) 1m · Soft · 15 ran 1/15 9-11 62—104A Colin Keane 13/2F
12 Jun 16+67d Cork Coral.ie Money Back If Your Horse Is Beaten By A Length Handicap (45-65) (Div 2) 1m½f · Yielding To Soft · 13 ran 8/13 3½ 10-0 65—67A Shane Foley 8/1
06 Apr 16+180d Leopardstown 'colours Bar' Handicap (47-75) 1m · Heavy · 15 ran 10/15 shd 9-6 66—58C Colin Keane 7/1
2015 · 5 runs
09 Oct 15+32d Dundalk (AW) Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Fillies Handicap (60-100) 7f · Standard · 9 ran 6/9 1¼ 7-8 71—59A Killian Leonard 7/1
07 Sep 15+41d Galway James P. Cunningham Electrical Handicap 7f · Yielding · 7 ran 1/7 9-1 67—76A Colin Keane 4/1
28 Jul 15+14d Galway Caulfieldindustrial.com E.B.F. Maiden 7f · Yielding · 14 ran 4/14 2¾ 8-4 ——67A Jason Conneely 25/1
14 Jul 15+85d Killarney Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Maiden 1m½f · Yielding To Soft · 15 ran 4/15 1½ 9-0 ——77A Colin Keane 33/1
20 Apr 15 Cork Ticket Sales Online At corkracecourse.ie Maiden 7f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 8/13 2 9-0 ——54A Seamie Heffernan 33/1

Quick answers

How many races has Best Not Argue won?
Best Not Argue (IRE) won 4 of 39 archived starts between 2015 and 2020, a strike rate of 10.3%. Placed 10 times in total (25.6% of starts).
Who trained Best Not Argue?
Best Not Argue (IRE) was trained by Noel C Kelly on the most recent run on record, at Sligo on 23 October 2020.
Who is Best Not Argue's sire?
Best Not Argue (IRE) is by Acclamation (GB) out of Laurentina (GB), whose sire is Cadeaux Genereux.
What going does Best Not Argue prefer?
Best Not Argue (IRE) has the best record on good going: 1 win from 4 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Best Not Argue's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 85, from the run on 23 October 2020. The highest on record is 109.
What is Best Not Argue's sire's record?
Acclamation (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10% of 19,709 runs since Jan 2008 (1,327 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on firm going: 15.2% from 151. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 6.7% from 195.
Who are Best Not Argue's siblings?
Out of Laurentina (GB), Best Not Argue (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Flaming Moon (IRE) (3). Highest grade won: Listed (Flaming Moon (IRE)). The wins came over 5½f–2m½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from April 2015. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.